15 Apr
2007
15 Apr
'07
2:46 p.m.
Compared to what DRMS used to make before govliquidation, all I can say
is I'll bet they're getting a lot more now...
My internal calculation goes something like this: plan on $100 per item
for S&H by an external agent. I've had both good and bad experiences.
Anything is possible with money. And you'll probably get something you
don't want.
If it weren't for the S&H, the deals would be phenomenal.
15 Apr
15 Apr
4:17 p.m.
North American Van Lines is pretty decent on their pricing most of the
time, they also are very good at handling open/loose items (I had an HP
Designjet 2500CP shipped to me with just a shipping blanket over it and
they treated it with kid gloves.)
Craters & Freighters are totally rip-off artists, avoid!
The other thing to do is ask around, seems a lot of people make runs up
down the East Coast and Cross Country picking up/delivering Vintage
Computer equipment and also look into the Classic Arcade Shippers as
I've used them often to pick up stuff - doesn't matter if its a Pinball
or a Honeywell - if they can bring it onto their trucks they'll do it
for you, and generally a heck of a lot less then commercial freighters.
Curt
Mark KAHRS wrote:
Compared to what DRMS used to make before
govliquidation, all I can say
is I'll bet they're getting a lot more now...
My internal calculation goes something like this: plan on $100 per item
for S&H by an external agent. I've had both good and bad experiences.
Anything is possible with money. And you'll probably get something you
don't want.
If it weren't for the S&H, the deals would be phenomenal.
4:50 p.m.
In article <Pine.GSO.4.58.0704151443370.871 at caipclassic.rutgers.edu>,
Mark KAHRS <kahrs at caip.rutgers.edu> writes:
If it weren't for the S&H, the deals would be
phenomenal.
It depends on what you're looking at of course. Usually a good item
is lumped in with crap you don't want. Ask a shipping agent if
there's a possibility that they could just haul certain items to the
local dump if you know you don't want them.
The best is if you can find items that are local to you. That's what
I've bought in the past, to avoid shipping hassles, but honestly its
usually just the case that the stuff I want is in the middle of 18
pallets of stuff at a remote location.
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6:04 p.m.
Richard wrote...
The best is if you can find items that are local to
you. That's what
I've bought in the past, to avoid shipping hassles, but honestly its
usually just the case that the stuff I want is in the middle of 18
pallets of stuff at a remote location.
Then Richard is one of the comparatively few who live right next to a
govliquidation site.
To the 99.999% of the rest of us.... buying from govliq means paying a
fairly hefty amount of shipping, and you'll never know exactly what the
shipping costs are really till after the auction. Not reliably anyways.
I'm not knocking govliq... I like them and buy from them. But you just have
to be in the position to say "I'm willing to pay just about whatever the
shipping might be and agree to that beforehand without knowing the amount".
Sometimes - and also depending on the item - I'm in that category. Sometimes
I am not :) My experience is that govliq doesn't like to hassel around with
people trying to save a few bucks on shipping. They are used to commercial
buyers who aren't going to whine about every shipping dollar.
Jay
6:54 p.m.
One should also add that most of the "packer's" available through the
govliq web site treat ALL materials coming from these auctions as
scrap metal. Despite attempts to get "special handling" at several
locations (with offers to PAY EXTRA for it), the packing that
actually occurs is usually abysmal.
s shumaker
At 03:04 PM 4/15/2007, you wrote:
Richard wrote...
The best is if you can find items that are local
to you. That's what
I've bought in the past, to avoid shipping hassles, but honestly its
usually just the case that the stuff I want is in the middle of 18
pallets of stuff at a remote location.
Then Richard is one of the comparatively few who live right next to
a govliquidation site.
To the 99.999% of the rest of us.... buying from govliq means paying
a fairly hefty amount of shipping, and you'll never know exactly
what the shipping costs are really till after the auction. Not
reliably anyways.
I'm not knocking govliq... I like them and buy from them. But you
just have to be in the position to say "I'm willing to pay just
about whatever the shipping might be and agree to that beforehand
without knowing the amount". Sometimes - and also depending on the
item - I'm in that category. Sometimes I am not :) My experience is
that govliq doesn't like to hassel around with people trying to save
a few bucks on shipping. They are used to commercial buyers who
aren't going to whine about every shipping dollar.
Jay
16 Apr
16 Apr
12:27 p.m.
In article <200704152254.l3FMsG12093165 at keith.ezwind.net>,
Steve Shumaker <shumaker at att.net> writes:
One should also add that most of the
"packer's" available through the
govliq web site treat ALL materials coming from these auctions as
scrap metal.
Craters & Freighters most definately does not fall into that category.
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15 Apr
15 Apr
9:27 p.m.
On 4/15/07, Jay West <jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Richard wrote...
I was thinking about those RL02s in Columbus - they are minutes from my place.
-ethan
The best is if you can find items that are local
to you...
Then Richard is one of the comparatively few who live right next to a
govliquidation site. 
9:45 p.m.
Anyone have any idea what this equipment is?
http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=1181298&convertTo=USD
I'm not sure if "SYSTEMS MANAGEMENT AMERICAN CORPORATION" is the
manufacturer or just an integrator. Of course the pic is too blurry
to read most of the model #s. Looks like a pair of 8" floppies and
maybe a fixed disk?
10:01 p.m.
Here's another....crusty old ditto machine, a sink, smelly old
tent...whoa what's that terminal and rack??
http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=1191518&convertTo=USD
16 Apr
16 Apr
4:23 a.m.
Jason T wrote:
Here's another....crusty old ditto machine, a
sink, smelly old
tent...whoa what's that terminal and rack??
http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=1191518&convertTo=USD
Not quite.
The "tent" is a portable equipment shack, with cooling, it weighs about
3000+ Lbs. A company I worked for in a previous life used one as a
aircraft landing system base station The printing press look like
trash. I don't know what the rack system is. Though, If it's been in the
same (assumed) emvironment at the press, It's probably corroded junk.
Jim Davis.
That system has a lot of boat anchor attached to it.
3:05 p.m.
The "tent" is a portable equipment shack,
with cooling, it weighs about
3000+ Lbs. A company I worked for in a previous life used one as a
aircraft landing system base station The printing press look like
trash. I don't know what the rack system is. Though, If it's been in the
same (assumed) emvironment at the press, It's probably corroded junk.
That system has a lot of boat anchor attached to it.
Well I couldn't make the pictures get larger. However this is a mobile
print shop , I think for printing topographic images. Put it on the
back of your flatbed truck for moving.
The press is far from a boat anchor. I resell presses and this one has
some value. The paper cutter behind it is a nice electric operated
paper cutter, probably the most value with the exception of the shack.
The Typesetter looks like it might be a Linotronic and some models
still have value and can be driven my modern computers and RIPs.
If this were close I would bid on it. but that is because I come from
a printing environment and could sell the guts.
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USA
3:34 p.m.
On Sunday 15 April 2007 22:01, Jason T wrote:
Here's another....crusty old ditto machine, a
sink, smelly old
tent...whoa what's that terminal and rack??
http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=1191518&convertTo=USD
That looks an AT&T (aka Teletype) 5620 terminal.
Pat
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6:29 p.m.
On 4/16/07, Patrick Finnegan <pat at computer-refuge.org> wrote:
That looks an AT&T (aka Teletype) 5620 terminal.
Pat
That was going to be my guess. I've got one with my AT&T 3B2 machine:
http://flickr.com/photos/chiclassiccomp/438086955/in/set-72157600033400926/
I believe they were made for them by NCR, no?
7:08 p.m.
On Monday 16 April 2007 18:29, Jason T wrote:
On 4/16/07, Patrick Finnegan <pat at
computer-refuge.org> wrote:
Nope, Teletype.
If you peel off the AT&T label on the front of the terminal, it
says "Teletype" underneath (did that to one of mine...).
Pat
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That looks an AT&T (aka Teletype) 5620 terminal.
Pat
That was going to be my guess. I've got one with my AT&T 3B2
machine:
http://flickr.com/photos/chiclassiccomp/438086955/in/set-721576000334
00926/
I believe they were made for them by NCR, no? 
15 Apr
15 Apr
10:27 p.m.
Jason T wrote:
Anyone have any idea what this equipment is?
http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=1181298&convertTo=USD
I'm not sure if "SYSTEMS MANAGEMENT AMERICAN CORPORATION" is the
manufacturer or just an integrator. Of course the pic is too blurry
to read most of the model #s. Looks like a pair of 8" floppies and
maybe a fixed disk?
My best guess on the label:
DISK MEMORY UNIT
something
100 TO 127 V AC 50 TO 60 HZ
SERIAL 007-A105
A UNIT OF DATA PROCESSING something
NAVAL SEA SYSTEMS COMMAND
SYSTEMS MEASUREMENT AMERICAN CORPORATION
NORFOLK, VA
CONTRACT N00024-82-C-6101
16 Apr
16 Apr
12:26 p.m.
In article <011e01c77faa$17bfc480$6700a8c0 at HPLAPTOP>,
"Jay West" <jwest at classiccmp.org> writes:
Richard wrote...
If a 1 hour drive is considered "right next to a govliquidation site",
then yes ;-)
I'm considering a drive up to an air force base on Montana. 8 hours
one way.
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The best is if you can find items that are local
to you. That's what
I've bought in the past, to avoid shipping hassles, but honestly its
usually just the case that the stuff I want is in the middle of 18
pallets of stuff at a remote location.
Then Richard is one of the comparatively few who live right next to a
govliquidation site. 
17 Apr
17 Apr
10:16 p.m.
Richard wrote:
If a 1 hour drive is considered "right next to a
govliquidation site",
then yes ;-)
I'm considering a drive up to an air force base on Montana. 8 hours
one way.
Jerome Fine replies:
Are you going to return the same day? I drove from
Toronto to Montreal and return about 10 years ago to
rescue an RK05 drive and some old packs.
Those RT-11 distributions were made available on an
RT-11 CD of old (prior to 1980) RT-11 distributions
which included up to V05.03 of RT-11 from 1985.
Sincerely yours,
Jerome Fine
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18 Apr
18 Apr
12:07 a.m.
In article <46257F6E.1090506 at compsys.to>,
"Jerome H. Fine" <jhfinedp3k at compsys.to> writes:
Probably not. There are some weird HP264x-like terminals up there:
<http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=1198770&convertTo=USD>
<http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=1198771&convertTo=USD>
The details on these lots say that the items originate with Boeing,
but damn if that doesn't look like s 264x keyboard and monitor with a
modified enclosure. It looks like they either replaced the base
enclosure with their own or put some sort of different front on it.
At any rate, they look really weird, making them nice to collect :).
If I bid on them and if I win them, then I would probably not do it
all in one go. I'd probably combine it with a weekend of camping.
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Richard wrote:
I'm considering a drive up to an air force
base on Montana. 8 hours
one way.
Are you going to return the same day? [...]
15 Apr
15 Apr
5:49 p.m.
On 4/15/07, Mark KAHRS <kahrs at caip.rutgers.edu> wrote:
Compared to what DRMS used to make before
govliquidation, all I can say
is I'll bet they're getting a lot more now...
Great Lakes Naval Station is
my nearest location. I attended one of
their DRMO auctions way back before they started their internet
operation. It was minimal hassle then, although as with any auction
you did have to take the whole lot, junk and all.
My internal calculation goes something like this: plan
on $100 per item
for S&H by an external agent. I've had both good and bad experiences.
Anything is possible with money. And you'll probably get something you
don't want.
I'm figuring on sticking to local pickup (with the potential of
driving within a state's range to other facilities) unless there's
something incredibly cool that hasn't been claimed by others on this
list :)
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