18 Apr
2013
18 Apr
'13
5:33 p.m.
I have some boxes of Tektronix paper rolls and I have no idea where
they were used. The rolls are 8.5-inches wide and have a diameter of
3.25-inches. They are packed 6 to a box and I have around six boxes
of these which are all sealed except for one. I can't find any
obvious part numbers anywhere. The boxes say Made in Japan and have
JAL Cargo stickers on them and were shipped to PDX. These might date
back to somewhere in the 1980's. They came along with some Tektronix
4170 systems I picked up a while back.
Anyone know what equipment would have used these rolls? Are they most
likely thermal, or something else? Anyone have a use for these? Would
they still be suitable for the original application after 25 years?
The boxes are a bit heavy if someone has a use for these and wants
them.
-Glen
18 Apr
18 Apr
7:30 p.m.
In article <CAM2UOwLhG9s_qP11Ez4TmzsVBsviKf7jcUykGy8SeX_7yQdduw at mail.gmail.com>,
Glen Slick <glen.slick at gmail.com> writes:
Anyone know what equipment would have used these
rolls? Are they most
likely thermal, or something else? Anyone have a use for these? Would
they still be suitable for the original application after 25 years?
The boxes are a bit heavy if someone has a use for these and wants
them.
They are most likely the special dry-print silver paper that was used
in the storage tube copier and video copier products:
<http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/5,18500>
<http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/5,16313>
The paper is only usable in those copiers. The paper is thermally
sensitive, but is not usable in typical thermal print-head type printers.
The paper is supposed to be stored in cool, dry conditions. Even when
new, the paper had a warranted shelf life of something like 18 months.
Bob Rosenbloom told me that he used some old paper and did some prints
and while the prints came out, they were not high contrast.
My plan was to replace this printer with a circuit that obtained the
image from the storage tube terminal directly and saved it as a
digitized file that you could print on an ordinary printer. I feel
this is a better long-term solution than trying to track down paper
of dubious utility for the printer. I happen to have a single unopened
roll for mine and I haven't bothered trying it, I obtained it mostly
for novelty/completeness purposes.
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10:40 p.m.
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
In article <CAM2UOwLhG9s_qP11Ez4TmzsVBsviKf7jcUykGy8SeX_7yQdduw at
mail.gmail.com>,
Glen Slick <glen.slick at gmail.com> writes:
Thanks Richard, I figure you would be a good source of info.
I took a quick look at those manuals. The photos show a cassette
assembly which appears to be larger than the 3.25-inch diameter rolls
that I have, plus it looks like the paper is contained inside a
metallic cassette and the manual mentions a metallic light seal strip.
I haven't unwrapped one of the rolls I have yet but they appear to be
simply paper rolls without any sort of cassette container.
-Glen
Anyone know what equipment would have used these
rolls? Are they most
likely thermal, or something else? Anyone have a use for these? Would
they still be suitable for the original application after 25 years?
The boxes are a bit heavy if someone has a use for these and wants
them.
They are most likely the special dry-print silver paper that was used
in the storage tube copier and video copier products:
<http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/5,18500>
<http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/5,16313> 
19 Apr
19 Apr
2:43 a.m.
On 4/18/2013 2:40 PM, Glen Slick wrote:
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Richard <legalize
at xmission.com> wrote:
Once you get one open, the material on the fax type paper will be sort
of chalky in nature. Some of the papers use other treated paper too.
I agree with you the silver paper used by the Tek printers was in a
larger roll, and was light sensitive, so had the canister.
did you say that the boxes and material were badged with Tek logos, or
just pile in the shipment of some stuff you got? I recently had a job
where they chucked a case of regular fax paper, which is the size you
describe and I dug it out of the trash and brought it home to use with
my silent 700's.
Jim
In article
<CAM2UOwLhG9s_qP11Ez4TmzsVBsviKf7jcUykGy8SeX_7yQdduw at mail.gmail.com>,
Glen Slick <glen.slick at gmail.com> writes:
Thanks Richard, I figure
you would be a good source of info.
I took a quick look at those manuals. The photos show a cassette
assembly which appears to be larger than the 3.25-inch diameter rolls
that I have, plus it looks like the paper is contained inside a
metallic cassette and the manual mentions a metallic light seal strip.
I haven't unwrapped one of the rolls I have yet but they appear to be
simply paper rolls without any sort of cassette container.
-Glen
Anyone know what equipment would have used these
rolls? Are they most
likely thermal, or something else? Anyone have a use for these? Would
they still be suitable for the original application after 25 years?
The boxes are a bit heavy if someone has a use for these and wants
them.
They are most likely the special dry-print silver paper that was used
in the storage tube copier and video copier products:
<http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/5,18500>
<http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/5,16313> 
5:12 a.m.
Hit a piece with a match or a soldering iron to see if it is thermal
printer paper.
If not it could be electrographic paper for the Tektronix 4611 and 4612
printers. The 4612 did video screen dumps. The 3 1/2 inch diameter is
similar to what this printer uses.
The silver paper cassette is much larger in diameter, more like 6 inches
and is really a cassette enclosing light sensitive paper.
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Glen Slick <glen.slick at gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Richard <legalize
at xmission.com> wrote:
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Astoria, OR
USA
In article <
CAM2UOwLhG9s_qP11Ez4TmzsVBsviKf7jcUykGy8SeX_7yQdduw at
mail.gmail.com>,
Glen Slick <glen.slick at gmail.com>
writes:
Thanks Richard, I figure you would be a good source of info.
I took a quick look at those manuals. The photos show a cassette
assembly which appears to be larger than the 3.25-inch diameter rolls
that I have, plus it looks like the paper is contained inside a
metallic cassette and the manual mentions a metallic light seal strip.
I haven't unwrapped one of the rolls I have yet but they appear to be
simply paper rolls without any sort of cassette container.
-Glen
Anyone know what equipment would have used these
rolls? Are they most
likely thermal, or something else? Anyone have a use for these? Would
they still be suitable for the original application after 25 years?
The boxes are a bit heavy if someone has a use for these and wants
them.
They are most likely the special dry-print silver paper that was used
in the storage tube copier and video copier products:
<http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/5,18500>
<http://manx.classiccmp.org/details.php/5,16313>
2:40 p.m.
In article <CAM2UOw++V8niUiP=M_8PNYbmrjg4R2h_NY1rE7e8xLCrBezamw at mail.gmail.com>,
Glen Slick <glen.slick at gmail.com> writes:
I took a quick look at those manuals. The photos show
a cassette
assembly which appears to be larger than the 3.25-inch diameter rolls
that I have, plus it looks like the paper is contained inside a
metallic cassette and the manual mentions a metallic light seal strip.
I haven't unwrapped one of the rolls I have yet but they appear to be
simply paper rolls without any sort of cassette container.
The one I have is basically a cardboard cylinder with the metallic
strip light seal intact that you mention above.
Tektronix made a number of image copiers and printers over the years.
From other replies on the thread, it sounds like this
could be the
paper for the 4611 or 4612 hard copy unit:
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/390111197456>
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2:52 p.m.
From the 1982 catalog where these were marked
"new":
4611 Hard Copy Unit
Paper -- one case of two rolls Tek part number 006-2838-00
Rolls are 8.5" by 500 ft.
Toner -- one bottle Tek part number 006-2990-00
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10 a.m.
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013, Richard wrote:
In article
<CAM2UOwLhG9s_qP11Ez4TmzsVBsviKf7jcUykGy8SeX_7yQdduw at mail.gmail.com>,
Glen Slick <glen.slick at gmail.com> writes:
No, they are for the more modern Tektronix 46?? hard copy unit that uses
dry toner and a roll of electrostatic paper. We have one of those units,
but the paper feed roller belt is broken, and I can't buy tooth belts with
40DP (0.0816") spacing in Europe. The modem MXL (0.08") belts don't fit.
Christian
Anyone know what equipment would have used these
rolls? Are they most
likely thermal, or something else? Anyone have a use for these? Would
they still be suitable for the original application after 25 years?
The boxes are a bit heavy if someone has a use for these and wants
them.
They are most likely the special dry-print silver paper that was used
in the storage tube copier and video copier products: 
18 Apr
18 Apr
8:29 p.m.
--- On Thu, 4/18/13, Glen Slick <glen.slick at gmail.com> wrote:
I have some boxes of Tektronix paper
rolls and I have no idea where
they were used.? The rolls are 8.5-inches wide and have
a diameter of
3.25-inches.?
These may be the dry-silver photo paper used in the hardcopy printer
for the Tektronix storage tube graphics displayes, e.g., 4010. The
stuff supposedly has a short shelf life, so it's likely not any good,
but if it is usable, I'm sure there are a few of us who could use it.
I have one of the printers and assumed I'd never see any paper for it.
--Bill
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