On 5/24/13 1:57 PM, Jonathan Katz wrote: what SCSI drive? These are MO systems.

On 5/24/2013 4:41 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: I know the hard drive was technically optional but, I've never run into one without one. Those MO drives died early deaths. I can safely say I've never seen a cube without a hard drive or one with a working MO drive.

On 5/24/2013 2:01 PM, Ryan K. Brooks wrote: No need to crack it. Just make it blank.

On 5/24/2013 2:46 PM, Ryan K. Brooks wrote: Doesn't it just use the flat files if the Netinfo server isn't available ? I seem to remember a "hit ctrl-c to continue" window that pops up. It probably wasn't the server but, you never know. I am not actually sure what they are trying to do from the article. If they just want the files they should just mount it on something else and copy them.

On 05/24/2013 03:50 PM, Ryan K. Brooks wrote: Well, lately the Beeb hasn't shown itself to be particularly adroit in things cybernetic: http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2013/digital-media-initiative.h… --Chuck

In article <519FFA09.1080604 at bitsavers.org>, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> writes: -the-Digital-Media-Initiative-DMI When I read this blog post, it feels like.... Mythical Man Month, all over again. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

On 05/24/2013 09:09 PM, Toby Thain wrote: Oh great. Not only suits, but nontechnical suits. Buh-bye Antie Beeb! -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

On 24/05/13 9:18 PM, Liam Proven wrote: There isn't just one, but that's a start. :) --T

On May 24, 2013, at 5:01 PM, "Ryan K. Brooks" <ryan at hack.net> wrote: Not quite that simple. Netinfo. :( But yeah, even OpenBSD or NetBSD, boot off that CD, mount up the drive, copy files off.

On 24/05/13 5:06 PM, mc68010 wrote: There are NEXTSTEP images, and you can even boot them in QEMU - so on pretty much anything. (see http://www.flickr.com/photos/qu1j0t3/sets/72157625058729621 ) That shouldn't be too challenging, they're not /that/ hard to find. Yes. --Toby

On 24/05/13 9:16 PM, Liam Proven wrote: NEXTSTEP 3.3 - is that what you mean by "later editions"? It's the same version I run on M68K and PA-RISC and would obviously have no problems reading the CERN filesystem. FWIW, looks like I took some incomplete notes. Googling "NEXTSTEP 3.3 QEMU" pulls up more. -------- Notes on installing NEXTSTEP 3.3, QEMU emulator $ dd if=/dev/zero of=ns.img bs=1M count=2K 2048+0 records in 2048+0 records out $ qemu -hda ns.img -fda 3.3_Boot_Disk.floppyimage -cdrom ns33.cdimage -boot a At prompt, ctl-alt-2, type "change fda 3.3_Driver_Disk.floppyimage" ctl-alt-1, press Return choose (1) ctl-alt-2, "change fda 3.3_Beta_Drivers.floppyimage" page through drivers with (7) choose the Primary/Secondary EIDE driver proceed through installation after reboot, stop emulator $ qemu -hda ns.img -fda 3.3_Beta_Drivers.floppyimage -cdrom ns33.cdimage -boot c When prompted, press (1) to reload beta drivers from floppy -------- --T

On 5/24/2013 7:35 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Better yet it ran on SPARC. By far the fastest NS platform. A SM81 in a SPARCStation 20 with the sx board is pretty much the ultimate NeXT box. There is nothing out of the black hardware that came close

On Fri, 25 May 2013, Dave McGuire wrote: Still cooler than running it on x86 stuff. ;) -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments

On 5/24/2013 8:52 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: It was also limited to a very small set of x86 hardware. It was pretty much a full time quest to try and find all the parts to make it work. In the end what you got was not as good as the 68k/risc ports. Sun actually had engineers dedicated to nextstep. I imagine hp had some people doing the parisc one too. I don't think I ever heard who did the x86 version. Was it done by next ?

On 25/05/2013 05:19, "Dave McGuire" <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: Several years ago I got an Elonex PC running NS 3.3 from a former NeXT employee along with a Cube and Color Slab. Whether this means NeXT did the port themselves or not I don't know. I never got the machine to run successfully. -- Adrian/Witchy Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer collection?

On Sat, 25 May 2013 16:05:34 -0300 , "Jecel Assumpcao Jr." <jecel at merlintec.com> wrote: Elonex in the UK built the NextStation in mid-1994; it shipped with NS 3.2 initially. I can't find my copy of the Personal Computer World issue which reviewed it, so I can't be any more specific than that... Regards, Stephen

On 05/24/2013 11:16 PM, mc68010 wrote: Yup. I wasn't using the NeXT's DSP for audio (or any other kind of I/O), though. Very true. Moving from a SPARCstation-1+ (8-bit mono, 8kHz) Perhaps a tad faster, but a DSP56001 was no slouch, by the standards of the day...and it wasn't busy running an operating system. :) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

On 25 May 2013 02:55, Toby Thain <toby at telegraphics.com.au> wrote: Blinking flip. I had no idea. How come no-one mentioned this when we discussed the unfinished "Previous" NeXT-hardware emulator a while back? Not only did Googling it give me some info, it also has found me a torrent of the relevant files. Which since I own physical media, I feel entirely justified in downloading. I shall give this a try... -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884