29 Jan
2006
29 Jan
'06
1:56 a.m.
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:09:49 -0600, Jay West" <jwest at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Happened to come across this gorgeous triple bay HP
rack. It's the
perfect
(accurate) type for an HP2000/TSB system. Correct PMU/PDU's, etc.
http://www.alltronics.com/relay_racks.htm
Scroll down about 9/10ths of the way... under heading "triple rack
cabinets"
http://www.alltronics.com/images/RackZZ.jpg is a bigger picture.
If someone wants a really nice setup for HP gear, this is the right
one :)
Jay West
If anyone is interested in racks of this type, let me know and I will
put a word in with the local scrapper. I have seen quite a few come
through in the last year that were used for test purposes (racks of
HP test equipment - mostly removed). Most of these go to the
recycler, but so as long as he makes something above scrap he's happy.
Equipment is in Tucson, AZ...
CRC
29 Jan
29 Jan
7:57 a.m.
In article <188BFA3A-46C6-43A7-A07A-3935E5575DA8 at comcast.net>,
CRC <technobug at comcast.net> writes:
If anyone is interested in racks of this type, let me
know and I will
put a word in with the local scrapper. [...]
How do you meet the local scrapper? ;-)
In the big purge of equipment from work last week, I picked up a 19"
rack that is about 36 or 40 inches high, with casters. This is just
enough of a rack to hold my Fujitsu 2444, which makes me happy :-).
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3:20 p.m.
Richard wrote:
In article <188BFA3A-46C6-43A7-A07A-3935E5575DA8 at
comcast.net>,
CRC <technobug at comcast.net> writes:
Generally, with a wad of $20 bills in hand. :-)
Seriously, I've found that if I show up in steel-toe boots, explain
what I want, know what I'm looking for, and stand my ground on value, I
end up with a good working relationship with them. Down the road is
when I expect to go exploring for "whatever".
The scrappers I know won't respect you at all and won't like you if
you don't haggle with them. Thye'll try to rip you off and then write
you off if you fall for it.
Doc
If anyone is interested in racks of this type, let
me know and I will
put a word in with the local scrapper. [...]
How do you meet the local scrapper? ;-)
4:33 p.m.
In article <43DD239E.7040309 at mdrconsult.com>,
Doc Shipley <doc at mdrconsult.com> writes:
I meant more generally how do you bump into them and establish enough
of a relationship that they'll give you a 'heads up' when they
encounter something you'd be interested in, like 19" racks, mainframe
or minicomputer iron, etc.
How do you
meet the local scrapper? ;-)
Generally, with a wad of $20 bills in hand. :-) Seriously, I've found that if I show up in
steel-toe boots, explain
what I want, know what I'm looking for, and stand my ground on value, I
end up with a good working relationship with them. Down the road is
when I expect to go exploring for "whatever".
The scrappers I know won't respect you at all and won't like you if
you don't haggle with them. Thye'll try to rip you off and then write
you off if you fall for it.
Well, I might show up in shitty sneakers, T-shirt and jeans ;-), but
yeah, its like dealing with fleamarket people or auction people, you
don't want to be labelled as a sucker or you'll never get a fair
shake.
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4:42 p.m.
Richard wrote:
I meant more generally how do you bump into them and
establish enough
of a relationship that they'll give you a 'heads up' when they
encounter something you'd be interested in, like 19" racks, mainframe
or minicomputer iron, etc.
Look them up in the phone book. Show up, don't call, and show up
dressed to follow them into the warehouse. Ergo steel-toe boots.
Business casual and hippie duds are equally likely to get a "not
interested" response.
I just tell them "I see you do computer/electronics recycling, and
I'm looking for $system. It looks like this. Are you at all interested
in retailing individual units?"
Some scrappers, including the biggest recycler in my county,
absolutely won't do it. The one here wants a state sales-tax form, a
business name, and they sell wrapped pallets, period.
Doc
4:56 p.m.
In article <43DD36C1.7050001 at mdrconsult.com>,
Doc Shipley <doc at mdrconsult.com> writes:
Look them up in the phone book. Show up, don't
call, and show up
dressed to follow them into the warehouse. Ergo steel-toe boots.
Sheesh. I have to buy a pair of steel-toe boots for these guys?
Business casual and hippie duds are equally likely to
get a "not
interested" response.
I definately would not show up in my work clothes (i.e. business
casual). I'm not sure what you mean by "hippie duds", though. I
mean, when I worked in blue collar environments t-shirts/jeans were
the norm, or does that qualify as "hippie duds" to you?
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5:04 p.m.
Richard wrote:
In article <43DD36C1.7050001 at
mdrconsult.com>,
Doc Shipley <doc at mdrconsult.com> writes:
Heh. A $15 pair of GI stompers would probably suffice. :)
Besides, if you're careful about the fit, the Desert Storm boots are
damn good shoes.
Look them up in the phone book. Show up,
don't call, and show up
dressed to follow them into the warehouse. Ergo steel-toe boots.
Sheesh. I have to buy a pair of steel-toe boots for these guys? I definately would not show up in my work clothes
(i.e. business
casual). I'm not sure what you mean by "hippie duds", though. I
mean, when I worked in blue collar environments t-shirts/jeans were
the norm, or does that qualify as "hippie duds" to you?
No, I mean "no cut-offs, no holes and no heavy metal T-shirts" - like
I'd show up to apply for a construction crew where I didn't know the
crew boss.
FWIW, my usual "out-in-the-world" dress mode is cutoffs, army boots,
and a tie-dye T-shirt.
Doc
8:55 p.m.
On Sunday 29 January 2006 16:33, Richard wrote:
In article <43DD239E.7040309 at
mdrconsult.com>,
Doc Shipley <doc at mdrconsult.com> writes:
I meant more generally how do you bump into them and establish enough
of a relationship that they'll give you a 'heads up' when they
encounter something you'd be interested in, like 19" racks, mainframe
or minicomputer iron, etc.
Spend several months going there, until you get to the point you're going 3-5
times a week. It depends on the outfit, but there's a good chance they're
not going to care enough to learn what things are, and if they should call
you.
Pat
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How do
you meet the local scrapper? ;-)
Generally, with a wad of $20 bills in hand. :-)
9:52 p.m.
In article <200601292055.47363.pat at computer-refuge.org>,
Patrick Finnegan <pat at computer-refuge.org> writes:
On Sunday 29 January 2006 16:33, Richard wrote:
You mean going there to look over what they have? Assuming, of
course, that they're willing to retail something to you.
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In article <43DD239E.7040309 at
mdrconsult.com>,
Doc Shipley <doc at mdrconsult.com> writes:
I meant more generally how do you bump into them and establish enough
of a relationship that they'll give you a 'heads up' when they
encounter something you'd be interested in, like 19" racks, mainframe
or minicomputer iron, etc.
Spend several months going there, until you get to the point you're going 3-5
times a week. How do
you meet the local scrapper? ;-)
Generally, with a wad of $20 bills in hand. :-) 
30 Jan
30 Jan
9:20 a.m.
At 02:33 PM 1/29/06 -0700, you wrote:
In article <43DD239E.7040309 at mdrconsult.com>,
Doc Shipley <doc at mdrconsult.com> writes:
I meant more generally how do you bump into them and establish enough
of a relationship that they'll give you a 'heads up' when they
encounter something you'd be interested in, like 19" racks, mainframe
or minicomputer iron, etc.
That's pretty much an impossiblity! They usually don't know what the
stuff is and in many cases they get loads that they never even look
through. Besides many of them are just too lazt or too busy to call you.
The best way to deal with scrappers is to visit them FREQUENTLY and look
for yourself.
Joe
How do
you meet the local scrapper? ;-)
Generally, with a wad of $20 bills in hand. :-)
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