22 Dec
2011
22 Dec
'11
7:27 p.m.
J David Bryan organized the contents of the tapes that I've read over the past ten
years.
The software is available for non-commercial use under an agreement between CHM and HP.
A huge thank you to Mr. Bryan for doing this, since I haven't had the time to organize
it.
There are over 75,000 files, around 2gb. It should be finished uploading later tonight.
http://bitsavers.org/bits/HP/HP_1000_software_collection
22 Dec
22 Dec
9:18 p.m.
amazing
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
J David Bryan organized the contents of the tapes that
I've read over the
past ten years.
The software is available for non-commercial use under an agreement
between CHM and HP.
A huge thank you to Mr. Bryan for doing this, since I haven't had the time
to organize it.
There are over 75,000 files, around 2gb. It should be finished uploading
later tonight.
http://bitsavers.org/bits/HP/**HP_1000_software_collection<http://bitsav…
10:11 p.m.
On 22 Dec 2011, at 6:33 PM, Michael Kerpan wrote:
Wow. This and MTS on the same day? It's like
Christmas but a few days early!
You're not wrong about that. Seriously amazing work by all involved.
--
Dr. Christian Kennedy
chris at mainecoon.com AF6AP
http://www.mainecoon.com PGP KeyID 108DAB97
PGP fingerprint: 4E99 10B6 7253 B048 6685 6CBC 55E1 20A3 108D AB97
"Mr. McKittrick, after careful consideration..."
23 Dec
23 Dec
4:51 a.m.
*Wew*
Santa exists at last :-)
SPc.
2011/12/23 Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org>
J David Bryan organized the contents of the tapes that
I've read over the
past ten years.
The software is available for non-commercial use under an agreement
between CHM and HP.
A huge thank you to Mr. Bryan for doing this, since I haven't had the time
to organize it.
There are over 75,000 files, around 2gb. It should be finished uploading
later tonight.
http://bitsavers.org/bits/HP/**HP_1000_software_collection<http://bitsav…
5:32 a.m.
I bought the boards consisting of the HP-1000 WCS and memory protect
recently. I hope there is more info on those boards in that data.
It looks like there was a fortran package that allowed one to load
writable control store to boost the math performance from what I read.
I'm a sucker for WCS anyway, so hopefully these will somehow fit in the
1000 that I have.
Jim
On 12/23/2011 1:51 AM, SPC wrote:
*Wew*
Santa exists at last :-)
SPc.
2011/12/23 Al Kossow<aek at bitsavers.org>
J David Bryan organized the contents of the tapes
that I've read over the
past ten years.
The software is available for non-commercial use under an agreement
between CHM and HP.
A huge thank you to Mr. Bryan for doing this, since I haven't had the time
to organize it.
There are over 75,000 files, around 2gb. It should be finished uploading
later tonight.
http://bitsavers.org/bits/HP/**HP_1000_software_collection<http://bitsav…
5:29 a.m.
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011, Al Kossow wrote:
J David Bryan organized the contents of the tapes that
I've read over
the past ten years. The software is available for non-commercial use
under an agreement between CHM and HP. A huge thank you to Mr. Bryan for
doing this, since I haven't had the time to organize it. There are over
75,000 files, around 2gb. It should be finished uploading later tonight.
http://bitsavers.org/bits/HP/HP_1000_software_collection
Outstanding! That makes HP2100/HP1000 probably more interesting than
e.g. PDP11, at least from the SW point of view.
Christian
10:50 a.m.
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Van: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org]
Namens Christian Corti
Verzonden: vrijdag 23 december 2011 11:30
Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Onderwerp: Re: HP 1000 software collection
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011, Al Kossow wrote:
Christian I've to correct you..
HP always was more interesting, they made the best build an engineered
machines.
Well until they started with PC's ..;-)
I love it, this is great, play time arrived just in time for the Holidays
;-)
-Rik
J David Bryan organized the contents of the tapes
that I've read over
the past ten years. The software is available for non-commercial use
under an agreement between CHM and HP. A huge thank you to Mr. Bryan
for doing this, since I haven't had the time to organize it. There are
over
75,000 files, around 2gb. It should be finished uploading later tonight.
http://bitsavers.org/bits/HP/HP_1000_software_collection
Outstanding! That makes HP2100/HP1000 probably more interesting than e.g.
PDP11, at least from the SW point of view.
Christian
12:27 p.m.
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011, Rik Bos wrote:
Christian I've to correct you..
HP always was more interesting, they made the best build an engineered
machines.
True, they're very well engineered and built machines, although they're
only PDP-8s on steroids... but I really like them.
Well until they started with PC's ..;-)
At least they're still building PCs and (other) computers today ;-)
I love it, this is great, play time arrived just in
time for the Holidays
;-)
I'll have to wait until next year before I can play with our HPs at the
museum. And then there are so many other projects.
Christian
5:59 p.m.
Christian I've to correct you..
HP always was more interesting, they made the best build an engineered
machines.
Ooh... That's going to start a Holy War :-)
HP stuff (real, HP stuff, before the PC era) was beautifully built. It
was also well-designend and often very clever (I've said that I consider
the HP9100 to be the nost elegant piece of electronics I've ever had the
pleasure of working on).
On the other hand, PDP8s and PDP11s are well made, well engineered, and
interesting. It's impoissible to red the PDP11/45 CPU and floating point
microcode and not admire it.
And for anotehr manufacturer, the PERQ CPU is an interesting design too.
Can we agree to get on, and preserve _all_ these fine machines and their
software, please...
-tony
10:44 a.m.
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Van: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org]
Namens Al Kossow
Verzonden: vrijdag 23 december 2011 1:28
Aan: classiccmp at classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: HP 1000 software collection
J David Bryan organized the contents of the tapes that I've read over the
past
ten years.
The software is available for non-commercial use under an agreement
between
CHM and HP.
A huge thank you to Mr. Bryan for doing this, since I haven't had the time
to
organize it.
There are over 75,000 files, around 2gb. It should be finished uploading
later
Great work !
Thanks,
-Rik
5:17 p.m.
J David Bryan organized the contents of the tapes that I've read over the past ten
years.
The software is available for non-commercial use under an agreement between CHM and HP.
A huge thank you to Mr. Bryan for doing this, since I haven't had the time to
organize it.
There are over 75,000 files, around 2gb. It should be finished uploading later tonight.
http://bitsavers.org/bits/HP/HP_1000_software_collection
That's excellent too (and probably of more practical use, there being
more HP1000s around than machines that can run MTS). I must take a look.
-tony
8:22 p.m.
On 12/23/2011 2:17 PM, Tony Duell wrote:
most pc's and even PDA's will be able to run MTS as soon as they work
thru the sources. There has been a lot of work put into that, and it is
good the release has finally come through.
I have an HP-1000 of the iron type, and would love to run the soft
type. There are usually so many fewer problems with exploding old power
supply caps with software emulations, and the software is actually the
final payoff anyway.
Jim
J David Bryan
organized the contents of the tapes that I've read over the past ten years.
The software is available for non-commercial use under an agreement between CHM and HP.
A huge thank you to Mr. Bryan for doing this, since I haven't had the time to
organize it.
There are over 75,000 files, around 2gb. It should be finished uploading later tonight.
http://bitsavers.org/bits/HP/HP_1000_software_collection
That's excellent too
(and probably of more practical use, there being
more HP1000s around than machines that can run MTS). I must take a look.
-tony
8:33 p.m.
On Dec 23, 2011, at 8:22 PM, jim s <jws at jwsss.com> wrote:
I have an HP-1000 of the iron type, and would love to
run the soft type. There are usually so many fewer problems with exploding old power
supply caps with software emulations, and the software is actually the final payoff
anyway.
Not for everyone. Wanna part with your HP-1000? ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
New Kensington, PA
24 Dec
24 Dec
1:27 p.m.
> That's excellent too (and probably of more
practical use, there being
> more HP1000s around than machines that can run MTS). I must take a look.
most pc's and even PDA's will be able to run
MTS as soon as they work
I am darn sure none of my PCs can. And I am absolutley shrue I don't have
a PDA that could run it. And actually, why would I want to?
thru the sources. There has been a lot of work put
into that, and it is
good the release has finally come through.
Sure
I have an HP-1000 of the iron type, and would love to run the soft
type. There are usually so many fewer problems with exploding old power
supply caps with software emulations, and the software is actually the
final payoff anyway.
I disagree with both of those asseritons... In reverse order :
You may be interested i nthe software rather than the hardware, but I can
assue you that's not universal. I am interested in fixxing nad running
the real hardwere. This is very much a personal choice, and I am very
happy to accept that everybody is in this hobby for different reasons.
As regards the capcxtiros, having heard of the problems of 'fake'
capacitors on PC motherboards, and having seen the 'quality' of some
modern electrolytics, I woudl think that a PC is more likely to have
capacitor problems than a quality classic computer (and if nothing else,
HP stuff from that time doesnt' have poor-qualtiy components in it). I've
got many HP machines and instrum,ents here, some a lot older than any
HP1000, and most are sitill on all their original capacitors. I think I
had _one_ capacitor fail in an HP9810, and I changed a couple in my HP120
CP/M machine because the results of them blowign their tops (and they
were bulging) could have meant a new CRT. But that's about all. I do not
understnad this witch-hunt on old capacitors.
-tony
25 Dec
25 Dec
10:16 a.m.
I'd like to add my congratulations and thanks. The 2116 restoration we're working
on for display will benefit greatly from not having to run only the poor fortran dogerel
I'd be able to come up with. Great stuff!
-- Colin
ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote:
> That's excellent too (and probably of more
practical use, there being
> more HP1000s around than machines that can run MTS). I must take a look.
most pc's and even PDA's will be able to run
MTS as soon as they work
I am darn sure none of my PCs can. And I am absolutley shrue I don't have
a PDA that could run it. And actually, why would I want to?
thru the sources. There has been a lot of work put
into that, and it is
good the release has finally come through.
Sure
I have an HP-1000 of the iron type, and would love to run the soft
type. There are usually so many fewer problems with exploding old power
supply caps with software emulations, and the software is actually the
final payoff anyway.
I disagree with both of those asseritons... In reverse order :
You may be interested i nthe software rather than the hardware, but I can
assue you that's not universal. I am interested in fixxing nad running
the real hardwere. This is very much a personal choice, and I am very
happy to accept that everybody is in this hobby for different reasons.
As regards the capcxtiros, having heard of the problems of 'fake'
capacitors on PC motherboards, and having seen the 'quality' of some
modern electrolytics, I woudl think that a PC is more likely to have
capacitor problems than a quality classic computer (and if nothing else,
HP stuff from that time doesnt' have poor-qualtiy components in it). I've
got many HP machines and instrum,ents here, some a lot older than any
HP1000, and most are sitill on all their original capacitors. I think I
had _one_ capacitor fail in an HP9810, and I changed a couple in my HP120
CP/M machine because the results of them blowign their tops (and they
were bulging) could have meant a new CRT. But that's about all. I do not
understnad this witch-hunt on old capacitors.
-tony
24 Dec
24 Dec
11:37 a.m.
On Thursday 22 December 2011, Al Kossow wrote:
J David Bryan organized the contents of the tapes that
I've read over the past ten years.
The software is available for non-commercial use under an agreement between CHM and HP.
A huge thank you to Mr. Bryan for doing this, since I haven't had the time to
organize it.
There are over 75,000 files, around 2gb. It should be finished uploading later tonight.
http://bitsavers.org/bits/HP/HP_1000_software_collection
This is terrific!!! Simply incredible. My 21xx systems (incl. HP1000s) will be VERY
happy!
A huge thanks to J David Bryan and Al (and HP) for this!!!
Cheers,
Lyle
--
Lyle Bickley, AF6WS
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
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