18 Jan
2007
18 Jan
'07
12:44 p.m.
My two items of low-denomination currency, anyway.
Which goes to everyone EXCEPT Sellam, since he
DOESN'T READ THE LIST!
I sent email to Jay asking that Sellam be banned from
posting.
I suggest others do as well.
18 Jan
18 Jan
12:53 p.m.
In article <45AFB20A.1090803 at bitsavers.org>,
Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> writes:
Well, that's Sellam's loss, not mine.
My two items
of low-denomination currency, anyway.
Which goes to everyone EXCEPT Sellam, since he
DOESN'T READ THE LIST! I sent email to Jay asking that Sellam be banned from
posting.
Eh. I couldn't care either way :-). If Sellam only wants to
occasionally drop by and kick the hornet's nest, I can see why Jay
might not approve his posts -- its my understanding that posts from
non subscribers await manual approval. Hoever, I've been here for a
year or so and this is the first hand grenade I've seen him toss into
the tent, so I don't think its out of line. I can delete messages I
don't like as long as it doesn't become a habit.
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12:58 p.m.
>>> I sent email to Jay asking that Sellam be
banned from posting .... I
suggest others do as well.
That's ridiculous. Sellam made an excellent point WHEN he left this list --
I'm paraphrasing, but he noted that at least 50% of the list traffic here is
just filler -- people says "me too" or whatever. That's not to say he
doesn't find this list useful; quite the opposite, that's why he does still
post here and thumbs through the archives now and then. Certainly we can
all identify with his frustration from that issue.
Jay: I'm not sure if this is already an option or not, but, does cctalk have
a "no emails" option so that people can still be members but not get all the
messages pushed to them? I suspect that a lot more people than just Sellam
would like that option. It's one of the best features of web-based groups.
(No, I'm not saying we should give up the email list and adopt a web group;
I'm just saying that is a handy feature.)
Usually when Sellam does post here, it's something constructive -- he rarely
asks for our help without offering something beneficial in return. Al, your
suggestion implies that Sellam posts critiques here and then runs and ducks
from cover by not being on the list. That isn't
the case. His points about
the VCM are all valid. The man just wants some
reassurance that his time
and hard work will be appreciated. What's wrong with that? More people in
our hobby should be that devoted!
- Evan
-----Original Message-----
From: Al Kossow [mailto:aek at bitsavers.org]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:45 PM
To: classiccmp at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Ebay idiocy
My two items of low-denomination currency, anyway.
Which goes to everyone EXCEPT Sellam, since he DOESN'T READ THE LIST!
I sent email to Jay asking that Sellam be banned from posting.
I suggest others do as well.
1:07 p.m.
In article <000801c73b2a$39f41070$6401a8c0 at DESKTOP>,
"Evan Koblentz" <evan at snarc.net> writes:
That's ridiculous. Sellam made an excellent point
WHEN he left this list --
I'm paraphrasing, but he noted that at least 50% of the list traffic here is
just filler -- people says "me too" or whatever. That's not to say he
doesn't find this list useful; quite the opposite, that's why he does still
post here and thumbs through the archives now and then. Certainly we can
all identify with his frustration from that issue.
While this is true, the statement is put out there as if this is the
only mailing list in the universe that has ever suffered this fate.
Chat mailing lists like this one are like bars/pubs. Sometimes the
conversation is on-topic and sometimes it wanders off and sometimes
people have had too much to drink and say things in the heat of the
moment :-).
Manage the volume anyway you want, but don't blame the list for it.
The phenomenon is intrinsic to the human condition, not this mailing
list.
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19 Jan
19 Jan
10:58 a.m.
I agree, based on the language used alone.
Also...
If your trying to compete with eBay, you had better offer
a superior product.
People will not switch to your product because YOU don't
like eBay.
eBay may have some issues, but they do offer services and
protections far beyond those on VCM.
But the real reason VCM cannot compete with eBay
(in my opinion) is exposure. eBay plays to a huge market.
VCM is very obscure.
This is NOT the fault of VCM users.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Kossow" <aek at bitsavers.org>
To: <classiccmp at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Ebay idiocy
My two items
of low-denomination currency, anyway.
Which goes to everyone EXCEPT Sellam, since he
DOESN'T READ THE LIST!
I sent email to Jay asking that Sellam be banned from
posting.
I suggest others do as well.
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