20 May
2021
20 May
'21
10:15 a.m.
What sort of mice does a VAXstation 4000 (vlc/60/90) take? I?m pretty sure they don?t
need a DEC ?hockey puck? mouse.
I?m trying to get a VAXstation setup as? A VAXstation! I?ve always run them headless,
usually with SBB?s in a BA353 or BA350.
Zane
20 May
20 May
10:22 a.m.
On Thursday, May 20, 2021, 10:16:03 AM PDT, Zane Healy via cctalk <cctalk at
classiccmp.org> wrote:
. What sort of mice does a VAXstation 4000 (vlc/60/90)
take?? I?m pretty sure they don?t need a DEC ?hockey puck? mouse.
It does indeed need a VSXXX-AA mouse (the round puck) or a VSXXX-AB tablet (or
compatible). \
I recently checked both installation guide and service guide, whilst looking at eBay
offerings.
10:39 a.m.
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 05:22:05PM +0000, Jonathan Stone via cctalk wrote:
On Thursday, May 20, 2021, 10:16:03 AM PDT, Zane Healy
via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
The VSXXX-GA mouse or VSXXX-AB tablet is the correct model for the 4000
series, but the older puck mouse (VSXXX-AA) will work as well.
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Malte Dehling
<mdehling at gmail.com>
What sort of mice does a VAXstation 4000
(vlc/60/90) take?? I?m
pretty sure they don?t need a DEC ?hockey puck? mouse.
It does indeed need a VSXXX-AA mouse (the round puck) or a VSXXX-AB
tablet (or compatible). \ I recently checked both installation guide
and service guide, whilst looking at eBay offerings.
10:58 a.m.
On Thursday, May 20, 2021, 10:38:56 AM PDT, Malte Dehling via cctalk <cctalk at
classiccmp.org> wrote:
The VSXXX-GA mouse or VSXXX-AB tablet is the correct
model for the 4000
series, but the older puck mouse (VSXXX-AA) will work as well.
Exactly, since the -GA is compatible with the -AA. And the MoseTrack model M5 DEC
trackball should work too, if you can find one in working condition. The Service Guide
really does say "VSXXX-AA mouse or VSXXX-AB tablet"
EK-V48VB-SV.001, p. 1-1.
I've never owned a VLC, so I don't know what was actually delivered. I can't
find EK-VAXVL-OG.
1:03 p.m.
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 05:58:22PM +0000, Jonathan Stone wrote:
On Thursday, May 20, 2021, 10:38:56 AM PDT, Malte Dehling via cctalk <cctalk at
classiccmp.org> wrote:
Interesting. I looked it up in the "VAXstation 4000 Model 60 and VLC
Condensed Service Information" (EK-V466H-PS.A01), and on page D-4 (for
the Model 60) and page D-8 (for the VLC) it lists the VSXXX-GA (and the
tablet, but only for the Model 60,) but not the VSXXX-AA :-)
The VSXXX-GA mouse or VSXXX-AB tablet is the
correct model for the 4000
series, but the older puck mouse (VSXXX-AA) will work as well.
Exactly, since the -GA is compatible with the -AA. And the MoseTrack
model M5 DEC trackball should work too, if you can find one in working
condition. The Service Guide really does say "VSXXX-AA mouse or
VSXXX-AB tablet" EK-V48VB-SV.001, p. 1-1. I've never owned a VLC, so I don't know what
was actually delivered. I
can't find EK-VAXVL-OG.
Neither do I.
--
Malte Dehling
<mdehling at gmail.com>
11:53 a.m.
On 20/05/2021 18:22, Jonathan Stone via cctalk wrote:
It does indeed need a VSXXX-AA mouse (the round puck)
or a VSXXX-AB
tablet (or compatible). \
I recently checked both installation guide and service guide, whilst looking at eBay
offerings.
I recently went through my DEC mice to test them (so I can create eBay
offerings for the spares!) and all the -AA, -GA (and one other that
escapes me right now) tested OK on a VS4000-60. At least one of those
was originally used on my VAXstation 3100-M76.
If it looks like "that" sort of connector and it is a VSXXX-xx then I do
suspect that it will work in any VAXstation up to and including the
VAXstation 4000-96. In fact I recently sold one (privately) for use on a
VAXstation II.
I think those mice will also work on the DECstation 2100/3100/5000 range
, except for the Personal versions. You may need an adapter though.
They (I think) even work in the early Alpha workstations (the DEC 3000
stuff); I don't think DEC switched to PS/2 mice until the AlphaStation
name came out.
Antonio
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Antonio Carlini
antonio at acarlini.com
noon
On Thursday, May 20, 2021, 11:53:50 AM PDT, Antonio Carlini via cctalk <cctalk at
classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 20/05/2021 18:22, Jonathan Stone via cctalk wrote:
It does indeed need a VSXXX-AA mouse (the round puck)
or a VSXXX-AB
tablet (or compatible). \
I recently checked both installation guide and service guide, whilst looking at eBay
offerings.
I recently went through my DEC mice to test them (so I
can create eBay
offerings for the spares!) and all the -AA, -GA (and one other that
escapes me right now) tested OK on a VS4000-60. At least one of those
was originally used on my VAXstation 3100-M76.
If it looks like "that" sort of connector
and it is a VSXXX-xx then I do
suspect that it will work in any VAXstation up to and including the
VAXstation 4000-96. In fact I recently sold one (privately) for use on a
VAXstation II.
Agreed.
I think those mice will also work on the DECstation
2100/3100/5000 range
except for the Personal versions. You may need an adapter though
They do. No adapter needed, aside from the 15-pin to LK201/min-DIN cable.
(A Vaxstation II or DECstation 3100/2100 cable will work; just ignore the BNC).
They (I think) even work in the early Alpha
workstations (the DEC 3000
stuff); I don't think DEC switched to PS/2 mice until the AlphaStation
name came out.
They do work on Turbochannel Alphas. I swapped an -AA mouse for a -GA, for a grad school
friend who spent a lot of time playing Xconq on an Alpha 3000/300. He said the round mouse
was better for gaming.
2:51 p.m.
On May 20, 2021, at 11:53 AM, Antonio Carlini via
cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 20/05/2021 18:22, Jonathan Stone via cctalk wrote:
That?s good news, I have one of the ?Hockey Pucks?, I think it came with my VAXstation
II/RC. It sounds like I?ll be going spelunking, as it happens I know exactly where the
mouse should be, unfortunately it?s in the hardest to reach section of the garage. Maybe
I?ll get lucky and find the monitor cable while I?m at it.
I can?t believe that I don?t seem to have an PS/2 mice handy, but I know a couple places
where they?re likely to be. I?m also looking at bringing up one of my AlphaStations as a
workstation.
I think I still have a DECstation 5000, but am not too sure. I?d picked it up 20 some
years ago, with the idea of running NetBSD on it.
Zane
It does indeed need a VSXXX-AA mouse (the round
puck) or a VSXXX-AB tablet (or compatible). \
I recently checked both installation guide and service guide, whilst looking at eBay
offerings.
I recently went through my DEC mice to test them (so I can create eBay offerings for the
spares!) and all the -AA, -GA (and one other that escapes me right now) tested OK on a
VS4000-60. At least one of those was originally used on my VAXstation 3100-M76.
If it looks like "that" sort of connector and it is a VSXXX-xx then I do
suspect that it will work in any VAXstation up to and including the VAXstation 4000-96. In
fact I recently sold one (privately) for use on a VAXstation II.
I think those mice will also work on the DECstation 2100/3100/5000 range , except for the
Personal versions. You may need an adapter though.
They (I think) even work in the early Alpha workstations (the DEC 3000 stuff); I
don't think DEC switched to PS/2 mice until the AlphaStation name came out. 
20 May
20 May
10:57 a.m.
Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
What sort of mice does a VAXstation 4000 (vlc/60/90)
take? I?m pretty sure they don?t need a DEC ?hockey puck? mouse.
I?m trying to get a VAXstation setup as? A VAXstation! I?ve always run them headless,
usually with SBB?s in a BA353 or BA350.
IIRC, I used a three-button VSXXX-GA with my
4000/60 when I was using it
with a monitor. Then the monitor died and haven't had the time to fix
it; since then, it is running headless.
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