Hi Warren, Computer Transportation Services at 800-831-0030 and ask for Patti. They have a freight division and a padded van division. They are just a freight broker, and I've been using them for years. Thanks, Paul Anderson -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Warren Wolfe Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:04 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: * EMERGENCY * Shipping Question Hello, folks, I just bought the afore-mentioned HP Rack for my new HP minicomputer. All well and good, but it is for pickup only in California, and I live in Michigan. Who knows a shipper who will pick it up, and drop it off, with only phone contact? Extra difficulty: It's not very heavy, for something that size, but it's HUGE. Looks to be almost six feet tall, probably five or a bit more, with casters. Clues, anyone? Peace, Warren E. Wolfe wizard at voyager.net

Hi Richard CTS is a service company that finds the cheapest price for either common carrier or padded van service. Is your problem with them or the shipper they contracted with? If it was damage to the shipment, you should file a claim with the actual shipper. Thanks, Paul -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Richard Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:54 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: * EMERGENCY * Shipping Question In article <000701c735cf$01cb6dc0$4200a8c0 at main>, "Paul Anderson" <useddec at gmail.com> writes: Note that while others have reported good service from this place in the past, I just had a pretty rotten experience with them. Caveat emptor -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

Warren wrote.... Awesome! You'll be happy with it. Let me know if you need rails, I MIGHT have a few spares. I do have spare keys and other assorted odds & ends of hardware for them. Quite a few of this exact rack have been through my workshop, a few of them stuck around :) Yikes... did the auction say pickup only? I've used many, don't have contact info infront of me though. I suggest you use the one that guy sotomayor listed. He's shipped metric buttloads with them on a frequent basis and if he says they are good to use, that's all I need to know. Even if Richard's recent post on his experience isn't atypical, it's a RACK. Not like it's a glass terminal. Go to MoveIt.com (CTS Transportation services, 1-800-831-0030). I think they are one of the ones I've used before. Make sure you let the shipper know that they will need to metal band the item to a pallet... or see if the seller will at least do that for you. As I said in my previous post on this, see if they have a terminal in your area (if you have a vehicle to tilt it on to - van or pickup works great). If they do, see if they will leave it at the terminal for you to pick up instead of subcontracting out the last leg to your house. It will save you a bundle. Your first contact with a major shipper can be slightly intimidating, they will seem to want all kinds of info that you don't know what they are asking and they expect you to know the terminology right off the top of your head. Just tell them your an individual and it's your first time shipping. Did you see my previous post to the list on this? I gave you rough dimensions ;) Since I have an identical rack with the same add-on front door... I just measured for you. It's 64 inches tall (including wheels) by 21 inches wide by 32 inches deep (including front door that sticks out an inch or so). This doesn't count the two antitip legs that jut out at the bottom front, which stick out 5 inches. Those measurements are exact. I do not know the exact weight of that rack empty, I'd guess about 105-125 (HP racks are a bit heavier than DEC or DG racks, HP racks are pretty solid stuff). Jay

One thing to be aware of is the freight company will want to call someone and verify the pickup BEFORE they drive out. I had major issues with this because they wanted to call me instead of the guy they were picking it up from. It took three pickup attempts before it got on the truck (only two for the drop off...) Clint On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Warren Wolfe wrote:

On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 00:21 -0600, Jay West wrote: Still in process.... <Grumble, grumble> Peace, Warren E. Wolfe wizard at voyager.net