11 Aug
2011
11 Aug
'11
9:44 a.m.
I just posted this on comp.os.cpm
There is no indication other than the mastering number on the disk that they are
different.
Now I'm wondering how many other Walnut Creek CDROMs have deleted content.
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Hallo,
For the sake of redundancy, conservation and fun:
an ISO of the Walnut Creek CDROM.
Thank you. I just discovered there are TWO versions of this disk!
The one you have has versions of teledisk removed, and has directories dated Jan 31, 1995
The original have directories dated Oct 25, 1994.
here are the only two files that differ in 00-INDEX.TXT
TELED210.ZIP 89957 01-09-94 Disk utility that can
read complete CP/M
| disks and copy them to a file to be recreated
| or transmitted.
TELED214.ZIP 139264 01-07-94 Upgrade to Teled210 disk program- See
| Teled210 for complete Manual and
| documentation.
md5 of original is 42571cceef022c582f02dabb4ac68e2c
md5 of 1995 version is faa8c5ba9d1184b7bfc34d999a8c42c4
11 Aug
11 Aug
10:25 a.m.
Interesting question, I have several of the Walnut Creek CD-ROM's,
but no idea where they might be. Most if not all are out in the
garage somewhere. I really need to get organized.
Zane
At 9:44 AM -0700 8/11/11, Al Kossow wrote:
I just posted this on comp.os.cpm
There is no indication other than the mastering number on the disk
that they are different.
Now I'm wondering how many other Walnut Creek CDROMs have deleted content.
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Hallo,
For the sake of redundancy, conservation and fun:
an ISO of the Walnut Creek CDROM.
Thank you. I just discovered there are TWO versions of this disk!
The one you have has versions of teledisk removed, and has
directories dated Jan 31, 1995
The original have directories dated Oct 25, 1994.
here are the only two files that differ in 00-INDEX.TXT
TELED210.ZIP 89957 01-09-94 Disk utility
that can read complete CP/M
| disks and copy them to a file to
be recreated
| or transmitted.
TELED214.ZIP 139264 01-07-94 Upgrade to Teled210 disk program- See
| Teled210 for complete Manual and
| documentation.
md5 of original is 42571cceef022c582f02dabb4ac68e2c
md5 of 1995 version is faa8c5ba9d1184b7bfc34d999a8c42c4
11:38 a.m.
On 8/11/11 10:25 AM, Zane H. Healy wrote:
Interesting question, I have several of the Walnut
Creek CD-ROM's, but no idea where they might be.
so that it gets archived, here are some MD5's of the ones I have
MD5 (199310_Simtel_MSDOS/SIMTEL_1093.iso) = fa0e31a351448b803df17e9d16429f39
MD5 (199403_Hobbes_OS2/HOBBES_0394.iso) = fa7f3c1763315d93d48b0071e1c93558
MD5 (199403_Internet_Info/INET_0394.iso) = a77f353a1677c8e0c0e273e5d4e792ff
MD5 (199411_CPM/CPM_CDROM.iso) = 42571cceef022c582f02dabb4ac68e2c
MD5 (199411_Linux_Yggdrasil/Yggdrasil_Linux_1194.iso) = b5b65933c23de6f6d3b14abfcf98f1b5
MD5 (199501_CDROM_Sampler/CDROM_Sampler_9501.iso) = b23fbe1166983e80405a8e94b9a0bd32
MD5 (199501_CPM/CPM_CDROM.iso) = faa8c5ba9d1184b7bfc34d999a8c42c4
MD5 (199503_Internet_Info/INET_0395.iso) = c31f122d6e1ec6be7f0418b877613852
MD5 (199504_Best_of_Walnut_Creek_CDROM/Best_of_Walnut_Creek_199504.iso) =
a4aa8bda9224e5bc2b8c16ae008d6ac3
MD5 (199504_Giga_Games_2/GIGAGAMES2.iso) = 00d8313dcc151ed306f0bb1365ea51ca
MD5 (199504_POV_RAY/POV_Ray.iso) = 3a642b1d46f57f20ea9cd5d4fbdcb01d
MD5 (199505_Simtel_MSDOS/SIMTEL0595A.iso) = fbee4594e1d596d0e1ee715253af543c
MD5 (199505_Simtel_MSDOS/SIMTEL0595B.iso) = 3a08d918302e7f31591a434c7cc0e640
MD5 (199507_TeX/TEX_0595_V1.iso) = e0db869ae5071a38fc5f2ce18353879a
MD5 (199507_TeX/TEX_0595_V2.iso) = 864f0a8d236a3f4954d7d60cc2f2a23e
MD5 (199508_The_Business_Software_Library/BUS_LIB95.iso) =
59dc633b8f94333d29d9e183d6d5c6e5
MD5 (199509_Simtel_Windows/Simtel_Windows_0995.iso) = 541f67fa7450bd66b7e2e9d2cc812ae0
MD5 (199510_Avalon/AVALON.iso) = 0ee12594c67ed0f5dd3bdace74330fbe
MD5 (199510_Font_Garden/Font Garden_1095.iso) = 0b302e17766bbc72c3e02483a15eb107
MD5 (199511_Linux_Slackware_3.0/SLACK1195_1.iso) = 631dfae9567c9e9f34980af100539b9c
MD5 (199511_Linux_Slackware_3.0/SLAK10_95_2.iso) = 5c9ed883cf1685244d0594863c6e4ffe
MD5 (199602_GNU/GNU_0296.iso) = 5af203f6e24f7d6d629ed1ddc09e508c
MD5 (199602_Task_Buster/Task_Buster_0296.iso) = aef3585efaea78138af00638d4d2cd9e
MD5 (199602_Walnut_Creek_C_UG/CUG_296.iso) = 1774993b8a120fb9f5d0b927c805ff70
MD5 (199603_Newt_For_Windows_NT/NEWT_0396.iso) = 5e2107b87744ba7f6e6e5741ddbb6379
MD5 (199604_Perl/CPAN_0496.iso) = d2dd63618e32749ac5437aa57da465e3
MD5 (199605_BSD_Docs/BSD_DOCS.iso) = adb33000488ad8a18f6f9bbe61f53e28
MD5 (199608_Linux_Slackware/slack96_d1_0896.iso) = cc7d58178f01d8c80219575f9f4ea2ec
MD5 (199608_Linux_Slackware/slack96_d2_0896.iso) = 187a321522f0842b71fa77ef75ff398d
MD5 (199608_Linux_Slackware/slack96_d3_0896.iso) = aa07e28421b255902151f2f542da22ca
MD5 (199608_Linux_Slackware/slack96_d4_0896.iso) = 88cc616e1c12fbcc0e56558ef9c53166
MD5 (199608_MultiMedia_CDROM/MM-CD-ROM.iso) = c12dd6875afcc46f940132cc3dca60e6
MD5 (199610_Internet_Info/INET_996.iso) = 1714609b8afd93b40b6ebccdd21a9072
MD5 (199612_Toolkit_for_Delphi/Delphi_Tlkt.iso) = e5a244cde8c9864fb2ce1ef5b88ba315
MD5 (199702_CICA/CICA2_0297.iso) = babb3b4ea08e2c5d617ada12228f79d8
MD5 (199702_CICA/CICA_0297.iso) = 22c5e535de4eec3860543f3fdfdefe9d
MD5 (199703_Ada/01ada0397.iso) = 60d9f450917371a6cb1ac069eb063503
MD5 (199703_Ada/02ada0397.iso) = 74134d17107c0405050185f76627550a
MD5 (199803_Simtel_MSDOS/Simtel398_1.iso) = 5ab31373f718f55d7328706da2faaf3f
MD5 (199803_Simtel_MSDOS/Simtel398_2.iso) = d0ab2b0ad976a2170c5555f14e97354a
MD5 (199911_Linux_Slackware_7.0/01_Slackware_7.0_Installation.iso) =
6d553749aa71683d31c3064ac32a2c1c
MD5 (199911_Linux_Slackware_7.0/02_Bootable_Slackware_7.0.iso) =
5d4e971a999a818d87894bb419bc8e7b
MD5 (199911_Linux_Slackware_7.0/03_Slackware_7.0_source.iso) =
42be5a88cec743ed4fd7b676eed2b25b
1:09 p.m.
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, Al Kossow wrote:
On 8/11/11 10:25 AM, Zane H. Healy wrote:
It seems to me that you have the expurgated version of the CP/M disk. I
just checked mine and verified that it has Teledisk. Here is the MD5 of
that disk:
baa1645309319074f9871002536b7d5b cpm_cdrom.iso
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dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Interesting question, I have several of the
Walnut Creek CD-ROM's, but no
idea where they might be.
so that it gets archived, here are some MD5's of the ones I have
MD5 (199310_Simtel_MSDOS/SIMTEL_1093.iso) = fa0e31a351448b803df17e9d16429f39
MD5 (199403_Hobbes_OS2/HOBBES_0394.iso) = fa7f3c1763315d93d48b0071e1c93558
MD5 (199403_Internet_Info/INET_0394.iso) = a77f353a1677c8e0c0e273e5d4e792ff
MD5 (199411_CPM/CPM_CDROM.iso) = 42571cceef022c582f02dabb4ac68e2c
12 Aug
12 Aug
1:15 p.m.
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, David Griffith wrote:
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, Al Kossow wrote:
It didn't occur to me to get the true size of the image. I used "dd
if=/dev/sr0 of=foo.iso". Here is the MD5 of the image resulting from this
command: dd if=cpm_cdrom.iso of=fixed.iso bs=2048 count=`/sbin/isosize -d
2048 cpm_cdrom.iso`
42571cceef022c582f02dabb4ac68e2c fixed.iso
also:
$ ls -l cpm_cdrom.iso fixed.iso
-r--r--r-- 1 dave dave 679882752 May 9 2006 cpm_cdrom.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 dave dave 665600000 Aug 12 12:59 fixed.iso
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
On 8/11/11 10:25 AM, Zane H. Healy wrote:
It seems to me that you have the expurgated version of the CP/M disk. I just
checked mine and verified that it has Teledisk. Here is the MD5 of that
disk:
baa1645309319074f9871002536b7d5b cpm_cdrom.iso Interesting question, I have several of the
Walnut Creek CD-ROM's, but no
idea where they might be.
so that it gets archived, here are some MD5's of the ones I have
MD5 (199310_Simtel_MSDOS/SIMTEL_1093.iso) =
fa0e31a351448b803df17e9d16429f39
MD5 (199403_Hobbes_OS2/HOBBES_0394.iso) = fa7f3c1763315d93d48b0071e1c93558
MD5 (199403_Internet_Info/INET_0394.iso) = a77f353a1677c8e0c0e273e5d4e792ff
MD5 (199411_CPM/CPM_CDROM.iso) = 42571cceef022c582f02dabb4ac68e2c 
14 Aug
14 Aug
2:27 p.m.
New subject: Teraks on eBay
There's two Teraks on eBay at 320744126002 . They look pretty rough.
(Pack rats, the rodent kind.) Pick-up only in Tucson, AZ. I received
an email from the seller and have asked what's on the floppies.
- John
4:17 p.m.
New subject: Teraks on eBay
On 8/14/11 2:27 PM, John Foust wrote:
There's two Teraks on eBay at 320744126002 . They look pretty rough.
(Pack rats, the rodent kind.) Pick-up only in Tucson, AZ. I received
an email from the seller and have asked what's on the floppies.
- John
well, I may go after these for the software and the extra keyboard. I have
four units, two monitors, and no keyboards.
15 Aug
15 Aug
7:48 p.m.
New subject: Teraks on eBay
I too, HAVE made a bid. I live near tucson, AZ and while I am interested in
only one, and if I win, I will gladly ship the unit to any interested
party!!!
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
On 8/14/11 2:27 PM, John Foust wrote:
There's two Teraks on eBay at 320744126002 . They look pretty rough.
(Pack rats, the rodent kind.) Pick-up only in Tucson, AZ. I received
an email from the seller and have asked what's on the floppies.
- John
well, I may go after these for the software and the extra keyboard. I have
four units, two monitors, and no keyboards.
16 Aug
16 Aug
7:05 a.m.
New subject: Teraks on eBay
On 8/15/11 7:48 PM, Tom publix wrote:
I too, HAVE made a bid. I live near tucson, AZ and
while I am interested in
only one, and if I win, I will gladly ship the unit to any interested
party!!!
Fine, talk to Richard then. All I was interested in was one of the keyboards.
I'm out of this..
12 Aug
12 Aug
2:28 a.m.
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 09:44:53AM -0700, Al Kossow wrote:
Thank you. I just discovered there are TWO versions of
this disk!
Make that three.
here are the only two files that differ in
00-INDEX.TXT
plough:walnut-creek-CDROM david$ md5sum 00-INDEX.TXT
516420e34e8129e430a6783ce216d424 00-INDEX.TXT
I've put mine at http://hetzner.barnyard.co.uk/walnut-creek-00-index.txt
if you'd like to compare it to yours.
I don't have reliable dates for it though, as I don't think they would
have been preserved when I copied all the data from CD onto a hard disk.
I'm not even sure if I still have the CD.
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TELED210.ZIP 89957 01-09-94 Disk utility
that can read complete C...
TELED214.ZIP 139264 01-07-94 Upgrade to Teled210 disk program- See...
md5 of
original is 42571cceef022c582f02dabb4ac68e2c
md5 of 1995 version is faa8c5ba9d1184b7bfc34d999a8c42c4 
8:19 a.m.
In article <20110812092801.GA23992 at bytemark.barnyard.co.uk>,
David Cantrell <david at cantrell.org.uk> writes:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 09:44:53AM -0700, Al Kossow
wrote:
You don't say explicitly, but this output implies that this is the MD5
of the index text file, whereas others were posting the MD5 of the
disc ISO.
Am I wrong or confused?
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Thank you. I just discovered there are TWO
versions of this disk!
Make that three.
here are the only two files that differ in
00-INDEX.TXT
plough:walnut-creek-CDROM david$ md5sum 00-INDEX.TXT
516420e34e8129e430a6783ce216d424 00-INDEX.TXT TELED210.ZIP 89957 01-09-94 Disk utility
that can read complete C...
TELED214.ZIP 139264 01-07-94 Upgrade to Teled210 disk program- See...
md5 of
original is 42571cceef022c582f02dabb4ac68e2c
md5 of 1995 version is faa8c5ba9d1184b7bfc34d999a8c42c4
10:01 a.m.
On 8/12/11 8:19 AM, Richard wrote:
You don't say explicitly, but this output implies
that this is the MD5
of the index text file, whereas others were posting the MD5 of the
disc ISO.
Am I wrong or confused?
The postings from me and david were for the ISO images
I've asked David to send me a copy of his ISO so I can compare them.
11:03 a.m.
Al Kossow wrote:
The postings from me and david were for the ISO
images
I've asked David to send me a copy of his ISO so I can compare them.
Depending on how you create an ISO image from a CD, you may get some
extraneous blocks (usually zeros) after the actual ISO filesystem. In
particular, this happens if you just do something like
dd if=/dev/sr0 of=foo.iso
There is a utility isosize which will tell you the actual length of the
filesystem in either bytes or blocks, so that you can truncate or copy
it appropriately. For instance,
dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/foo.iso bs=2048 count=`isosize -d 2048 /dev/sr0`
15 Aug
15 Aug
3:23 a.m.
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 09:19:29AM -0600, Richard wrote:
In article <20110812092801.GA23992 at
bytemark.barnyard.co.uk>,
David Cantrell <david at cantrell.org.uk> writes:
One of us is confused, certainly, but it could be me :-)
I was under the impression that the MD5 sums being bandied about were of
the index file.
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On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 09:44:53AM -0700, Al
Kossow wrote:
You don't say explicitly, but
this output implies that this is the MD5
of the index text file, whereas others were posting the MD5 of the
disc ISO.
Am I wrong or confused? Thank you. I just discovered there are TWO
versions of this disk!
Make that three.
plough:walnut-creek-CDROM david$ md5sum 00-INDEX.TXT
516420e34e8129e430a6783ce216d424 00-INDEX.TXT 
12 Aug
12 Aug
9:25 a.m.
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, David Cantrell wrote:
I don't have reliable dates for it though, as I
don't think they would
have been preserved when I copied all the data from CD onto a hard disk.
I'm not even sure if I still have the CD.
Depends on how you copied it.
A "file COPY", including most OS COPY programs should preserve the file
date.
BUT, if you use some sort of transfer utility, including file transfers
over a communications port, then it is likely to create a new file, copy
the content into it, and thus give you the date of transfer.
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