I really meant SGI 4D/310 VGX. It turns out the machines I picked up at gummint auction from NASA Langley were better than I thought! Thanks to some help form fellow local cctalk'er Tim Riker, I was able to move these from a neighbouring business to the warehouse. For some stupid reason Estes freight delivered them there instead of calling me and leaving me a voicemail message. After they delivered them to the wrong place they never bothered to call me and tell me about it. Grrr. Anyway, these look like nice systems. They are in good cosmetic shape too. Now I need to find some power cords, disk drives and IRIX media for them and get them up and running again. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>