3 Jul
2007
3 Jul
'07
1:55 a.m.
Ray Arachelian <ray at arachelian.com> wrote:
As as aside, there were lots of very strange things on
SCSI busses back
in the day. Scanners were quite common, but there actually existed
printers, and even video cards on SCSI busses. :-) The SCSI video card
and ethernet card were useful for compact Macs that had a scsi port, but
no expansion slots.
Not even to speak of some of the stuff the scientific camp came to use. I got two
"Gradient DeskLAB" SCSI DSP boxen for audio I/O from a chair at University where
they were used for speech recognition and synthesis in the context of an automatic
phone-in train timetable information system.
Unfortunately absolutely no documentation and/or software to go with them, not much about
them in the web (except for some people stating they used them for diploma thesis and
similar), so I'm looking for any information about them you could come up with.
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3 Jul
3 Jul
8:51 a.m.
Ray Arachelian <ray at arachelian.com> wrote:
As as aside, there were lots of very strange things on
SCSI busses back
in the day. Scanners were quite common, but there actually existed
printers, and even video cards on SCSI busses. :-)
I currently support two very high end 55" Xerox plotters that are attached
via SCSI to the Sun workstations that convert the plots to something the
plotters can handle.
About 11-14 years ago I was supporting a pair of colour
scanners/printer/copier devices that were SCSI attached.
I'm not sure, but I think that really high end scanners are still SCSI
attached. USB, while convenient, is not a good way to connect a scanner.
The SCSI video card
and ethernet card were useful for compact Macs that had a scsi port, but
no expansion slots.
I've not seen a SCSI video card, but have a SCSI Ethernet for my Mac SE/30.
Zane
9:18 a.m.
In article <200707031551.l63FpF2Q029521 at onyx.spiritone.com>,
"Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com> writes:
I'm not sure, but I think that really high end
scanners are still SCSI
attached. USB, while convenient, is not a good way to connect a scanner.
USB scanners are a recent phenomenon, as USB is relatively recent.
Before USB had decent transfer rates (USB 2?), SCSI was the defacto
way to connect scanners to a PC, Mac or workstation.
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1:44 p.m.
On 7/3/07, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
I've not seen a SCSI video card, but have a SCSI
Ethernet for my Mac SE/30.
I've used those on compact Macs with good success. I've always
wondered if there is enough information out there to write a driver to
use them on a generic platform. Are there any models of SCSI-ethernet
with deciphered internals? Really, I suppose, it wouldn't be hard to
hang a SCSI analyzer between a compact Mac and the SCSI adapter and
sniff out the protocol, but I don't happen to have a SCSI analyzer.
Did anyone do this already, or have folks just figured there are
easier ways to add Ethernet to small machines?
-ethan
4:35 p.m.
On 7/3/07, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
I think the Asante device is really all there is for the SCSI-to-Ethernet
devices. ISTR, Atari TOS users being interested in them years ago to add
ethernet to systems such as the TT030. I don't remember if they succeeded.
Zane
I've not seen a SCSI video card, but have a
SCSI Ethernet for my Mac SE/30.
I've used those on compact Macs with good success. I've always
wondered if there is enough information out there to write a driver to
use them on a generic platform. Are there any models of SCSI-ethernet
with deciphered internals? Really, I suppose, it wouldn't be hard to
hang a SCSI analyzer between a compact Mac and the SCSI adapter and
sniff out the protocol, but I don't happen to have a SCSI analyzer.
Did anyone do this already, or have folks just figured there are
easier ways to add Ethernet to small machines?
-ethan
5:43 p.m.
I think the Asante device is really all there is for
the SCSI-to-Ethernet
devices.
Dayna also.
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7 Jul
7 Jul
12:51 a.m.
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:44:30 -0500
"Ethan Dicks" <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
Are there any models of SCSI-ethernet with deciphered
internals?
SE(4) NetBSD Kernel Interfaces Manual
SE(4)
NAME
se -- Cabletron EA41x SCSI bus Ethernet interface driver
SYNOPSIS
se* at scsibus? target ? lun ?
DESCRIPTION
The se driver supports the Cabletron EA41x SCSI bus Ethernet interface.
This driver is a bit unusual. It must look like a network interface and
it must also appear to be a SCSI device to the SCSI system.
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9 Jul
9 Jul
8:26 a.m.
On 7/7/07, Jochen Kunz <jkunz at unixag-kl.fh-kl.de> wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:44:30 -0500
"Ethan Dicks" <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for that. I happen to have a Dayna interface or two, but at
least perusing the 'sedriver' source could be illuminating, even if
it's not compatible.
-ethan
Are there any models of SCSI-ethernet with
deciphered internals?
SE(4) NetBSD Kernel Interfaces Manual
SE(4)
The se driver supports the Cabletron EA41x SCSI bus Ethernet interface. 
4 Jul
4 Jul
2:39 a.m.
New subject: Strange SCSI devices
Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 5:51:15 PM, you wrote:
This isn't Apple, but in the good old days SGI used to offer it's
Video Creator hardware either as VME or SCSI solution. Sounded hard to
believe at first, but then there are scanners and other !drive stuff
for SCSI as well.
Some hints on that past can still be found in the online documentation
for IRIX 5.3 in the vcinv manpage:
http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?coll=0530&db=man…
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The SCSI video
card
and ethernet card were useful for compact Macs that had a scsi port, but
no expansion slots.
I've not seen a SCSI video card, but have a SCSI Ethernet
for my Mac SE/30.
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