10 Jun
1998
10 Jun
'98
7:08 a.m.
OK what is an IBM 5363 II? I found one in a trift store.
I've been told that the 5363 was a S/36 that designed to be a very low
cost entry into the 3X architecture and that it runs an operating systems
called SSP. So what is a 5363 II and what OS does it use? Is it worth
picking up and saving? Also does anyone know how to get around the password
protection?
Joe
10 Jun
10 Jun
9:31 a.m.
[What's 5363?]
That's an IBM System/36. Once you get in, it's a nice menuized thing, easy
to deal with. I have one, and I'm getting another.
SSP means System Support Product. I guess it's the O/S...
You will need a twinax terminal to use it. They're neat to have.
Especially if you get manuals and the SSP floppies...
As for the password, it took me 3 tries to get into mine.
Username BACKUP, password was PASS. Nice.
It can be reloaded from the SSP disks (I don't have these. Anyone got images?)
to bypass the passwords...
Also, see if you can get the key that goes in the frontpanel. It's not
necessary to run the machine, but it lets you put the machine in Service
mode and you can make it do fun things like dump core.
I have bypassed this on my box by wiring the key permanently in the SERVICE
position.
If you get it, I'd be glad to help run it...
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8 Oct
8 Oct
1:12 p.m.
Daniel,
The trift store that has the 5363 is closing down and now they're willing
to part with it. What should I offer for it? or what are they worth? I
doubt they have any docs or disks but apparently they have a terminal or
monitor on it and a keyboard cause some guy used to tinker with it.
Joe
At 02:31 PM 6/10/98 -0700, you wrote:
[What's 5363?]
That's an IBM System/36. Once you get in, it's a nice menuized thing, easy
to deal with. I have one, and I'm getting another.
SSP means System Support Product. I guess it's the O/S...
You will need a twinax terminal to use it. They're neat to have.
Especially if you get manuals and the SSP floppies...
As for the password, it took me 3 tries to get into mine.
Username BACKUP, password was PASS. Nice.
It can be reloaded from the SSP disks (I don't have these. Anyone got
images?)
to bypass the passwords...
Also, see if you can get the key that goes in the frontpanel. It's not
necessary to run the machine, but it lets you put the machine in Service
mode and you can make it do fun things like dump core.
I have bypassed this on my box by wiring the key permanently in the SERVICE
position.
If you get it, I'd be glad to help run it...
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9 Oct
9 Oct
12:18 a.m.
[They have the keyboard...]
I dunno - I'd offer them about $30 if it has the terminal.
Oh, and don't forget to ask about usernames/passwords...
I broke into mine only because the previous owner had an easily guessable
username and password (BACKUPS/BACKUPS).
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11 Jun
11 Jun
12:53 a.m.
At 02:08 PM 6/10/98, you wrote:
OK what is an IBM 5363 II? I found one in a trift
store.
I've been told that the 5363 was a S/36 that designed to be a very low
cost entry into the 3X architecture and that it runs an operating systems
called SSP. So what is a 5363 II and what OS does it use? Is it worth
picking up and saving? Also does anyone know how to get around the password
protection?
Joe
I have a working 5363 that I use for data conversion work (mostly System/36
data files to PC formats). It isn't what I'd call a "fun machine," (we
won't get into detail on "fun machines" since there may be children
reading) being IBM it's _all business_.
The OS is "System Support Programs," or SSP. Most of the S/36 machines had
RPG II installed and a few had BASIC and perhaps ASM. There is also a COBOL
for S/36, but I haven't been fortunate enough to stumble onto the
distribution diskettes for it.
There is a way around the security--there are a few System/36 consultants
with web sites and one in particular (can't remember which) told me a while
back that for a few $$ he would hack one for a customer of ours. You could
probably find someone on comp.sys.ibm.sys3x.misc or comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc
who knows the hack.
That said, try user "MASTER" and passwd "PASS". IIRC, these were the
defaults for admin and some sites never changed them (this is why "default"
security settings are a bad thing). If I'm wrong about the defaults, email
me and I'll wade through the manuals and find them again--or maybe some
kind soul here knows and will correct me.
Pick it up. If you decide you don't want the thing give me a holler and
I'll buy it for spares for my 5363.
--
David Wollmann
dwollmann(a)ibmhelp.com
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