30 Jan
2004
30 Jan
'04
3:04 a.m.
Nowhere near 10 years old, but ClassicCmp is the place most likely to
know....
A surplus barn here is getting a huge lot of factory refurb Hakko 939
solder stations. He says he'll be getting $150 for them, with a 90-day
warranty from Hakko. He has one as a sample from his supplier, and it
looks NIB.
That unit is much more sophisticated than I really need. I convert
serial & graphics cables for my toys, touch up the odd dry joint or
scratched-out trace, chase fire ants, and hack potentially lethal PSUs
into my print servers. (Yeah, I had to go there) However, even a
decent used setup that'll behave nicely for what I do is going to run
me $100, so I'd rather splurge a little than inherit somebody else's
scorch marks.
Back to the point, has anyone on-list used Hakko gear? Like it, or
not?
Or does anybody have a recommendation for a better deal in the
$100-150 range?
Doc
30 Jan
30 Jan
7:38 a.m.
Doc Shipley wrote:
Nowhere near 10 years old, but ClassicCmp is the
place most likely
to know....
A surplus barn here is getting a huge lot of factory refurb Hakko
939 solder stations. He says he'll be getting $150 for them, with a
90-day warranty from Hakko. He has one as a sample from his supplier,
and it looks NIB.
That unit is much more sophisticated than I really need. I convert
serial & graphics cables for my toys, touch up the odd dry joint or
scratched-out trace, chase fire ants, and hack potentially lethal PSUs
into my print servers. (Yeah, I had to go there) However, even a
decent used setup that'll behave nicely for what I do is going to run
me $100, so I'd rather splurge a little than inherit somebody else's
scorch marks.
Back to the point, has anyone on-list used Hakko gear? Like it, or
not?
Or does anybody have a recommendation for a better deal in the
$100-150 range?
Doc
Hakkos are good equipment. I've had occasion to use them, and while
they're incomparable to a Metcal, they're better than your average
Weller WTC-201.
The card that HAS to come with it allows changing the temperature. The
idea is that a production floor supervisor or specialist sets the
temperature the line person will use, or , depending on the model, allow
them to select from a couple different temperatures.
$150 seems pretty decent for a new one, although they go all over the
map on eBay. You might check the sold auctions to see what they're
getting these days.
Oh, and tips are not unreasonable priced for this irons.
--jc
8:38 a.m.
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Doc Shipley wrote:
A surplus barn here is getting a huge lot of
factory refurb Hakko 939
solder stations. He says he'll be getting $150 for them, with a 90-day
warranty from Hakko. He has one as a sample from his supplier, and it
looks NIB.
Back to the point, has anyone on-list used Hakko gear? Like it, or
not?
I am the Service Dept. Manager for a medium-sized radio remote control
company, and I purchase all the tools and equipment. I use only Hakko
desoldering stations, and only Edsyn soldering irons. I do have a Hakko
703 station with a soldering iron (same as the one on the 939 you're
considering), a 950 hot tweezers for SMT work, and a 807 solder sucker.
I'm very happy with all the equipment on that unit. I only use that iron
for fine work; usually I use my Edsyn 951SX ($160) for general soldering.
Tips are not expensive for the Hakko iron. They last a long time; the
only tips that last longer in my experience, are the ones for the Edsyn.
I got 5 years, 40 hrs/week out of my last general purpose tip for the
Edsyn.
It does have a temperature-changing punched card, if you hadn't seen. You
do need the card, but fortunately it's a punch card (not magnetic or
anything) and I made one out of cardboard when we had some contract
employees who were re-working some SMT capacitors on one of our boards,
and their irons were "permanently" set to 900 degrees. I didn't let
*that* go on for long. If you need a card, I can probably find my
cardboard one, or give you the number of a Hakko distributor.
Let me know if you have any more questions,
Richard Schauer
9:20 a.m.
Back to the point, has anyone on-list used Hakko
gear? Like it, or
not?
Or does anybody have a recommendation for a better deal in the
$100-150 range?
Doc
I've used both a low-end soldering station and the Hakko desoldering
'pistol'. The soldering iron is okay, but I tend to like the beefiness of
a Weller better. I did like thedesoldering tool, as long as you kept it
clean it worked great.
For refurbed equip I'd say the 150 tag might be a little high, but you are
probably buying another warranty from Hakko. Caveat emptor, and YMMV.
Gary Hildebrand
St. Joseph, MO
12:37 p.m.
Doc,
A friend of mine uses the Hakko stuff and really loves them. He picks
them up at the hamfests for $30 or $40. I think $150 is way out of line.
Check E-bay and see what they're going for there. Personally I use an
adjustable temp controlled Weller solder station and I'm very happy with
it. If you do get the Hakko unit make dammed sure that you get the metal
card that lets you reset the terperature. They frequently show up without
the card but you can't change the temperature without it.
Joe
At 03:04 AM 1/30/04 -0600, you wrote:
Nowhere near 10 years old, but ClassicCmp is the
place most likely to
know....
A surplus barn here is getting a huge lot of factory refurb Hakko 939
solder stations. He says he'll be getting $150 for them, with a 90-day
warranty from Hakko. He has one as a sample from his supplier, and it
looks NIB.
That unit is much more sophisticated than I really need. I convert
serial & graphics cables for my toys, touch up the odd dry joint or
scratched-out trace, chase fire ants, and hack potentially lethal PSUs
into my print servers. (Yeah, I had to go there) However, even a
decent used setup that'll behave nicely for what I do is going to run
me $100, so I'd rather splurge a little than inherit somebody else's
scorch marks.
Back to the point, has anyone on-list used Hakko gear? Like it, or
not?
Or does anybody have a recommendation for a better deal in the
$100-150 range?
Doc
12:46 p.m.
On Jan 30, 2004, at 12:37 PM, Joe R. wrote:
A friend of mine uses the Hakko stuff and really loves them. He picks
them up at the hamfests for $30 or $40. I think $150 is way out of
line.
Check E-bay and see what they're going for there. Personally I use an
adjustable temp controlled Weller solder station and I'm very happy
with
it. If you do get the Hakko unit make dammed sure that you get the
metal
card that lets you reset the terperature. They frequently show up
without
the card but you can't change the temperature without it.
I wouldn't even consider over $100 for a random used setup. These
are refurbished, reboxed, and warranteed by Hakko. They do come with
the key card.
eBay doesn't show much in the temp-controlled lines, and there are a
couple of dealers online that get $150-249 for the refurbs, and over
$400 for NOS.
I've used Weller gear and like it, but IMO there's a pretty hefty
price premium on the name. Plus, most of the time when their high-end
stuff shows up used, it's been rode hard and put up wet.
Doc
1:05 p.m.
At 12:46 PM 1/30/04 -0600, you wrote:
On Jan 30, 2004, at 12:37 PM, Joe R. wrote:
I guess that depends on where the stuff comes from. I get a lot of stuff
A friend of mine uses the Hakko stuff and really loves them. He picks
them up at the hamfests for $30 or $40. I think $150 is way out of
line.
Check E-bay and see what they're going for there. Personally I use an
adjustable temp controlled Weller solder station and I'm very happy
with
it. If you do get the Hakko unit make dammed sure that you get the
metal
card that lets you reset the terperature. They frequently show up
without
the card but you can't change the temperature without it.
I wouldn't even consider over $100 for a random used setup. These
are refurbished, reboxed, and warranteed by Hakko. They do come with
the key card.
eBay doesn't show much in the temp-controlled lines, and there are a
couple of dealers online that get $150-249 for the refurbs, and over
$400 for NOS.
I've used Weller gear and like it, but IMO there's a pretty hefty
price premium on the name. Plus, most of the time when their high-end
stuff shows up used, it's been rode hard and put up wet. from Martin Marietta and Hassis Corp. Both are large US
government
contractors. They buy the GOOD stuff and take care of it and at the end
of
a contract they dispose of it even if it's never been used. So when I get
it I seldom have trouble with the stuff. FWIW I've picked up used Weller
SSs that work perfectly and resold them at the hamfests for $20. YMMV
Personally, I use a Weller EC3000 and I'm completely satisfied with it.
Joe
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