6 Jun
2007
6 Jun
'07
10:49 a.m.
I have 25 linear feet of old databooks. I've kept them partly out of
sentimentality and partly because I have to fix stuff of that era now
and then.
The data sheet archives I've seen on the web are woefully incomplete.
Does anyone know of anyone/anything that collects these?
6 Jun
6 Jun
11:10 a.m.
Mark KAHRS wrote:
I have 25 linear feet of old databooks. I've kept
them partly out of
sentimentality and partly because I have to fix stuff of that era now
and then.
The data sheet archives I've seen on the web are woefully incomplete.
Does anyone know of anyone/anything that collects these?
Yeah, me, for one! :)
I've got a few TI, Harris, Intersil and Inmos databooks (and the Dallas
Semiconductor product line guide and data CD - somewhere - including a bunch
of datasheets they recently made NDA-only). I'm also happy to scan and
email/upload any datasheets I have if people want/need them.
If you're planning to get rid of them, let me know where you are, what you've
got and how much you're wanting (assuming you want to sell them, that is).
I keep most of my databooks around because Datasheetarchive isn't particularly
complete (they do have the Signetics linear PROM datasheets including
programming specs though) and I tend to find/buy/receive boards and ICs for
which data is no longer available, often to the point where the original
manufacturer either no longer exists or denies that the IC in question was
ever made.
Thanks,
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11:43 a.m.
In article <4666CE76.8060202 at philpem.me.uk>,
Philip Pemberton <classiccmp at philpem.me.uk> writes:
Mark KAHRS wrote:
And if you need someone to become custodian of them on the US side of
the pond, I can do that. I have a large pile of data books from the
late 80s/early 90s, and even those are hard to find online.
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The data sheet archives I've seen on the web
are woefully incomplete.
Does anyone know of anyone/anything that collects these?
Yeah, me, for one! :) 
11:18 a.m.
I do but Im in the wrong country (UK)
Dave Caroline
On 6/6/07, Mark KAHRS <kahrs at caip.rutgers.edu> wrote:
I have 25 linear feet of old databooks. I've kept them partly out of
sentimentality and partly because I have to fix stuff of that era now
and then.
The data sheet archives I've seen on the web are woefully incomplete.
Does anyone know of anyone/anything that collects these?
1:46 p.m.
On Wednesday 06 June 2007 10:49, Mark KAHRS wrote:
I have 25 linear feet of old databooks. I've kept
them partly out of
sentimentality and partly because I have to fix stuff of that era now
and then.
The data sheet archives I've seen on the web are woefully incomplete.
Does anyone know of anyone/anything that collects these?
(Waving...)
I'm the one with the data sheet archives, too, which are by necessity a work
in progress. Contributions of datasheets in electronic form gladly accepted,
as are suggestions as to how I might improve the pages:
http://www.classiccmp.org/rtellason/parts-index.html
I also have lots of boxes of databooks on hand here, at least until I get
some more shelving built, and more than one flatbed scanner, but then
there's the time factor...
--
Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
-
Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James
M Dakin
2:18 p.m.
how about a sheet feeder Roy, bought(?) or home made?
Then you could cut off the bindings, then feed them
in. It's what I'm going to do...one of these days.
There's also the automated page flipper type thing. I
had a particular design in mind, then I saw this, and
it was even better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRPZm3pyC4o
No, that's not the original page I found several
months ago, and I don't feel like looking for it (if
it's still up). But that's the very one a Japanese
dude built.
--- "Roy J. Tellason" <rtellason at verizon.net> wrote:
On Wednesday 06 June 2007 10:49, Mark KAHRS wrote:
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I have 25 linear feet of old databooks. I've
kept
them partly out of
sentimentality and partly because I have to fix
stuff of that era now
and then.
The data sheet archives I've seen on the web are
woefully incomplete.
Does anyone know of anyone/anything that collects
these?
(Waving...)
I'm the one with the data sheet archives, too,
which are by necessity a work
in progress. Contributions of datasheets in
electronic form gladly accepted,
as are suggestions as to how I might improve the
pages:
http://www.classiccmp.org/rtellason/parts-index.html
I also have lots of boxes of databooks on hand here,
at least until I get
some more shelving built, and more than one flatbed
scanner, but then
there's the time factor...
--
Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most
unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a
critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein,
"The Puppet Masters"
-
Information is more dangerous than cannon to a
society ruled by lies. --James
M Dakin
7:18 p.m.
Yes the video is still up.
Pretty neat machine. Must take hours to scan the book, but I guess it is faster than doing
it all manually. Gives you time to sit back and have a cup of tea/coffee/cocoa while it
does all the work :)
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote: how about a sheet feeder Roy, bought(?) or
home made?
Then you could cut off the bindings, then feed them
in. It's what I'm going to do...one of these days.
There's also the automated page flipper type thing. I
had a particular design in mind, then I saw this, and
it was even better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRPZm3pyC4o
No, that's not the original page I found several
months ago, and I don't feel like looking for it (if
it's still up). But that's the very one a Japanese
dude built.
7:25 p.m.
that mechanism was a bit slow it seems. Though time is
irrelevant - you could set the thing to running, then
go to bed even.
--- Andrew Burton <aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Yes the video is still up.
Pretty neat machine. Must take hours to scan the
book, but I guess it is faster than doing it all
manually. Gives you time to sit back and have a cup
of tea/coffee/cocoa while it does all the work :)
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote: how about a
sheet feeder Roy, bought(?) or home made?
Then you could cut off the bindings, then feed them
in. It's what I'm going to do...one of these days.
There's also the automated page flipper type thing.
I
had a particular design in mind, then I saw this,
and
it was even better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRPZm3pyC4o
No, that's not the original page I found several
months ago, and I don't feel like looking for it (if
it's still up). But that's the very one a Japanese
dude built.
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11:49 p.m.
On Wednesday 06 June 2007 14:18, Chris M wrote:
how about a sheet feeder Roy, bought(?) or home made?
Then you could cut off the bindings, then feed them
in. It's what I'm going to do...one of these days.
Nope. I don't see a need to destroy the books to get that info in there...
There's also the automated page flipper type
thing. I had a particular
design in mind, then I saw this, and it was even better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRPZm3pyC4o
No, that's not the original page I found several months ago, and I don't
feel like looking for it (if it's still up). But that's the very one a
Japanese dude built.
I'll have a look some time. Other constraints apply, and I'm not gonna bore
y'all with what's been going on in my life lately.
--- "Roy J. Tellason" <rtellason at
verizon.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 June 2007 10:49, Mark KAHRS wrote:
> > I have 25 linear feet of old databooks. I've kept
> > them partly out of sentimentality and partly because I have to fix
> > stuff of that era now and then.
> >
> > The data sheet archives I've seen on the web are
> > woefully incomplete.
>
> > Does anyone know of anyone/anything that collects
> > these?
>
> (Waving...)
>
> I'm the one with the data sheet archives, too, which are by necessity a
> work in progress. Contributions of datasheets in electronic form gladly
> accepted, as are suggestions as to how I might improve the
> pages:
>
> http://www.classiccmp.org/rtellason/parts-index.html
>
> I also have lots of boxes of databooks on hand here, at least until I get
> some more shelving built, and more than one flatbed scanner, but then
> there's the time factor...
--
Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
-
Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James
M Dakin
7 Jun
7 Jun
6:41 a.m.
"Roy J. Tellason" <rtellason at verizon.net> wrote:
On Wednesday 06 June 2007 14:18, Chris M wrote:
Most databooks are printed on variable-to-poor quality paper and
will not last forever anyway. If you don't want to destroy them that
badly, then hopefully you will have them treated to neutralize the
acid in the paper.
Most such books end up "too much trouble to scan but too valuable to
shear off the binding to make scanning easier" so the owner ends up
throwing them away.
Doug Jones has a good web page on paperback/databook type preservation:
http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/book/
Tim.
how about a sheet feeder Roy, bought(?) or home
made?
Then you could cut off the bindings, then feed them
in. It's what I'm going to do...one of these days.
Nope. I don't see a need to destroy the books to get that info in there... 
7 a.m.
Tim Shoppa wrote:
"Roy J. Tellason" <rtellason at
verizon.net> wrote:
What sort of timescale is 'forever'? We've got numerous ones dating back to
the 70s which are showing no real signs of decay *yet*.
The shiny, ultra-thin paper often found in databooks actually seems to fare
better than coarser "book" type paper in my experience. I'm not sure why -
maybe it's more resistant to absorbing moisture from the air or something.
I hauled about 20ft of databooks into our workshop just the other week which
can go on the shelves - unfortunately a lot of it's early transistor stuff
rather than ICs, which is perhaps less useful: the majority of our
transistorised big iron has a healthy spare components cache and will document
the components anyway; later databooks would be more handy as a reference for
IC-populated machines, as in most cases they're a lot smaller and don't come
with a big cache of spares.
cheers
Jules
On Wednesday 06 June 2007 14:18, Chris M wrote:
Most databooks are printed on variable-to-poor quality paper and
will not last forever anyway. If you don't want to destroy them that
badly, then hopefully you will have them treated to neutralize the
acid in the paper. how about a sheet feeder Roy, bought(?) or home
made?
Then you could cut off the bindings, then feed them
in. It's what I'm going to do...one of these days.
Nope. I don't see
a need to destroy the books to get that info in there...
9 Jun
9 Jun
1:54 p.m.
On Thursday 07 June 2007 06:41, Tim Shoppa wrote:
"Roy J. Tellason" <rtellason at
verizon.net> wrote:
Most of the ones I have don't seem to have that problem, fortunately.
On Wednesday 06 June 2007 14:18, Chris M wrote:
Most databooks are printed on variable-to-poor quality paper and
will not last forever anyway. If you don't want to destroy them that
badly, then hopefully you will have them treated to neutralize the
acid in the paper. how about a sheet feeder Roy, bought(?) or home
made?
Then you could cut off the bindings, then feed them
in. It's what I'm going to do...one of these days.
Nope. I don't see a need to destroy the books to get that info in
there... Most such books end up "too much trouble to scan
but too valuable to
shear off the binding to make scanning easier" so the owner ends up
throwing them away.
Not too likely in my case. :-)
Doug Jones has a good web page on paperback/databook
type preservation:
http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/book/
I'll have a look.
--
Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
-
Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James
M Dakin
6 Jun
6 Jun
6:10 p.m.
On Jun 6, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Mark KAHRS wrote:
I have 25 linear feet of old databooks. I've kept
them partly out of
sentimentality and partly because I have to fix stuff of that era now
and then.
The data sheet archives I've seen on the web are woefully incomplete.
Does anyone know of anyone/anything that collects these?
I don't collect them, but I have a huge number of them, and I use
them pretty much every day. I've purchased a lot of older ones on
eBay and happily paid Real Money for them. That really cheeses me
off because vendors give them away for free, but if I need the data,
I need the data. :-(
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
6:12 p.m.
I have 25 linear feet of old databooks. I've kept them partly out of
sentimentality and partly because I have to fix stuff of that era now
and then.
The data sheet archives I've seen on the web are woefully incomplete.
Does anyone know of anyone/anything that collects these?
I don't collect them, I use them :-)
I find a paper databook/datasheet to be a lot easier to refer to than a
document on the web. Sure the web archives are useful when I can't get
the data any other way (nad many times they have provided data on chips
not in the _large_ collection of databooks here), but I am still keeping
said databooks.
AS is well know, I do a lot of reapirs on older computer hardware, and
it's a lot easier when you know what the chips are and what signals to
expect on the pins :-)
-tony
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