17 Dec
2005
17 Dec
'05
9:52 p.m.
I was looking at a not-very-old HP keyboard today and noticed that the
lettering on the keys is wearing away after only a few years of use.
Another corner quietly cut, I suppose.
Used to be that keytops were double-shot molded, with the lettering all but
indestructible. Is this a practice that's gone forever, or is there still
a vendor who makes keyboards the old way?
Cheers,
Chuck
17 Dec
17 Dec
10:14 p.m.
Chuck Guzis wrote:
I was looking at a not-very-old HP keyboard today and
noticed that the
lettering on the keys is wearing away after only a few years of use.
Another corner quietly cut, I suppose.
Used to be that keytops were double-shot molded, with the lettering all but
indestructible. Is this a practice that's gone forever, or is there still
a vendor who makes keyboards the old way?
I think that went out when M$ started to have function keys defined for them
but with $10 keyboards it hard to spend $$$ for real keys.
10:14 p.m.
I was looking at a not-very-old HP keyboard today and
noticed that the
lettering on the keys is wearing away after only a few years of use.
I've got an IBM keyboard on my desk at work, it's probably six or
seven years old, and most of the letters are worn away. I've
literally worn grooves into some of the key caps with my fingernails.
At the same time, I'm typing this on a nine year old Apple Extended
II ADB keyboard, other than being a bit dirty, it's in *perfect*
condition.
Used to be that keytops were double-shot molded, with
the lettering all but
indestructible. Is this a practice that's gone forever, or is there still
a vendor who makes keyboards the old way?
One of these days I'd like to find a really high quality USB
keyboard. While I do like keys tops that stay intact, I'm more
concerned with with the keyboard not twisting easily, and keys that
feel good when you push on them.
Zane
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10:34 p.m.
Zane H. Healy wrote:
I've got an IBM keyboard on my desk at work,
it's probably six or seven
years old, and most of the letters are worn away. I've literally worn
Not a Model M or suitable Lexmark variant, I hope? All of mine are just fine...
One of these days I'd like to find a really high
quality USB keyboard.
Nah, just buy model Ms and use PS/2-to-USB adapters. :)
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10:40 p.m.
Zane H. Healy wrote:
One of these days I'd like to find a really high quality USB
keyboard. While I do like keys tops that stay intact, I'm more
concerned with with the keyboard not twisting easily, and keys that
feel good when you push on them.
Cherry has some very nice USB keyboards.
Zane
18 Dec
18 Dec
8:12 a.m.
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:40:48 -0700
woodelf <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:
Zane H. Healy wrote:
It is a good thing that firms like Cherry still exist. I remember
the Cherry brand going way back to the days of Minicomputers.
Cherry keyboard hardware was available inexpensive and surplus
before the current crop of cut-rate vendors even existed.
One of these days I'd like to find a really high quality USB
keyboard. While I do like keys tops that stay intact, I'm
more concerned with with the keyboard not twisting easily,
and keys that feel good when you push on them.
Cherry has some very nice USB keyboards.
12:36 a.m.
It was thus said that the Great Zane H. Healy once stated:
One of these days I'd like to find a really high quality USB
keyboard. While I do like keys tops that stay intact, I'm more
concerned with with the keyboard not twisting easily, and keys that
feel good when you push on them.
I got a keyboard/mouse PS/2 to USB connector, so I could use my PS/2
keyboard(s) on my Mac mini. Works like a charm.
-spc (Have yet to find any keyboard as good as a IBM AT or PS/2)
5:33 a.m.
Zane H. Healy wrote:
One of these days I'd like to find a really high
quality USB keyboard.
I remember my father acquiring one new about a year ago from Staples (UK
office supply store, if you don't have them overseas). IIRC it was made by
Packard Bell.
It was silver, and it stayed silver for about two weeks of use - after which
the silver had worn off the most commonly used keys (key legends too of
course) and exposed the black plastic underneath.
I think that has to get my vote for "most unfit for purpose product" that
I've
seen in a good ten years.
Incidentally, he lived with it for six months then bought another, identical
one. It did exactly the same thing over the next two weeks, so PB obviously
never got around to fixing them. (he's a bit of a technophobe is my dad, so
he'll tend to stick with the same broken product line in preference to
'risking' an alternative that might somehow hook up differently :)
cheers
Jules
6:40 a.m.
Zane H. Healy wrote:
One of these days I'd like to find a really high
quality USB keyboard.
While I do like keys tops that stay intact, I'm more concerned with with
the keyboard not twisting easily, and keys that feel good when you push
on them.
I'm using few of the old IBM/Lexmark keyboards from 1984 with an USB/PS2
converter for years. Nice and heavy, so they don't move much after each
keystroke.
11:05 a.m.
Zane H. Healy wrote:
One of these days I'd like to find a really high
quality USB keyboard.
While I do like keys tops that stay intact, I'm more concerned with
with the keyboard not twisting easily, and keys that feel good when
you push on them.
I'm liking the Matias TactilePro keyboard well enough (on an iMac G5).
But then I am also a Northgate OmniKey user (on PCs). The keys feel
and sound about right to me.
Key cap logs are printed on top, not double-shot.
-Frank McConnell
10:24 a.m.
Zane H. Healy wrote:
> One of these days I'd like to find a really high quality USB keyboard.
> While I do like keys tops that stay intact, I'm more concerned with
> with the keyboard not twisting easily, and keys that feel good when
> you push on them.
I'm liking the Matias TactilePro keyboard well
enough (on an iMac G5).
But then I am also a Northgate OmniKey user (on PCs). The keys feel
and sound about right to me.
Key cap logs are printed on top, not double-shot.
-Frank McConnell
Northgate Omnis, few old generics and all old Zenith keyboards
(1980's to early 1990 era) used same switch assembies. Save them
for replacement switches, unsolder two pins and pop them out of metal
frame.
IBM M keyboards are great. I still use and keep few for parts and
back ups.
By the way, I tried a generic ("Smart Adapter"; Ez-PU21) active PS/2
(keyboard & mouse) to USB adapter, works ok but not 90% perfect.
Fails on BIOS, certain OSes. Which active PS/2-USB adapters that
does WORK well?
Cheers, Wizard
4:43 p.m.
jpero at sympatico.ca wrote:
By the way, I tried a generic ("Smart
Adapter"; Ez-PU21) active PS/2
(keyboard & mouse) to USB adapter, works ok but not 90% perfect.
Fails on BIOS, certain OSes. Which active PS/2-USB adapters that
does WORK well?
http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/11298/subc…
Peace... Sridhar
1:30 p.m.
When did double-shot keytops disappear?
When they invented the Sharpie?
Hey, nasty. I just looked at my HP 1405 (ps/2) and 1429 (hphil)
keyboards and, while the coloring matches ages old HP color
choices, no sign of the 2 shot.
You have reminded me that my IBM-M kb collection (dozens)
may not be a crazy thing after all, doesn't take up much space
certainly.
Does anyone make ADB-USB adaptors for the cool design
old Mac keyboards?
John A.
17 Dec
17 Dec
11:14 p.m.
In message <200512172152350052.34E3F89D at 10.0.0.252>
"Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
Used to be that keytops were double-shot molded, with
the lettering all but
indestructible. Is this a practice that's gone forever, or is there still
a vendor who makes keyboards the old way?
I've got a Dell AT102W - proper keyswitches (Alps IIRC), plenty of metal
inside, a lovely "clack" when a key gets pushed... and laser-etched keycaps
:)
These keyboards, BTW, also go by the part number "093GDJ". I'd buy another
-
it's the only Dell-branded device I've found that's actually built reasonably
well...
Later.
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18 Dec
18 Dec
12:07 a.m.
On 12/18/2005 at 7:14 AM Philip Pemberton wrote:
I've got a Dell AT102W - proper keyswitches (Alps
IIRC), plenty of metal
inside, a lovely "clack" when a key gets pushed... and laser-etched
keycaps
:)
These keyboards, BTW, also go by the part number "093GDJ". I'd buy another
My old NCR/Cherry keyboards are worn so much that you can see depressions
worn the space bar where my thumbs rest, but the keytops are otherwise
intact. Same with my IBM model M's and the Wang rebrands.
Does anyone remember when one of the supplies retailers (CDW, Inmac?)
shipped customers a small cardboard box ith a red keytop in it labeled
"Panic"? Those are double shot molded and fit a Cherry keyboard perfectly.
At one time Keytronics made some nice keyboards, but that was a LONG time
ago. After the Honeywell acquisition, they started turning out junk.
I was just surprised that a relatively minor fabrication step that one used
to take for granted had been quietly done away with.
Okay, does anyone sell add-on volume controls and "mute" and
"standby"
buttons that will work with a model M? I don't need no stinkin' Windoze
key, but I like the volume control knob--and the "mute" is useful also.
Cheers,
Chuck
8:10 a.m.
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:52:35 -0800
"Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
I was looking at a not-very-old HP keyboard today and
noticed
that the lettering on the keys is wearing away after only a few
years of use.
Another corner quietly cut, I suppose.
Used to be that keytops were double-shot molded, with the
lettering all but indestructible. Is this a practice that's
gone forever, or is there still a vendor who makes keyboards the
old way?
Personally, I am hoping there is a hardware firm
("Carly-Packturd") that will cease to exist in that form (we want
the real 'Hewlett-Packard' back, and NOW!) and that all the other
keyboard vendors will continue doing keycaps the old way.
20 Dec
20 Dec
11:16 a.m.
Rumor has it that Chuck Guzis may have mentioned these words:
Used to be that keytops were double-shot molded, with
the lettering all but
indestructible. Is this a practice that's gone forever, or is there still
a vendor who makes keyboards the old way?
Just depends on how much you want to spend!
http://www.clickykeyboards.com/
or if you want a "J-Stick" on it, too...
http://www.pckeyboard.com/onthestk.html
They can still be had, but they're not cheap.
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
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11:39 a.m.
On 12/20/2005 at 2:16 PM Roger Merchberger wrote:
http://www.clickykeyboards.com/
They can still be had, but they're not cheap.
Heck, I've got a few model M's and they still work just fine. I've even
got a couple of rebrands that the clickykeyboards don't have--Wang.
What I wanted to know is what NEW keyboard is well-made with double-shot
keytops?
Where does one put the scroll wheel on the "J-stick"? :) That little
addition to the standard mouse has really cut down on a lot of pain for
me--that, and learning to be ambidextrous with a mouse--most of the time, I
use it with my left hand, even though I'm right-handed.
Cheers,
Chuck
7:28 p.m.
Roger Merchberger wrote:
They can still be had, but they're not cheap.
Occaisionally someone on ebay will let a Model M go for very very cheap with a
Buy It Now price -- watch for those. The ones with the trackpoint in the
middle are hard to come by, though.
Then again, the $150 price for those NIB are worth it -- what device do you use
the most on any computer? My model Ms are nearly 20 years old and flawless,
I'd gladly pay $150 to get another if I needed it.
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7:35 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Leonard" <trixter at oldskool.org>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: When did double-shot keytops disappear?
Roger Merchberger wrote:
with a
They can still be had, but they're not cheap.
Occaisionally someone on ebay will let a Model M go for very very cheap Buy It Now price -- watch for those. The ones with
the trackpoint in the
middle are hard to come by, though.
Then again, the $150 price for those NIB are worth it -- what device do
you use
the most on any computer? My model Ms are nearly 20
years old and
flawless,
I'd gladly pay $150 to get another if I needed
it.
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Besides the IBM model M and the Northgates, what other keyboards were built
like tanks?
9:28 p.m.
Jim Leonard declared on Tuesday 20 December 2005 22:28:
Roger Merchberger wrote:
If you don't mind used (I've never seen a broken Model M.. it's hard to
break one even if you're trying, though I have seen missing/broken
keycaps or missing/cut off cables), a friend of mine got a couple boxes
of them (probably 20+ keyboards) for $10 at a large-ish hamfest.
There's absolutely no reason to spend $150 on a "NIB" one off ebay IMO,
unless you've got that much cash to burn... the small amount of time it
takes to clean them to a satisfactory level isn't worth nearly that
much, unless you get paid Enron CEO wages. :)
As to the durability of them... I've had Model M's I had laying around
survive hammer blows and my foot stomping on the keys on them. (yes, I
really have that many... the ones I did that to were missing some of the
keycaps).
Pat
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They can still be had, but they're not cheap.
Occaisionally someone on ebay will let a Model M go for very very
cheap with a Buy It Now price -- watch for those. The ones with the
trackpoint in the middle are hard to come by, though.
Then again, the $150 price for those NIB are worth it -- what device
do you use the most on any computer? My model Ms are nearly 20 years
old and flawless, I'd gladly pay $150 to get another if I needed it.
21 Dec
21 Dec
10:19 a.m.
Patrick Finnegan wrote:
keycaps or missing/cut off cables), a friend of mine
got a couple boxes
of them (probably 20+ keyboards) for $10 at a large-ish hamfest.
No flea markets or hamfests in my area, sadly.
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10:39 a.m.
New subject: flea markets & hamfests (was: When did double-shot keytops disappear?)
In article <43A99CB1.8020201 at oldskool.org>,
Jim Leonard <trixter at oldskool.org> writes:
Patrick Finnegan wrote:
Same here. It seems that the best opportunities for vintage computing
stuff via flea markets and hamfests are limited to places like the mid
atlantic and the bay area.
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keycaps or missing/cut off cables), a friend of
mine got a couple boxes
of them (probably 20+ keyboards) for $10 at a large-ish hamfest.
No flea markets or hamfests in my area, sadly.
11:53 a.m.
New subject: flea markets & hamfests (was: When did double-shot keytops disappear?)
Richard declared on Wednesday 21 December 2005 13:39:
In article <43A99CB1.8020201 at oldskool.org>,
Jim Leonard <trixter at oldskool.org> writes:
Like the Dayton, OH "hamvention", or the Fort Wayne, Indiana hamfest,
where the keyboards came from. Oh wait you didn't say "midwest". :)
Or, you could ask the list if anyone has some for sale, and I'm sure you
could find "someone" willing to sell you one for $10 or so.
Pat
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Patrick Finnegan wrote:
Same here. It seems that the best opportunities for vintage computing
stuff via flea markets and hamfests are limited to places like the mid
atlantic and the bay area. keycaps or missing/cut off cables), a friend of
mine got a couple
boxes of them (probably 20+ keyboards) for $10 at a large-ish
hamfest.
No flea markets or hamfests in my area, sadly.
1:24 p.m.
New subject: flea markets & hamfests (was: When did double-shot keytops disappear?)
Patrick Finnegan wrote:
Like the Dayton, OH "hamvention", or the
Fort Wayne, Indiana hamfest,
where the keyboards came from. Oh wait you didn't say "midwest". :)
Actually, I'm in SW Chicagoland, but Fort Wayne isn't close (meaning, if I have
to burn $20 in gas to get a $10 keyboard, something's not right ;-)
Or, you could ask the list if anyone has some for
sale, and I'm sure you
could find "someone" willing to sell you one for $10 or so.
I have plenty; I was just lamenting that there aren't any hamfests (or other
swap meets of this nature) within an hour of me, and because of that, I see no
problem paying $150 for something I'd use for 20 years.
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1:52 p.m.
New subject: flea markets & hamfests (was: When did double-shot keytops disappear? )
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 16:24, Jim Leonard wrote:
I guess. I'm just pointing out there's cheaper places to get them, and
it's silly... well idiotic in my opinion... to pay significantly more
than than you need to for something (unless it's otherwise special or
unique, like a prototype or something). Model M's aren't all that
uncommon either, I see them go through Purdue's salvage OP, probably a
few per month. Most of those get tossed in the dumpster, partly
because I have a few times more Model M's than I have computers to use
them on at this point. :)
Would you pay 15 times the going used rate to get a new (or NOS) version
of anything else that is as indestructible as a model M? :)
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Patrick Finnegan wrote:
Fort wayne is probaby just as close for you as for me - it's a 2-2.5hr
drive from here. Going there once a year is *definately* worthwhile,
there's always something interesting and worth the time to drive there,
though it may not be what you went to get.
I've spent $150 in gas to pick up a $10 computer and not regretted it...
of course, that was a computer I paid $10 for, not something that was
worth $10 to me. (IBM ES/9000 9121-191, 9343 disk array, and 3270
terminal muxes. Also ended up getting ST fiber junction boxes, and 24
port CAT5e patch panels for $5 each, or less.)
Like the Dayton, OH "hamvention", or
the Fort Wayne, Indiana
hamfest, where the keyboards came from. Oh wait you didn't say
"midwest". :)
Actually, I'm in SW Chicagoland, but Fort Wayne isn't close (meaning,
if I have to burn $20 in gas to get a $10 keyboard, something's not
right ;-) Or, you could
ask the list if anyone has some for sale, and I'm
sure you could find "someone" willing to sell you one for $10 or
so.
I have plenty; I was just lamenting that there aren't any hamfests
(or other swap meets of this nature) within an hour of me, and
because of that, I see no problem paying $150 for something I'd use
for 20 years.
8:17 p.m.
New subject: flea markets & hamfests
Patrick Finnegan wrote:
Fort wayne is probaby just as close for you as for me - it's a
2-2.5hr
Is this:
http://www.fortwaynehamfest.com/
...the hamfest we're talking about?
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Like the Dayton, OH "hamvention", or the Fort
Wayne, Indiana
Actually, I'm in SW Chicagoland, but Fort Wayne isn't close
(meaning,
9:13 p.m.
New subject: flea markets & hamfests
Jim Leonard declared on Wednesday 21 December 2005 23:17:
Patrick Finnegan wrote:
Fort wayne is probaby just as close for you as for me - it's a
2-2.5hr
Is this:
http://www.fortwaynehamfest.com/
...the hamfest we're talking about?
Yep.
Pat
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Like the Dayton, OH "hamvention", or the Fort
Wayne, Indiana
Actually, I'm in SW Chicagoland, but Fort Wayne isn't close
(meaning,
9:28 p.m.
New subject: flea markets & hamfests
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Finnegan" <pat at computer-refuge.org>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: flea markets & hamfests
Jim Leonard declared on Wednesday 21 December 2005
23:17:
I went to the Dayton Hamvention back in the 1990's and purchased a few
modern items like games and a whopping big new 540MB HD! While looking
around in the tent city fleemarket outside I seen a few bits of Amiga gear I
wish I had now. It was a decent drive from Youngstown, but it was worth
going.
Patrick Finnegan wrote:
Is this:
http://www.fortwaynehamfest.com/
...the hamfest we're talking about?
Yep.
Pat
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The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org >Like
the Dayton, OH "hamvention", or the Fort Wayne, Indiana
Actually, I'm in SW Chicagoland, but Fort Wayne isn't close
(meaning,
Fort wayne is probaby just as close for you as for me - it's a
2-2.5hr
1:25 p.m.
New subject: flea markets & hamfests (was: When did double-shot keytops disappear?)
In article <200512211453.40575.pat at computer-refuge.org>,
Patrick Finnegan <pat at computer-refuge.org> writes:
Richard declared on Wednesday 21 December 2005 13:39:
There just isn't the same urban density out in the western states with
the exception of the Pacific coastal megalopoli. The density in the
mid Atlantic and Great Lakes regions are significantly higher for
vintage computing equipment than the intermountain West in my experience.
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In article <43A99CB1.8020201 at
oldskool.org>,
Jim Leonard <trixter at oldskool.org> writes:
Like the Dayton, OH "hamvention", or the Fort Wayne, Indiana hamfest,
where the keyboards came from. Oh wait you didn't say "midwest". :)
Patrick Finnegan wrote:
Same here. It seems that the best opportunities for vintage computing
stuff via flea markets and hamfests are limited to places like the mid
atlantic and the bay area. keycaps or missing/cut off cables), a friend of
mine got a couple
boxes of them (probably 20+ keyboards) for $10 at a large-ish
hamfest.
No flea markets or hamfests in my area, sadly.
1:41 p.m.
New subject: flea markets & hamfests (was: When did double-shot keytops disappear?)
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 16:25, Richard wrote:
In article <200512211453.40575.pat at
computer-refuge.org>,
Patrick Finnegan <pat at computer-refuge.org> writes:
Then perhaps you should move somewhere that has more vintage
computers. ;-)
Pat
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Richard declared on Wednesday 21 December 2005
13:39:
There just isn't the same urban density out in the western states
with the exception of the Pacific coastal megalopoli. The density in
the mid Atlantic and Great Lakes regions are significantly higher for
vintage computing equipment than the intermountain West in my
experience. In article <43A99CB1.8020201 at
oldskool.org>,
Jim Leonard <trixter at oldskool.org> writes:
Like the Dayton, OH "hamvention", or the Fort Wayne, Indiana
hamfest, where the keyboards came from. Oh wait you didn't say
"midwest". :) Patrick Finnegan wrote:
> keycaps or missing/cut off cables), a friend of mine got a
> couple boxes of them (probably 20+ keyboards) for $10 at a
> large-ish hamfest.
No flea markets or hamfests in my area, sadly.
Same here. It seems that the best opportunities for vintage
computing stuff via flea markets and hamfests are limited to
places like the mid atlantic and the bay area.
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philpem＠dsl.pipex.com -
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spc＠conman.org -
teoz＠neo.rr.com -
trixter＠oldskool.org -
zmerch＠30below.com