Curt vendel <curt(a)atarimuseum.com> wrote: I started my VAX life at an even later date! 1997. So yes, I am a late comer to the club. I saw a VAX for the first time in my life in 1997. But I wanted to run 4.3BSD and I was determined to do whatever it takes to do it. So I learned the VAX terminology and genealogy, learned how to make my way around the VAX world, and learned that original 4.3BSD ran only on VAXen so huge and so rare (an 11/7xx wasn't exactly a readily obtainable item even in 1997, much less today) that I would never be able to run one. I learned that to make 4.3BSD run on a VAX of the kind I could lay my hands on and run in an apartment I would have to actually do major work on the code first. Now imagine me back then in 1997-98 thinking about the prospect of making major changes to a VAX UNIX kernel while having virtually no knowledge of VAX architecture and system programming. But I was determined. A good ClassicCmp friend provided me with literature (VAX Architecture Reference Manual, VAX Architecture Handbook, and VAX Hardware Handbook), and I learned the VAX architecture and instruction set. I read and studied everything I could about VAXen. And it has paid off: I know VAX really well now, people consult with me on deep VAX hardware questions, I successfully maintain a VAX operating system, and I'm even working in the background (though not too many cycles dedicated to it right now) on the design of a new VAX CPU chip. Maybe we are talking about different things, but InfoServer runs a special proprietary embedded OS and it is not a web server, it talks a special proprietary protocol. Unless I'm totally mistaken on that one. (InfoServer was a fairly unusual beast.) MS