On 10/28/16 5:56 AM, william degnan wrote: Yep. Our new website is going through some teething problems. Until they're resolved, use: http://www.livingcomputers.org/Join/Online-Systems/ContraltoSetup.aspx <https://mail.vulcan.com/owa/redir.aspx?C=zDjrHPRZbJW_iYBHBE6hxlLP0MVa7eQPnMcovYMFBZkfQxyQT__TCA..&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.livingcomputers.org%2fJoin%2fOnline-Systems%2fContraltoSetup.aspx> To download the emulator. Thanks, Josh

-----Original Message----- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Josh Dersch Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 2:13 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: RE: ContrAlto V1.1 Released OK, one more time with feeling, because apparently when I pasted that link it added a bunch of garbage (thanks, Outlook Web Access!). If you want to get ContrAlto, the actual, real, working link is: http://www.livingcomputers.org/Join/Online-Systems/ContraltoSetup.aspx Sorry for the confusion and/or stupidity on my part... - Josh ----- Thanks Josh; it's a wonderful contribution. I remember a database being written for the Alto; it used the relational model. I believe that it was related to INGRES, but I have only a hazy recollection and can't remember the name -- although I would likely recognize it anyone else has further information. We used it along with a graphical post-processor to prepare office-assignment floor-plans at CMU in the early 80's. My recollection is that the principal uses for the CMU Altos at that time were as PostScript-based printer-drivers ("Dover" and "Calais" were our name-assignments). Our use in space-planning was a quirk, and possibly the last remaining regular use of the few remaining machines. I definitely don't remember any machine-time contention; I believe that there were two available for general-use. I just brought along my disk-pack and would boot and have-at-it. Never thought about it all becoming (near) ancient history ... paul