22 Aug
2007
22 Aug
'07
2 p.m.
A few years ago, a friend of mine gave me a MicroVAX - I think a 3100.
I never got round to doing anything with it, then he asked for it
back, pending giving me a newer, better machine - but then his life
went a bit pear-shaped and he lost his entire collection, leaving me
VAXless.
It now emerges I have an urgent need to polish up my VMS knowledge,
which is a good excuse.
I was thus wondering if anyone in England - ideally, around the SE -
had any spare VAXen they might part with for an impoverished
fellow-hobbyist?
I don't really need disks - I have a small stockpile of SCSI drives
and maybe even some ESDIs somewhere. It does need to be otherwise
running, though. I have SCSI CD-ROMs available and a Hobbyist CD
somewhere.
In the meantime, I'll try SIMH, but I'd much prefer real hardware if possible.
In an ideal world, I would really love an old VAXstation. I used to
rather like DECwindows and would love to play with it again...
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22 Aug
22 Aug
2:27 p.m.
It now emerges I have an urgent need to polish up my
VMS knowledge,
which is a good excuse.
I was thus wondering if anyone in England - ideally, around the SE -
had any spare VAXen they might part with for an impoverished
fellow-hobbyist?
It is a shame that you didn't ask about this a week or so ago. Check
comp.os.vms for a posting last week by Elliott Roper. He *might* have one
or two systems left, but I think he's pretty much unloaded everything (he
had a lot). He is in Hayfield, which is about 15 miles SE of Manchester.
running, though. I have SCSI CD-ROMs available and a
Hobbyist CD
somewhere.
Keep in mind they need to support 512-byte blocks.
In the meantime, I'll try SIMH, but I'd much
prefer real hardware if
possible.
Don't blame you. I only run VMS on real hardware.
In an ideal world, I would really love an old
VAXstation. I used to
rather like DECwindows and would love to play with it again...
You might want to ask around about an Alpha as well. The thing to keep in
mind with an Alpha though is that it needs a *LOT* more RAM.
BTW, ones first VAX should always be SCSI based if at all possible. It will
make non-SCSI ones that much easier to get up and running. :^) (my first
two weren't)
Zane
23 Aug
23 Aug
9:51 a.m.
On 22/08/07, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
The need only arose as of Tuesday afternoon!
That kit looked ideal, but he's posted a follow-on saying it's all
gone. Damned shame. I suspect they went to the tip. :?(
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It now emerges
I have an urgent need to polish up my VMS knowledge,
which is a good excuse.
I was thus wondering if anyone in England - ideally, around the SE -
had any spare VAXen they might part with for an impoverished
fellow-hobbyist?
It is a shame that you didn't ask about this a week or so ago. Check
comp.os.vms for a posting last week by Elliott Roper. He *might* have one
or two systems left, but I think he's pretty much unloaded everything (he
had a lot). He is in Hayfield, which is about 15 miles SE of Manchester.
11:20 a.m.
At 2:51 PM +0100 8/23/07, Liam Proven wrote:
On 22/08/07, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at
aracnet.com> wrote:
With the possible exception of a few items that
were trash (ancient dead Alpha's), along with
some monitors no one seemed interested in,
everything was rescued.
I just wish I'd been in place to rescue the VAXstation 4000/vlc's!
Zane
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It is a shame that you didn't ask about this
a week or so ago. Check
comp.os.vms for a posting last week by Elliott Roper. He *might* have one
or two systems left, but I think he's pretty much unloaded everything (he
had a lot). He is in Hayfield, which is about 15 miles SE of Manchester.
The need only arose as of Tuesday afternoon!
That kit looked ideal, but he's posted a follow-on saying it's all
gone. Damned shame. I suspect they went to the tip. :?( 
12:03 p.m.
On 23/8/07 16:20, "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
With the possible exception of a few items that
were trash (ancient dead Alpha's), along with
some monitors no one seemed interested in,
everything was rescued.
I just wish I'd been in place to rescue the VAXstation 4000/vlc's!
I was lucky enough to get hold of most of it:
[Note: pictures are 1024x768 ~ 250KB each]
http://ozpass.co.uk/files/vaxen/vaxen1.jpg
http://ozpass.co.uk/files/vaxen/vaxen2.jpg
http://ozpass.co.uk/files/vaxen/vaxen3.jpg
http://ozpass.co.uk/files/vaxen/vaxen4.jpg
http://ozpass.co.uk/files/vaxen/vaxen5.jpg
http://ozpass.co.uk/files/vaxen/vaxen6.jpg
http://ozpass.co.uk/files/vaxen/vaxen7.jpg
http://ozpass.co.uk/files/vaxen/vaxen8.jpg
I got all of the VAXstation 4000's and remaining microVAXen but didn't take
the VLC's - I didn't realise they were at all popular / useful. Elliott is
a super guy, and very interesting too; I'm most grateful to him. What's
slightly embarrassing is that I took such a massive haul... Elliott gave
the impression that I was the "last chance motel" for the equipment before
it went to the tip. I have subsequently found out that there was
substantial interest in the equipment and I happened to be first in line!
Unfortunately for Liam, all of what you see in the pictures is currently en
route to my place in France, but I'll happily bring back one of the MicroVAX
3100-80's for you if you can wait a couple of weeks. My home in the UK is
in Mossley, near Stalybridge, East of Manchester.
-Austin.
22 Aug
22 Aug
6:01 p.m.
On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 19:00 +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
I was thus wondering if anyone in England - ideally,
around the SE -
had any spare VAXen they might part with for an impoverished
fellow-hobbyist?
If you're not too fussed about England specifically, I have a MicroVAX
3300 and a couple of VAXStation 3100s going spare. I also know where
you could lay hands on a MicroVAX II.
Gordon
23 Aug
23 Aug
9:50 a.m.
On 22/08/07, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon at gjcp.net> wrote:
On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 19:00 +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
How do you mean?
I have to collect it somehow and I don't have a car - I'm a biker. I
do have a trike, so wide loads and balance aren't a problem, but we'd
have to wrap it weatherproof and strap it on my back seat or luggage
rack!
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I was thus wondering if anyone in England -
ideally, around the SE -
had any spare VAXen they might part with for an impoverished
fellow-hobbyist?
If you're not too fussed about England specifically, I have a MicroVAX
3300 and a couple of VAXStation 3100s going spare. I also know where
you could lay hands on a MicroVAX II.
11:22 a.m.
At 2:50 PM +0100 8/23/07, Liam Proven wrote:
Unless you can pull some sort of trailer, or have a sidecar (not sure
what you mean by trike), I'd really recommend staying away from
systems like the MicroVAX 3300, and MicroVAX II. I'd prefer not to
hear about you being crushed by a VAX. Hint, they make nice
end-tables.
VAXstation 3100's could prove interesting, but should be totally
doable, plus they'll be easier to get up and running.
Zane
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If you're
not too fussed about England specifically, I have a MicroVAX
3300 and a couple of VAXStation 3100s going spare. I also know where
you could lay hands on a MicroVAX II.
How do you mean?
I have to collect it somehow and I don't have a car - I'm a biker. I
do have a trike, so wide loads and balance aren't a problem, but we'd
have to wrap it weatherproof and strap it on my back seat or luggage
rack!
11:46 a.m.
On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 14:50 +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
I have to collect it somehow and I don't have a
car - I'm a biker. I
do have a trike, so wide loads and balance aren't a problem, but we'd
have to wrap it weatherproof and strap it on my back seat or luggage
rack!
It would probably be easier to ship the 3300 with a car or similar. The
VAXStations are PC-sized more-or-less. The big problem for you is I'm
in Glasgow, so it might be easier to organise shipping somehow.
I'd drive down with them if I had time.
Gordon
24 Aug
24 Aug
10:56 p.m.
New subject: eBay was RE: Anyone got a small VAX going spare?
You might want to have a look at eBay lot 160150889916
described as "DEC VAX 4000 4 Node Cluster VMS 5.1H2 - Running"
I've no idea whether the reserve is reasonable* - but the lot
may be of interest to someone on the list
* 0-rated seller - it's anyone's guess
Andy
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29 Aug
29 Aug
3:01 p.m.
New subject: eBay was RE: Anyone got a small VAX going spare?
On 25/08/2007, Andy Holt <andyh at andyh-rayleigh.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
You might want to have a look at eBay lot
160150889916
described as "DEC VAX 4000 4 Node Cluster VMS 5.1H2 - Running"
I've no idea whether the reserve is reasonable* - but the lot
may be of interest to someone on the list
* 0-rated seller - it's anyone's guess
Andy
Ta for the tip! I can't spare that much room, though, and it would be
a bugger to move it.
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3:08 p.m.
New subject: eBay was RE: Anyone got a small VAX going spare?
Liam Proven wrote:
Ta for the tip! I can't spare that much room,
though, and it would be
a bugger to move it.
You might be able to find someone to split that load with.
If it wasn't on the other side of the ocean, I'd have split it with you.
8-/
Peace... Sridhar
3:44 p.m.
New subject: eBay was RE: Anyone got a small VAX going spare?
In article <46D5C44A.2080606 at gmail.com>,
Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> writes:
If it wasn't on the other side of the ocean,
I'd have split it with you.
8-/
Yeah, it looks like a nice little cluster! I've got a 4000/300 VAX
sitting in my basement :-)
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