2 Feb
2014
2 Feb
'14
11:17 p.m.
Unfortunate that the seller would jump to a cancellation so quickly, but
sellers are only obligated to abide by the terms of their ad, and of
course, ebay's policies.
They are not obligated to do combined shipment. You can ask for
combined if a combined policy is not stated in the ad, but be willing to
accept a "no." I've had many sellers never answer my own requests for
combined, so after waiting a few days for a reply, I just went ahead and
paid "as purchased."
The seller in question is just on of those overly anal a-holes one
encounters on ebay every so often... but it is within his rights to
insist upon "pay as invoiced."
- jWs
On 2/2/14 6:47 PM, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
Subject:
beware of "andananautions"
From:
Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org>
Date:
2/2/14 1:40 PM
To:
General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wow
won some manuals cheap, then sent a message to see if they would
combine shipping.
the seller canceled all of the auctions, and apparently there is no
recourse from the buyer.
read his reply for yourself.
this is the first time in 5000+ ebay deals that someone backed out
after asking for combined shipping.
beware..
his 'justification'
Dear al_kossow,
1. You won several items yesterday.
2. I sent you an invoice for the total amount.
3. You emailed your disagreement over the terms of your purchase.
4. Therefore, we do not agree over the terms of the transaction.
4. So I filed the appropriate request to cancel the transaction with
ebay.
Now, you have suddenly changed your mind and claim that your purchase
was a "Binding Contract"?
Sounds like you want your cake and eat it, too.
First, you engage in feedback extortion to try coerce me to lower the
purchase price.
Then, when you did not get your way, you attempt to compel me to go
through with the transaction.
Unfortunately, when you expressed your disagreement over the terms of
the sale, it was obvious that there was no meeting of the minds in
this transaction. As such, there is no contract. We both agreed to
cancel the transaction and that is ok. I am sorry you were
disappointed in the terms. I have refunded your paypal payment. You
are whole.
I am just curious as to where else you can buy something and then
negotiate the terms of the transaction.
After you have filled up your gas tank, do you then ask the gas
station for a discount?
2 Feb
2 Feb
11:53 p.m.
They all engage in some inflation of costs to make extra money. The
sensitivity is due to a lot of them being shut down for egregious
violations of that sort last year.
3
On 2/2/2014 3:17 PM, js at cimmeri.com wrote:
Unfortunate that the seller would jump to a cancellation so quickly,
but sellers are only obligated to abide by the terms of their ad, and
of course, ebay's policies.
They are not obligated to do combined shipment. You can ask for
combined if a combined policy is not stated in the ad, but be willing
to accept a "no." I've had many sellers never answer my own
requests for combined, so after waiting a few days for a reply, I just
went ahead and paid "as purchased."
The seller in question is just on of those overly anal a-holes one
encounters on ebay every so often... but it is within his rights to
insist upon "pay as invoiced."
- jWs
On 2/2/14 6:47 PM, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
Subject:
beware of "andananautions"
From:
Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org>
Date:
2/2/14 1:40 PM
To:
General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wow
won some manuals cheap, then sent a message to see if they would
combine shipping.
the seller canceled all of the auctions, and apparently there is no
recourse from the buyer.
read his reply for yourself.
this is the first time in 5000+ ebay deals that someone backed out
after asking for combined shipping.
beware..
his 'justification'
Dear al_kossow,
1. You won several items yesterday.
2. I sent you an invoice for the total amount.
3. You emailed your disagreement over the terms of your purchase.
4. Therefore, we do not agree over the terms of the transaction.
4. So I filed the appropriate request to cancel the transaction with
ebay.
Now, you have suddenly changed your mind and claim that your purchase
was a "Binding Contract"?
Sounds like you want your cake and eat it, too.
First, you engage in feedback extortion to try coerce me to lower the
purchase price.
Then, when you did not get your way, you attempt to compel me to go
through with the transaction.
Unfortunately, when you expressed your disagreement over the terms of
the sale, it was obvious that there was no meeting of the minds in
this transaction. As such, there is no contract. We both agreed to
cancel the transaction and that is ok. I am sorry you were
disappointed in the terms. I have refunded your paypal payment. You
are whole.
I am just curious as to where else you can buy something and then
negotiate the terms of the transaction.
After you have filled up your gas tank, do you then ask the gas
station for a discount?
11:54 p.m.
They all engage in some inflation of costs to make extra money. The
sensitivity is due to a lot of them being shut down for egregious
violations of that sort last year.
1
On 2/2/2014 3:17 PM, js at cimmeri.com wrote:
Unfortunate that the seller would jump to a cancellation so quickly,
but sellers are only obligated to abide by the terms of their ad, and
of course, ebay's policies.
They are not obligated to do combined shipment. You can ask for
combined if a combined policy is not stated in the ad, but be willing
to accept a "no." I've had many sellers never answer my own
requests for combined, so after waiting a few days for a reply, I just
went ahead and paid "as purchased."
The seller in question is just on of those overly anal a-holes one
encounters on ebay every so often... but it is within his rights to
insist upon "pay as invoiced."
- jWs
On 2/2/14 6:47 PM, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
Subject:
beware of "andananautions"
From:
Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org>
Date:
2/2/14 1:40 PM
To:
General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wow
won some manuals cheap, then sent a message to see if they would
combine shipping.
the seller canceled all of the auctions, and apparently there is no
recourse from the buyer.
read his reply for yourself.
this is the first time in 5000+ ebay deals that someone backed out
after asking for combined shipping.
beware..
his 'justification'
Dear al_kossow,
1. You won several items yesterday.
2. I sent you an invoice for the total amount.
3. You emailed your disagreement over the terms of your purchase.
4. Therefore, we do not agree over the terms of the transaction.
4. So I filed the appropriate request to cancel the transaction with
ebay.
Now, you have suddenly changed your mind and claim that your purchase
was a "Binding Contract"?
Sounds like you want your cake and eat it, too.
First, you engage in feedback extortion to try coerce me to lower the
purchase price.
Then, when you did not get your way, you attempt to compel me to go
through with the transaction.
Unfortunately, when you expressed your disagreement over the terms of
the sale, it was obvious that there was no meeting of the minds in
this transaction. As such, there is no contract. We both agreed to
cancel the transaction and that is ok. I am sorry you were
disappointed in the terms. I have refunded your paypal payment. You
are whole.
I am just curious as to where else you can buy something and then
negotiate the terms of the transaction.
After you have filled up your gas tank, do you then ask the gas
station for a discount?
3 Feb
3 Feb
2:13 a.m.
On Sun, 2 Feb 2014, js at cimmeri.com wrote:
The seller in question is just on of those overly anal
a-holes one
encounters on ebay every so often... but it is within his rights to
insist upon "pay as invoiced."
. . . or to make the "combined shipping" of two $5 shippings be $10, or
$9.99 as a token discount.
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