26 Dec
2012
26 Dec
'12
2:56 a.m.
Something to do in the quiet times between the Xmas pies and the
festive cheer: Make a YouTube video on the most classic of my classic
computers. The IBM-PC
http://youtu.be/Xw5uRmjESMc
Terry Stewart (Tez)
26 Dec
26 Dec
10:33 a.m.
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012, Terry Stewart wrote:
Something to do in the quiet times between the Xmas
pies and the
festive cheer: Make a YouTube video on the most classic of my classic
computers. The IBM-PC
http://youtu.be/Xw5uRmjESMc
Very clean machine. Nice Job!
g.
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12:11 p.m.
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, Terry Stewart wrote:
About four years ago I got a complete 5160 with color monitor & IBM
printer for about $200. Everything was in the original boxes and even
included IBM branded printer & serial cables, also in boxes! I need to
find a good keyboard for my 5150 though.
The cool thing was that it appeared to have been boxed and then never
touched since about 1986. That's what all the file dates read. The
machine was totally pristine, inside and out. Spinrite found zero errors
on the 10MB hard disk it had too.
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
Very clean
machine. Nice Job!
Thanks. It's very clean although I've had to make a couple of repairs
in the past. A shorted diode in the monitor. It also threw a RAM
chip one time. Thank goodness for POST messages, which pointed me to
the exact one! 
2:42 p.m.
From: geneb <geneb at deltasoft.com>
About four years ago I got a complete 5160 with color monitor & IBM printer for about
$200.? Everything was in the original boxes and even included IBM branded printer &
serial cables, also in boxes!? I need to find a good keyboard for my 5150 though.
The cool thing was that it appeared to have been boxed and then never touched since about
1986.? That's what all the file dates read.? The machine was totally pristine, inside
and out.? Spinrite found zero errors on the 10MB hard disk it had too.
g.
C: wow now you're in the big leagues. A real peecee. Holy. World look out.
7:41 p.m.
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012, Chris Tofu wrote:
C: wow now you're in the big leagues. A real peecee. Holy. World look
out.
If I wanted to hear from you, I'd hold you down and pour molten lead down
your throat until the morse code embedded in your gurgling told me what I
wanted to know.
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
8:44 p.m.
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012, geneb wrote:
I'm not worried. Forge-melted fishing weights and tire-balance weights
work. Hell if it comes to it, I've got 92lbs worth of lead balance
weights I pulled out of the nose of my F-15. Includes zinc chromate green
paint as a bonus carcinogen.
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
If I wanted to hear from you, I'd hold you
down and pour molten lead down
your throat until the morse code embedded in your gurgling told me what I
wanted to know.
RoHS makes availability less convenient.
27 Dec
27 Dec
3:37 p.m.
holy crap somebody search this guy's house for weapons. He is one nasty individual!
________________________________
From: geneb <geneb at deltasoft.com>
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: My IBM 5150 on YouTube
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012, Chris Tofu wrote:
C: wow now you're in the big leagues. A real peecee. Holy. World look out.
If I wanted to hear from you, I'd hold you down and pour molten lead down your
throat until the morse code embedded in your gurgling told me what I wanted to know.
g.
-- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby.? Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
8:01 p.m.
On 12/27/2012 7:58 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, Chris Tofu wrote:
Aviation fuel does make life easier though.
holy crap somebody search this guy's house
for weapons. He is one nasty
individual!
Why?
The penalties are probably no more sever than for the RoHS violations.
Besides, what need for firearms if one has molten lead and an F15?
28 Dec
28 Dec
10:36 a.m.
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, ben wrote:
On 12/27/2012 7:58 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
That gives me a good idea! I could feed what's left to a F100-PW-F220 and
call it a "Derp Ingestion Test".
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, Chris Tofu wrote:
Aviation fuel does make life easier though.
holy crap somebody search this guy's house
for weapons. He is one nasty
individual!
Why?
The penalties are probably no more sever than for the RoHS violations.
Besides, what need for firearms if one has molten lead and an F15? 
26 Dec
26 Dec
3:56 p.m.
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012, geneb wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, Terry Stewart wrote:
About four years ago I got a complete 5160 with color monitor & IBM printer
for about $200. Everything was in the original boxes and even included IBM
branded printer & serial cables, also in boxes! I need to find a good
keyboard for my 5150 though.
The cool thing was that it appeared to have been boxed and then never touched
since about 1986. That's what all the file dates read. The machine was
totally pristine, inside and out. Spinrite found zero errors on the 10MB
hard disk it had too.
Must be something about XTs... I also have one that came to me in the
original boxes and in mint condition.
Bought it from a retired college professor for $50.
Steve
--
Very
clean machine. Nice Job!
Thanks. It's very clean although I've had to make a couple of repairs
in the past. A shorted diode in the monitor. It also threw a RAM
chip one time. Thank goodness for POST messages, which pointed me to
the exact one!
7:45 p.m.
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012, Steven Hirsch wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012, geneb wrote:
Now that's a score. The shipping labels on the boxes lead me to believe
that my example was used internally at IBM.
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
About four years ago I got a complete 5160 with
color monitor & IBM printer
for about $200. Everything was in the original boxes and even included IBM
branded printer & serial cables, also in boxes! I need to find a good
keyboard for my 5150 though.
The cool thing was that it appeared to have been boxed and then never
touched since about 1986. That's what all the file dates read. The
machine was totally pristine, inside and out. Spinrite found zero errors
on the 10MB hard disk it had too.
Must be something about XTs... I also have one that came to me in the
original boxes and in mint condition.
Bought it from a retired college professor for $50.
4:34 p.m.
About four years ago I got a complete 5160 with color
monitor & IBM printer
for about $200. Everything was in the original boxes and even included IBM
branded printer & serial cables, also in boxes! I need to find a good
keyboard for my 5150 though.
The cool thing was that it appeared to have been boxed and then never
touched since about 1986. That's what all the file dates read. The machine
was totally pristine, inside and out. Spinrite found zero errors on the
10MB hard disk it had too.
Nice. Here in New Zealand original IBM PC and PC/XT machines aren't
common. Largely a result of companies scrapping them, so they weren't
shoved up in a loft like many beloved home computers. Also by the
time businesses started to buy in bulk, the Asian clone factories were
in full production. Those clones were just so much cheaper!
Terry (Tez)
7:50 p.m.
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, Terry Stewart wrote:
The first clone I got was a DTK board. Nice little '286.
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
10MB hard disk
it had too.
Nice. Here in New Zealand original IBM PC and PC/XT machines aren't
common. Largely a result of companies scrapping them, so they weren't
shoved up in a loft like many beloved home computers. Also by the
time businesses started to buy in bulk, the Asian clone factories were
in full production. Those clones were just so much cheaper!
2:34 p.m.
Terry thanks for that, I'm watching it now.
You're in New Zealand IIRC. You should try and get your hands on some wild Japanese
pseudo compatibles. I'm of the persuasion they're much more plentiful (for what
it's worth!) then they are over here.
?You sound more English then Kiwi to me. But maybe I just haven't known too many
Zealanders.
2:45 p.m.
From: Chris Tofu <rampaginggreenhulk at yahoo.com>
?You sound more English then Kiwi to me. But maybe I just haven't known too many
Zealanders.
C: Alright I take it back entirely. You definitely sound like someone from way down unda.
4:29 p.m.
You're in New Zealand IIRC. You should try and get
your hands on some wild Japanese pseudo compatibles.
I'm of the persuasion they're much more plentiful (for what it's worth!) then
they are over here.
I won't say plentiful but they do come up from time to time. Problem
with my collection is storage space in that there isn't any! (-:
Alright I take it back entirely. You definitely sound
like someone from way down unda.
LOL. I'm sure I most certainly do!
Terry (Tez)
4:55 p.m.
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012, Chris Tofu wrote:
Terry thanks for that, I'm watching it now.
You're in New Zealand IIRC. You should try and get your hands on some
wild Japanese pseudo compatibles. I'm of the persuasion they're much
more plentiful (for what it's worth!) then they are over here.
Howzbout PC/JX? NOT available EVER in USA, but legit IBM machine with
720K 5.25" drives available.
5:04 p.m.
Howzbout PC/JX?? NOT available EVER in USA, but legit IBM machine with
720K 5.25" drives available.
C: Oh they snuck a few in, huyu think you're fooling.
?
???? The BYTE issue, sometime in 1982, had a number of Japanese specific computers, many
dual processor (68k + 8086). That's what I had in mind. By far the most mondo coolest
of them all.
5:14 p.m.
Howzbout PC/JX? NOT available EVER in USA, but legit
IBM machine with
720K 5.25" drives available.
Yes, I've seen that model come up for sale here at least once. There
is a review of it in this issue of New Zealand Bits and Bytes
http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/bits-and-bytes/issue4.3.htm
Terry (Tez)
5:50 p.m.
On 12/26/2012 04:55 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012, Chris Tofu wrote:
I've seen the JX for sale in Oz--terrible system design--an "improved"
Peanut with all of the bad points left in and a few more added. I
recall that at the early announcement that there was speculation that it
might use the new 80286 CPU. No such luck--same old 8088 4.77MHz.
There was a hard disk available for it as a "stackable" item that fit on
top of the CPU/floppy unit. The price was outrageous for a 10 MB disk.
As if that weren't enough, the basic hardware had large
incompatibilities with the 5150.
One wonders why they bothered.
--Chuck
Terry thanks for that, I'm watching it now.
You're in New Zealand IIRC. You should try and get your hands on some
wild Japanese pseudo compatibles. I'm of the persuasion they're much
more plentiful (for what it's worth!) then they are over here.
Howzbout PC/JX? NOT available EVER in USA, but legit IBM machine with
720K 5.25" drives available. 
6:10 p.m.
On 27/12/2012, at 10:55 AM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
Howzbout PC/JX? NOT available EVER in USA, but legit
IBM machine with
720K 5.25" drives available.
I have an IBM JX (in Australia).. Nicely built machine, but rather useless.
Of the few I have seen (including mine) they all look like they have never been used,
probably because there isn't a great deal of software they can run. Surprisingly the
infra red keyboard actually works ok.
Chris
27 Dec
27 Dec
3:36 p.m.
From: Chris Pye <pye at mactec.com.au>
On 27/12/2012, at 10:55 AM, Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> wrote:
Howzbout PC/JX?? NOT available EVER in USA, but legit
IBM machine with
720K 5.25" drives available.
I have an IBM JX (in Australia)..? Nicely built machine, but rather useless.
Of the few I have seen (including mine) they all look like they have never been used,
probably because there isn't a great deal of software they can run.? Surprisingly the
infra red keyboard actually works ok.
Chris
C: Want to sell it?
5:27 p.m.
On 12/26/2012 6:10 PM, Chris Pye wrote:
On 27/12/2012, at 10:55 AM, Fred Cisin <cisin at
xenosoft.com> wrote:
I'm curious if it is built in Australia, or if it is an oddball Korean
PC. While working @ Ultimate many years ago, someone wanted a Hangul
terminal, and when it showed up it was a really odd unit with 3 1/2 inch
side by side floppy drives. I had at the time been using Dos enough
that I could guess what most messages were even though they were in Hangul.
It hooked up via both serial and 3270 interfaces. Wish I could have
snagged it, but it was sent off somewhere in the US for other vendors to
work on it, and probably scrapped there, as there was little chance of
it going back to Korea.
Jim
Howzbout PC/JX? NOT available EVER in USA, but
legit IBM machine with
720K 5.25" drives available.
I have an IBM JX (in Australia).. Nicely built
machine, but rather useless.
Of the few I have seen (including mine) they all look like they have never been used,
probably because there isn't a great deal of software they can run. Surprisingly the
infra red keyboard actually works ok.
Chris
28 Dec
28 Dec
12:59 a.m.
On 28/12/2012, at 11:27 AM, jim s <jwsmail at jwsss.com> wrote:
On 12/26/2012 6:10 PM, Chris Pye wrote:
On the system I have, it says on the labels for both the system unit and the monitor that
they were made in Tokyo by IBM Japan. The machine was certainly sold there, so maybe they
thought that Japan was their main market for this machine? They certainly were beaten at
that game.
Chris
I have an IBM JX (in Australia).. Nicely built machine, but rather useless.
Of the few I have seen (including mine) they all look like they have never been used,
probably because there isn't a great deal of software they can run. Surprisingly the
infra red keyboard actually works ok.
Chris
I'm curious if it is built in Australia, or if it is an oddball Korean PC.
While working @ Ultimate many years ago, someone wanted a Hangul terminal, and when it
showed up it was a really odd unit with 3 1/2 inch side by side floppy drives. I had at
the time been using Dos enough that I could guess what most messages were even though they
were in Hangul.
It hooked up via both serial and 3270 interfaces. Wish I could have snagged it, but it
was sent off somewhere in the US for other vendors to work on it, and probably scrapped
there, as there was little chance of it going back to Korea.
Jim
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