Collection transport costs (was Re: Would You Pay $200,000 for an Original Apple Computer?)
12 Nov
2010
12 Nov
'10
5:04 p.m.
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Teo Zenios <teoz at neo.rr.com> wrote:
Nearly all of my heavy DEC stuff came from The Ohio State University
or businesses around Columbus. I did drive to Dayton once for an
11/750, but I've gotten no item larger than an RL01 or PDP-8/a or
VT-52 from out of state. There was the time I ordered an LA-180, but
I used a "free shipping on your next order" from Newman Computer
Exchange to order that - it came strapped down to a pallet via van
freight from MI, right to my front door. I did use it for consulting
work later (on a locally-sourced 11/23), but at the time, I picked the
heaviest thing for my PDP-8/a that I thought I'd be likely to want.
So I've spent a few hundred on renting lift-gate trucks and such over
the past thirty years, but even a double-H960 PDP-11/34 setup w/drives
and software and docs fit in the back of my 1976 Microbus with room up
front for a passenger/loadie.
I'm sure someone who collects IBM iron has an entirely different story to tell.
-ethan
Over a period
of 10 years, its not hard to sink $20K into shipping
fees alone when you collect stuff that needs to be shipped freight.
Sure if you collect large machines and have them shipped cross country. Most
of the heavy items I have are local pickups... 
12 Nov
12 Nov
5:21 p.m.
New subject: Collection transport costs (was Re: Would You Pay $200,000 for an Original Apple Computer?)
Ethan Dicks wrote:
So I've spent a few hundred on renting lift-gate
trucks and such over
the past thirty years, but even a double-H960 PDP-11/34 setup w/drives
and software and docs fit in the back of my 1976 Microbus with room up
front for a passenger/loadie.
Well, all the stuff I've collected personally has been small enough to fit in
a car - but it was all done with UK fuel prices. I bet I've spent around $5000
on transport costs.
I bet I'm going to double that next year in freight costs when I move the
collection over to the US, too :-(
cheers
Jules
5:21 p.m.
New subject: Collection transport costs (was Re: Would You Pay $200,000 for an Original Apple Computer?)
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On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Teo Zenios <teoz at neo.rr.com> wrote:
country. Most
I had wanted a Mercedes-Benz 450SL for years, and I came across one in very nice condition
so I bought it. Then I realized that the SL is possibly the most impractical car ever
built. It's a two-seat roadster (my family of 3 won't fit in it) with a trunk big
enough for one, perhaps two sets of golf clubs.
I bought a PDP-11/20 from another collector and we met to exchange money and goods. He
had crated the machine beautifully, but the crate wouldn't fit in the trunk of the SL.
We uncrated it - as rain began to fall! - and it just barely fit. (Otherwise it was
going in the passenger seat, damn the upholstery.)
I've purchased a Ford F-150 with a full-size bed, and the Mercedes is for sale.... --
Ian
Over a
period of 10 years, its not hard to sink $20K into shipping
fees alone when you collect stuff that needs to be shipped freight.
Sure if you collect large machines and have them shipped cross of the heavy items I have are local pickups...
Nearly all of my heavy DEC stuff came from The Ohio State University
or businesses around Columbus. I did drive to Dayton once for an
11/750, but I've gotten no item larger than an RL01 or PDP-8/a or
VT-52 from out of state. There was the time I ordered an LA-180, but
I used a "free shipping on your next order" from Newman Computer
Exchange to order that - it came strapped down to a pallet via van
freight from MI, right to my front door. I did use it for consulting
work later (on a locally-sourced 11/23), but at the time, I picked the
heaviest thing for my PDP-8/a that I thought I'd be likely to want.
So I've spent a few hundred on renting lift-gate trucks and such over
the past thirty years, but even a double-H960 PDP-11/34 setup w/drives
and software and docs fit in the back of my 1976 Microbus with room up
front for a passenger/loadie.
I'm sure someone who collects IBM iron has an entirely different story
to tell.
-ethan
6:02 p.m.
New subject: Collection transport costs (was Re: Would You Pay $200,000 for an Original Apple Computer?)
Ian King wrote:
Nice. I did the same with a pair of Triumphs - neither big enough to be a
tourer or really small enough to be a sports car, and the same issue with the
trunk (although at least they were four-seaters, just). More inherent design
problems than you could shake a stick at, too - but I regret not having them
still :-(
So I've
spent a few hundred on renting lift-gate trucks and such over the
past thirty years, but even a double-H960 PDP-11/34 setup w/drives and
software and docs fit in the back of my 1976 Microbus with room up front
for a passenger/loadie.
I had wanted a Mercedes-Benz 450SL for years, and I came across one in very
nice condition so I bought it. Then I realized that the SL is possibly the
most impractical car ever built. It's a two-seat roadster (my family of 3
won't fit in it) with a trunk big enough for one, perhaps two sets of golf
clubs. I've purchased a Ford F-150 with a full-size bed,
and the Mercedes is for
sale.... -- Ian
I used common sense this time around and bought a 1960's Ford truck with an 8'
load bed ;-)
cheers
Jules
5:26 p.m.
New subject: Collection transport costs (was Re: Would You Pay $200, 000 for an Original Apple Computer?)
In article <AANLkTinO4em8wfUfTXtpyVD_j5v=9ztxpDwZtfsbcAor at mail.gmail.com>,
Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> writes:
Nearly all of my heavy DEC stuff came from The Ohio
State University
or businesses around Columbus. [...]
Once again, I remind list members that not everyone lives next door to
a vintage bonanza.
If I hear one more story about some guy who lives next to DEC in MA
talking about how VT100s aren't worth any money because he used to trip
over them on curb every week 10 years ago, I'm going postal.
There ain't diddly in Salt Lake City for vintage gear, really. Well,
there's one grumpy Tektronix dealer who charges outrageous prices and
then after six months still hasn't shipped you the stuff you paid for.
There's University of Utah surplus, but they have better bargains on
charis than they do on computers.
That means UPS and freight shipping are what it takes to amass a
collection unless you're only interested in 2yr. old IBM-PC compatible
gear.
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7:47 p.m.
New subject: Collection transport costs (was Re: Would You Pay $200, 000 for an Original Apple Computer?)
I once drove from near the northeast tip of illinois to purdude indiana
(whole other timezone-I think that caused some confusion) just to pick up an
sgi octane and avoid shipping costs on the 75 lb monster..
On Nov 12, 2010 4:05 PM, "Ethan Dicks" <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
tell.
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Teo Zenios <teoz
at neo.rr.com> wrote:
>> Over a period of 10 years, its not hard to sink $20K into shipping
>> fees alone when you collect stuff that needs to be shipped freight.
>
> Sure if you collect large machines and have them shipped cross country.
Most
of the heavy
items I have are local pickups...
Nearly all of my heavy DEC stuff came from The Ohio State University
or businesses around Columbus. I did drive to Dayton once for an
11/750, but I've gotten no item larger than an RL01 or PDP-8/a or
VT-52 from out of state. There was the time I ordered an LA-180, but
I used a "free shipping on your next order" from Newman Computer
Exchange to order that - it came strapped down to a pallet via van
freight from MI, right to my front door. I did use it for consulting
work later (on a locally-sourced 11/23), but at the time, I picked the
heaviest thing for my PDP-8/a that I thought I'd be likely to want.
So I've spent a few hundred on renting lift-gate trucks and such over
the past thirty years, but even a double-H960 PDP-11/34 setup w/drives
and software and docs fit in the back of my 1976 Microbus with room up
front for a passenger/loadie.
I'm sure someone who collects IBM iron has an entirely different story to
-ethan
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