10 May
2011
10 May
'11
10:58 a.m.
Does anyone have hex-height Unibus extender cards they would be willing
to part with, or loan?
We have created a printer interface card (based one the last rev of the
M8571 plus all relevant ECOs) for an LP20 in the front end of our Tops-10
system (a DECSYSTEM-2065). It turns out that the other cards in the LP20
are not entirely defect free, so we need to hook up a logic analyzer to
see where things are going wrong. We have no Unibus extenders, so we can't
do things like cool suspect delay pots.
We'd really prefer not to have to try building these. :-)
Rich Alderson
Vintage Computing Sr. Server Engineer
Vulcan, Inc.
505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900
Seattle, WA 98104
mailto:RichA at vulcan.com
mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org
http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/
10 May
10 May
11:23 a.m.
One has to wonder what a production run of cards might cost, and how
many people would be interested in them. I don't have any. :-( I'd
be more interested in dual and quad height. Hex height could be used
in a PDP-8 as well, couldn't they?
Zane
At 10:58 AM -0700 5/10/11, Rich Alderson wrote:
Does anyone have hex-height Unibus extender cards they
would be willing
to part with, or loan?
We have created a printer interface card (based one the last rev of the
M8571 plus all relevant ECOs) for an LP20 in the front end of our Tops-10
system (a DECSYSTEM-2065). It turns out that the other cards in the LP20
are not entirely defect free, so we need to hook up a logic analyzer to
see where things are going wrong. We have no Unibus extenders, so we can't
do things like cool suspect delay pots.
We'd really prefer not to have to try building these. :-)
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2:44 p.m.
Look at:
http://www.douglas.com/hardware/pcbs/breadboards/digital.html at the
bottom of the page (for hex).
They will still build them for you, at $100 a pop as long as you order
10 or more.
On 5/10/2011 11:23 AM, Zane H. Healy wrote:
One has to wonder what a production run of cards might
cost, and how
many people would be interested in them. I don't have any. :-( I'd
be more interested in dual and quad height. Hex height could be used
in a PDP-8 as well, couldn't they?
Zane
At 10:58 AM -0700 5/10/11, Rich Alderson wrote:
Does anyone have hex-height Unibus extender cards
they would be willing
to part with, or loan?
We have created a printer interface card (based one the last rev of the
M8571 plus all relevant ECOs) for an LP20 in the front end of our
Tops-10
system (a DECSYSTEM-2065). It turns out that the other cards in the
LP20
are not entirely defect free, so we need to hook up a logic analyzer to
see where things are going wrong. We have no Unibus extenders, so we
can't
do things like cool suspect delay pots.
We'd really prefer not to have to try building these. :-)
3:46 p.m.
Got it covered: I have some (that I bought from Douglas). The Douglas website can be a
bit hard to navigate, but the folks there are really nice. -- Ian
________________________________________
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Don
North [ak6dn at mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 2:44 PM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Unibus extender cards
Look at:
http://www.douglas.com/hardware/pcbs/breadboards/digital.html at the
bottom of the page (for hex).
They will still build them for you, at $100 a pop as long as you order
10 or more.
On 5/10/2011 11:23 AM, Zane H. Healy wrote:
One has to wonder what a production run of cards might
cost, and how
many people would be interested in them. I don't have any. :-( I'd
be more interested in dual and quad height. Hex height could be used
in a PDP-8 as well, couldn't they?
Zane
At 10:58 AM -0700 5/10/11, Rich Alderson wrote:
Does anyone have hex-height Unibus extender cards
they would be willing
to part with, or loan?
We have created a printer interface card (based one the last rev of the
M8571 plus all relevant ECOs) for an LP20 in the front end of our
Tops-10
system (a DECSYSTEM-2065). It turns out that the other cards in the
LP20
are not entirely defect free, so we need to hook up a logic analyzer to
see where things are going wrong. We have no Unibus extenders, so we
can't
do things like cool suspect delay pots.
We'd really prefer not to have to try building these. :-)
6:59 p.m.
On Tuesday (05/10/2011 at 02:44PM -0700), Don North wrote:
Look at:
http://www.douglas.com/hardware/pcbs/breadboards/digital.html at
the bottom of the page (for hex).
They will still build them for you, at $100 a pop as long as you
order 10 or more.
Are they still in business? If so, perhaps they do not do it by email?
Numerous email to them from here have gone unanswered.
I'm another guy needing Unibus extender board(s) so if a group buy or
something similar comes together, add me to the list.
Chris
On 5/10/2011 11:23 AM, Zane H. Healy wrote:
--
Chris Elmquist
One has to wonder what a production run of cards
might cost, and
how many people would be interested in them. I don't have any.
:-( I'd be more interested in dual and quad height. Hex height
could be used in a PDP-8 as well, couldn't they?
Zane
At 10:58 AM -0700 5/10/11, Rich Alderson wrote:
Does anyone have hex-height Unibus extender cards
they would be willing
to part with, or loan?
We have created a printer interface card (based one the last rev of the
M8571 plus all relevant ECOs) for an LP20 in the front end of
our Tops-10
system (a DECSYSTEM-2065). It turns out that the other cards in
the LP20
are not entirely defect free, so we need to hook up a logic analyzer to
see where things are going wrong. We have no Unibus extenders,
so we can't
do things like cool suspect delay pots.
We'd really prefer not to have to try building these. :-)
7:47 p.m.
On 5/10/11 9:59 PM, Chris Elmquist wrote:
I'm in, but not for a couple of months. It'll probably take that
long to get one together.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
Look at:
http://www.douglas.com/hardware/pcbs/breadboards/digital.html at
the bottom of the page (for hex).
They will still build them for you, at $100 a pop as long as you
order 10 or more.
Are they still in business? If so, perhaps they do not do it by email?
Numerous email to them from here have gone unanswered.
I'm another guy needing Unibus extender board(s) so if a group buy or
something similar comes together, add me to the list.
11:04 p.m.
I didn't get response to email either, so I called them, and they were very nice
folks. I think they have a weird email distribution protocol. -- Ian
________________________________________
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
Chris Elmquist [chrise at pobox.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 6:59 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only
Cc: Rich Alderson
Subject: Re: Unibus extender cards
On Tuesday (05/10/2011 at 02:44PM -0700), Don North wrote:
Look at:
http://www.douglas.com/hardware/pcbs/breadboards/digital.html at
the bottom of the page (for hex).
They will still build them for you, at $100 a pop as long as you
order 10 or more.
Are they still in business? If so, perhaps they do not do it by email?
Numerous email to them from here have gone unanswered.
I'm another guy needing Unibus extender board(s) so if a group buy or
something similar comes together, add me to the list.
Chris
On 5/10/2011 11:23 AM, Zane H. Healy wrote:
--
Chris Elmquist
One has to wonder what a production run of cards
might cost, and
how many people would be interested in them. I don't have any.
:-( I'd be more interested in dual and quad height. Hex height
could be used in a PDP-8 as well, couldn't they?
Zane
At 10:58 AM -0700 5/10/11, Rich Alderson wrote:
Does anyone have hex-height Unibus extender cards
they would be willing
to part with, or loan?
We have created a printer interface card (based one the last rev of the
M8571 plus all relevant ECOs) for an LP20 in the front end of
our Tops-10
system (a DECSYSTEM-2065). It turns out that the other cards in
the LP20
are not entirely defect free, so we need to hook up a logic analyzer to
see where things are going wrong. We have no Unibus extenders,
so we can't
do things like cool suspect delay pots.
We'd really prefer not to have to try building these. :-)
11 May
11 May
7:06 a.m.
On Tuesday (05/10/2011 at 11:04PM -0700), Ian King wrote:
I didn't get response to email either, so I called
them, and they were very nice folks. I think they have a weird email distribution
protocol. -- Ian
OK. Roger that.
I was hoping to get them to offer some pictures of their various prototype
boards too as I am interested in those as well but find it hard to
visualize what the hole patterns and other routing really are on them.
Chris
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [cctalk-bounces
at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chris Elmquist [chrise at pobox.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 6:59 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only
Cc: Rich Alderson
Subject: Re: Unibus extender cards
On Tuesday (05/10/2011 at 02:44PM -0700), Don North wrote:
--
Chris Elmquist
Look at:
http://www.douglas.com/hardware/pcbs/breadboards/digital.html at
the bottom of the page (for hex).
They will still build them for you, at $100 a pop as long as you
order 10 or more.
Are they still in business? If so, perhaps they do not do it by email?
Numerous email to them from here have gone unanswered.
I'm another guy needing Unibus extender board(s) so if a group buy or
something similar comes together, add me to the list.
Chris
>
> On 5/10/2011 11:23 AM, Zane H. Healy wrote:
> >One has to wonder what a production run of cards might cost, and
> >how many people would be interested in them. I don't have any.
> >:-( I'd be more interested in dual and quad height. Hex height
> >could be used in a PDP-8 as well, couldn't they?
> >
> >Zane
> >
> >
> >
> >At 10:58 AM -0700 5/10/11, Rich Alderson wrote:
> >>Does anyone have hex-height Unibus extender cards they would be willing
> >>to part with, or loan?
> >>
> >>We have created a printer interface card (based one the last rev of the
> >>M8571 plus all relevant ECOs) for an LP20 in the front end of
> >>our Tops-10
> >>system (a DECSYSTEM-2065). It turns out that the other cards in
> >>the LP20
> >>are not entirely defect free, so we need to hook up a logic analyzer to
> >>see where things are going wrong. We have no Unibus extenders,
> >>so we can't
> >>do things like cool suspect delay pots.
> >>
> >>We'd really prefer not to have to try building these. :-)
10 May
10 May
3:49 p.m.
Hex height would only work in a PDP-8/a. -- Ian
________________________________________
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
Zane H. Healy [healyzh at aracnet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:23 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Unibus extender cards
One has to wonder what a production run of cards might cost, and how
many people would be interested in them. I don't have any. :-( I'd
be more interested in dual and quad height. Hex height could be used
in a PDP-8 as well, couldn't they?
Zane
At 10:58 AM -0700 5/10/11, Rich Alderson wrote:
Does anyone have hex-height Unibus extender cards they
would be willing
to part with, or loan?
We have created a printer interface card (based one the last rev of the
M8571 plus all relevant ECOs) for an LP20 in the front end of our Tops-10
system (a DECSYSTEM-2065). It turns out that the other cards in the LP20
are not entirely defect free, so we need to hook up a logic analyzer to
see where things are going wrong. We have no Unibus extenders, so we can't
do things like cool suspect delay pots.
We'd really prefer not to have to try building these. :-)
--
| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator |
| healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| | Photographer |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| My flickr Photostream |
| http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |
11 May
11 May
7:55 p.m.
I thought I saw one on ebay recently....
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12:18 p.m.
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Rich Alderson <RichA at vulcan.com> wrote:
Does anyone have hex-height Unibus extender cards they
would be willing
to part with, or loan?
We have created a printer interface card (based one the last rev of the
M8571 plus all relevant ECOs) for an LP20 in the front end of our Tops-10
system (a DECSYSTEM-2065). ?It turns out that the other cards in the LP20
are not entirely defect free, so we need to hook up a logic analyzer to
see where things are going wrong. ?We have no Unibus extenders, so we can't
do things like cool suspect delay pots.
We'd really prefer not to have to try building these. :-)
Rich Alderson
Vintage Computing Sr. Server Engineer
Vulcan, Inc.
505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900
Seattle, WA 98104
mailto:RichA at vulcan.com
mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org
http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/
12:23 p.m.
I used to use a dual and a quad for a hex when in the field. I have a
W9044 hex here you can borrow, but I think it is set up for VAX
boards. I have all the others, but they are still in storage.
Paul
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Rich Alderson <RichA at vulcan.com> wrote:
Does anyone have hex-height Unibus extender cards they
would be willing
to part with, or loan?
We have created a printer interface card (based one the last rev of the
M8571 plus all relevant ECOs) for an LP20 in the front end of our Tops-10
system (a DECSYSTEM-2065). ?It turns out that the other cards in the LP20
are not entirely defect free, so we need to hook up a logic analyzer to
see where things are going wrong. ?We have no Unibus extenders, so we can't
do things like cool suspect delay pots.
We'd really prefer not to have to try building these. :-)
Rich Alderson
Vintage Computing Sr. Server Engineer
Vulcan, Inc.
505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900
Seattle, WA 98104
mailto:RichA at vulcan.com
mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org
http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/
3:38 p.m.
From: Paul Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:24 PM
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Rich Alderson
<RichA at vulcan.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have hex-height Unibus extender cards
they would be willing
> to part with, or loan?
I used to use a dual and a quad for a hex when in the
field. I have a
W9044 hex here you can borrow, but I think it is set up for VAX
boards. I have all the others, but they are still in storage.
My thanks to Zane Healy, Don North, Chris Elmquist, Paul Popelka, Dave
McGuire, and Paul Anderson, as well as to the two private responses I
received.
As it turns out, Ian (who's been out sick or lecturing at UWash for the
last week or so) had some in his personal collection, and dropped off a
couple at the office last night. (I had asked on the list because he
wasn't around when our colleague noted that he needed them to debug his
VM8571 and the other LP20 boards, so we had no idea he had them. :-)
Rich Alderson
Vintage Computing Sr. Server Engineer
Vulcan, Inc.
505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900
Seattle, WA 98104
mailto:RichA at vulcan.com
mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org
http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/
9:49 p.m.
New subject: EPITEK IC Chips?
I have a daughtercard on two of my Mindset computers with a 24pin IC on
them marked EPITEK.... anybody ever heard of these company or know of
anything about a video IC chip or encoder they made?
Curt
14 May
14 May
10:05 a.m.
New subject: EPITEK IC Chips?
On 12 May 2011 at 0:49, Curt @ Atari Museum wrote:
I have a daughtercard on two of my Mindset computers
with a 24pin IC
on them marked EPITEK.... anybody ever heard of these company or know
of anything about a video IC chip or encoder they made?
Canadian outfit, originally. Address of 100 Schneider Rd. Kanata,
ON. Acquired by CompAS Electronics in the 1990s. After that, ?.
datasheets.org.uk turns up an EDH444TC "TriDAC" - a 3-channel D-to-A
converter for video applications.
--Chuck
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