Being such a freak about serial terminals and graphics made it impossible for me to resist this lot at DoveBid's Telogy #5 auction: <http://www.dovebid.com/assets/display.asp?ItemID=tbd181825> (4) Tektronix 4105A color graphics terminals (6) Tektronix 9200T color display terminals (8) Tektronix 9201T color display terminals (1) PEP301 16 MHz System Controller Estimated weight: 1,000 lbs. (I also picked up a Tektronix 4041 System Controller and a couple Random Colleague VT102 laptops. The 4041 came in its original box!) So I needed to get the items picked up from Telogy, packed up for shipment and sent from SF Bay Area, CA to Salt Lake City, UT. Based on my experience with C&F for my Megatek Whizzard 1645, I decided to use them again since they partnered with dovebid. I opted for slightly more expensive (~12% additional) packing where each unit was packed in its own box and these were paletted and freight shipped. The result was two pallets delivered to my house (no loading dock). The nice thing is that every unit is now properly boxed for safe UPS style shipping, making it easy for me to sell & ship some of the duplicates to defray the shipping costs. I could have opted for the "cardboard crate" style of packing which would load units on top of each other separated by cushioning. I think I prefer the individually boxed option for safety as well as for the convenience of resale. I've been watching ebay for a while and these 4105 terminals haven't shown up there at all. I know they are in the 3rd party reseller channel, but they always want like $500 a piece for them. The 9200T and 9201Ts are beasts I haven't ever heard of before, but I'm willing to bet that they are really something like 4105As under the covers. I haven't decided what I'm going to piece out yet, but if you have an interest in any of the terminals or the PEP301, email me off list. There's a very good chance that these have their manuals with them, I only *just* received delivery and I'm still hauling boxes into my basement and haven't inventoried everything yet :-). All in all I'm very happy with the shipping services provided by Craters & Freighters and I would recommend them to anyone who is bidding on remote items through the net and needs a comprehensive pickup, pack up and ship out service. My only relationship with them is as a satisfied customer! <http://www.cratersandfreighters.com> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline"-- code samples, sample chapter, FAQ: <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/> Pilgrimage: Utah's annual demoparty <http://pilgrimage.scene.org>