5 Jul
2014
5 Jul
'14
3:13 p.m.
My hackerspace (ENTS; http://ents.ca/) recently got a large donation of
equipment and components from an automation company. Most of it was test
equipment but there was also a PDP-11/34 with two RL01 drives. An LP11
and a DZ11 are also installed. Several RL cartridges are included,
although some are RL02 cartridges, and one is a VMS 3.0 distribution
cartridge. There are also a few boxes of documentation that we haven't
gone through yet (although I'd be surprised if there were anything there
that's not on Bitsavers).
It draws a bit too much power for us to run it there, so we are looking
to sell it. I am not quite sure what is a reasonable price is, but I'm
thinking somewhere around $200-$300. However, we are open to offers. I
just don't want to see it scrapped. The buyer would have to either pick
it up or pay for shipping themselves.
Labels of included RL cartridges:
BC-M951G-BC (RSX-1M+ pregenned dist kit) (RL02)
BC-V981E-BC (RSX-11M+ 2.1 MPU21E dist kit; has note saying it has
errors) (RL02)
AX-D820B-BC (BSC-11/IAS-RSX V2 bin) (RL01)
AX-J624A-BC (KED/RSX 1.0 bin) (RL01)
VAX/VMS 3.0 required (RL02)
Northwest Digital Sales - CTOS - Version 4.0 RSX Demonstration Disk
(RL01) (not quite sure what this is)
"Scratch Disk" (RL01)
"Editors" (RL01)
one more disk may be in one of the drives since there is a spare cover,
but I'm not sure
Next time I go there I should really go through the documentation and
see if there are cartridges in either of the drives.
5 Jul
5 Jul
3:42 p.m.
On Jul 5, 2014, at 15:13 , Andrew Warkentin <andreww591 at gmail.com> wrote:
My hackerspace (ENTS; http://ents.ca/) recently got a
large donation of equipment and components from an automation company. Most of it was test
equipment but there was also a PDP-11/34 with two RL01 drives. An LP11 and a DZ11 are also
installed. Several RL cartridges are included, although some are RL02 cartridges, and one
is a VMS 3.0 distribution cartridge. There are also a few boxes of documentation that we
haven't gone through yet (although I'd be surprised if there were anything there
that's not on Bitsavers).
If you don't mind splitting the lot up, I would be interested in buying the VMS 3.0
RL02 pack for my VAX-11/730 project. I'm probably willing to buy any other RL02 packs
for my PDP-11/44 project, too.
I'm running short on space, so I'd rather see somebody else adopt the computer,
RL01 drives and their associated packs. I'm also a bit scared of how much truck
freight might cost across an international border.
I think it's definitely worth sorting through the documentation. I've already
found several manuals that came with my 11/730 that aren't in the wild as PDFs yet,
and scanning them is on my to-do list.
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net>
http://www.nf6x.net/
6 Jul
6 Jul
1:11 a.m.
On 7/5/14, Mark J. Blair <nf6x at nf6x.net> wrote:
If you don't mind splitting the lot up, I would be
interested in buying the
VMS 3.0 RL02 pack for my VAX-11/730 project. I'm probably willing to buy any
other RL02 packs for my PDP-11/44 project, too.
I think that would be OK. It's not like that pack is of any use with
the PDP-11 anyways. Not exactly sure what a reasonable price is. I'm
also not sure if the label is correct.
9:41 a.m.
On Jul 6, 2014, at 01:11 , Andrew Warkentin <andreww591 at gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/5/14, Mark J. Blair <nf6x at nf6x.net>
wrote:
I don't know what a good price is, either, so I'll guess based on eBay prices
I've seen. How about $50 each for RL02 packs on which the shock watch sensor has not
triggered? I'd like to see pictures of the RL02 pack(s) that I might buy, and I bet
lots of folks on the mailing list would like to see pictures of this whole lot of
goodies.
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net>
http://www.nf6x.net/
If you don't mind splitting the lot up, I
would be interested in buying the
VMS 3.0 RL02 pack for my VAX-11/730 project. I'm probably willing to buy any
other RL02 packs for my PDP-11/44 project, too.
I think that would be OK. It's not like that pack is of any use with
the PDP-11 anyways. Not exactly sure what a reasonable price is. I'm
also not sure if the label is correct.
15 Jul
15 Jul
3:43 a.m.
Here are some pictures of it:
<http://postimg.org/image/fsw8wbtqp/>
<http://postimg.org/image/udaz8ukvt/>
We still have it and want to get rid of it soon
2:10 p.m.
In article <53C505D5.3060500 at gmail.com>,
Andrew Warkentin <andreww591 at gmail.com> writes:
Here are some pictures of it:
<http://postimg.org/image/fsw8wbtqp/>
<http://postimg.org/image/udaz8ukvt/>
Is anyone able to view these? Work is blocking it because it claims
that it's a porn site and I wasn't able to download the pictures with
wget on my ISP's unix shell.
--
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<http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
The Computer Graphics Museum <http://ComputerGraphicsMuseum.org>
The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org>
Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://LegalizeAdulthood.wordpress.com>
2:32 p.m.
On Jul 15, 2014, at 14:10 , Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
I was able to view the pictures. It's definitely computer porn, but not the
not-safe-for-work variety. :)
I just mirrored the pictures on my site; maybe it'll get past your filters at work?
http://www.nf6x.net/?attachment_id=6747
http://www.nf6x.net/?attachment_id=6746
On Jul 15, 2014, at 03:43 , Andrew Warkentin <andreww591 at gmail.com> wrote:
Here are some
pictures of it:
<http://postimg.org/image/fsw8wbtqp/>
<http://postimg.org/image/udaz8ukvt/>
Is anyone able to view these? Work is blocking it because it claims
that it's a porn site and I wasn't able to download the pictures with
wget on my ISP's unix shell. Here are some pictures of it:
<http://postimg.org/image/fsw8wbtqp/>
<http://postimg.org/image/udaz8ukvt/>
We still have it and want to get rid of it soon
It looks beautiful, and I'd buy it in a heartbeat if I was (much) closer and
wasn't already so overstuffed with computers!
I'm still interested in buying any of the RL02 packs that don't match its RL01
drives, especially the VMS one(s).
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net>
http://www.nf6x.net/
2:33 p.m.
On 15/07/14 22:10, Richard wrote:
In article <53C505D5.3060500 at gmail.com>,
Andrew Warkentin <andreww591 at gmail.com> writes:
Works for me. The first is a DEC Datasystem
(PDP-11/34) next to a pair
of RL0x drives.
The second is a picture of the module list.
Antonio
Here are some pictures of it:
<http://postimg.org/image/fsw8wbtqp/>
<http://postimg.org/image/udaz8ukvt/>
Is anyone able to view these? Work is
blocking it because it claims
that it's a porn site and I wasn't able to download the pictures with
wget on my ISP's unix shell. 
2:40 p.m.
I was able to check them out, no problem. Typical sort of oddball machine
you'd see from Unisys, LOL. Interesting.
Best,
Sean
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
In article <53C505D5.3060500 at gmail.com>,
Andrew Warkentin <andreww591 at gmail.com> writes:
Here are some pictures of it:
<http://postimg.org/image/fsw8wbtqp/>
<http://postimg.org/image/udaz8ukvt/>
Is anyone able to view these? Work is blocking it because it claims
that it's a porn site and I wasn't able to download the pictures with
wget on my ISP's unix shell.
--
"The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <
http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
The Computer Graphics Museum <http://ComputerGraphicsMuseum.org>
The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org>
Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://LegalizeAdulthood.wordpress.com>
3:40 p.m.
Whoops, crossed threads with the Unisys post but the pics work fine in
either case, LOL.
Best,
Sean
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Sean Caron <scaron at umich.edu> wrote:
I was able to check them out, no problem. Typical sort
of oddball machine
you'd see from Unisys, LOL. Interesting.
Best,
Sean
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
In article <53C505D5.3060500 at gmail.com>,
Andrew Warkentin <andreww591 at gmail.com> writes:
Here are some pictures of it:
<http://postimg.org/image/fsw8wbtqp/>
<http://postimg.org/image/udaz8ukvt/>
Is anyone able to view these? Work is blocking it because it claims
that it's a porn site and I wasn't able to download the pictures with
wget on my ISP's unix shell.
--
"The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <
http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline>
The Computer Graphics Museum <http://ComputerGraphicsMuseum.org>
The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org>
Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://LegalizeAdulthood.wordpress.com>
22 Jul
22 Jul
3:20 a.m.
Here are all the manuals that came with the PDP-11. We still have it.
Someone may be picking it up today but I am not 100% sure. We need to
get rid of it soon.
Hardware:
EK-11034-UG-001 (PDP-11/34 System User's Manual)
EK-MS11L-UG-001 (MS11-L MOS Memory User's Guide)
EK-DZ110-UG-002 (DZ11 User's Guide)
VMS 5.0:
AA-LA88A-TE (VMS Device Support Manual)
AA-LA83A-TE (VMS Record Management Services Manual)
AA-LA84A-TE (VMS I/O User's Reference Manual: Part 1)
AA-LA85A-TE (VMS I/O User's Reference Manual: Part 2)
AA-LA78A-TE (Guide to VMS File Applications)
AA-LA79A-TE (VMS ANALYZE/RMS_File Utility Manual)
AA-LA80A-TE (VMS CONVERT and CONVERT/Reclaim Utility Manual)
AA-LA81A-TE (VMS File Definition Language Facility Manual)
AA-LA82A-TE (VMS National Character Set Utility Manual)
AA-LA10A-TE (VMS DCL Concepts Manual)
AA-LA11E-TE (Guide to Using VMS Command Procedures)
AA-LA56A-TE (VMS Programming Master Index)
AA-LA57A-TE (Guide to VMS Programming Resources)
AA-LA58A-TE (Guide to Creating VMS Modular Procedures)
AA-LA59A-TE (VMS Debugger Manual)
VMS 3.0/3.2:
AE-C770L-TE (VMS 3.0 Software Product Description)
AA-M546A-TE (VMS 3.0 VAX-11/730 Software Installation Guide)
AA-K410C-TE (VMS 3.0 VAX-11/750 Software Installation Guide)
AA-M545B-TE (VMS 3.0 VAX-11/780 Software Installation Guide)
AA-D015D-TE (VAX/VMS 3.0 Release Notes)
AA-D016E-TE (VAX-11 Information Directory and Index)
AA-D017C-TE (VAX/VMS System Messages and Recovery Procedures Manual)
AA-D018C-TE (VAX/VMS System Services Reference Manual)
AA-D019C-TE (VAX-11 Linker Reference Manual)
AA-D020C-TE (VAX-11/RSX-11M Programmer's Reference Manual)
AA-D022C-TE (VAX/VMS Summary Description and Glossary)
AD-D022C-T1 (Update Notice no. 1 for AA-D022C-TE)
AA-D023C-TE (VAX/VMS Command Language User's Guide)
AA-D024D-TE (Introduction to VAX-11 Record Management Services)
AA-D026D-TE (VAX-11 Symbolic Debugger Reference Manual)
AA-D030C-TE (VAX/VMS Primer) (2 copies)
AA-D031D-TE (VAX-11 Record Management Services Reference Manual)
AA-D032D-TE (VAX-11 MACRO Language Reference Manual)
AA-D033D-TE (VAX-11 MACRO User's Guide)
AA-D036C-TE (VAX-11 Run-Time Library Reference Manual)
AA-D037C-TE (VAX-11/RSX-11M User's Guide)
AA-D113C-TE (VAX-11 SORT/MERGE User's Guide)
AA-D643C-TE (VAX/VMS UETP User's Guide)
AA-H499C-TE (VAX/VMS Guide to Writing a Device Driver)
AA-H500C-TE (VAX-11 Guide to Creating Modular Library Procedures)
AA-H781B-TE (VAX-11 Utilities Reference Manual)
AA-H782B-TE (VAX/VMS Guide to Using Command Procedures)
AA-H784B-TE (VAX/VMS Real-Time User's Guide)
AA-H785B-TE (VAX-11 Patch Utility Reference Manual)
AA-H802B-TE (DECnet-VAX User's Guide)
AA-H803B-TE (DECnet-VAX System Manager's Guide)
AD-H803B-T1 (Update Notice no. 1 for AA-H803B-TE)
AA-J107B-TE (VAX-11 Run-Time Library Language Support Reference Manual)
AA-J268B-TK (VAX-11 DIGITAL Standard Runoff (DSR) User's Guide)
AA-J526B-TE (VAX/VMS System Dump Analyzer Reference Manual)
AA-J726A-TC (EDT Editor Manual)
AA-J824B-TE (Introduction to the EDT Editor - Student Guide)
AA-L824A-TE (VAX-11 Run-Time Library User's Guide)
AA-M538A-TE (VAX-11 SOS Text Editing Reference Manual)
AA-M539A-TE (VAX/VMS Magnetic Tape User's Guide)
AA-M540A-TE (VAX/VMS I/O User's Guide vol. 1)
AA-M541A-TE (VAX/VMS I/O User's Guide vol. 2)
AA-M542A-TE (VAX-11 Record Management Servcies Tuning Guide)
AA-M544A-TE (DECnet/VAX Cross-System Notes)
AA-M546B-TE (VMS 3.2 VAX-11/730 Software Installation Guide)
AA-M547A-TE (VAX/VMS System Management and Operations Guide)
AD-M547A-T1 (Update Notice no. 1 for AA-M547A-TE)
AA-M554A-TE (VAX-11 Record Management Services Utilities Reference Manual)
AA-P763A-TE (VAX/VMS 3.2 Release Notes)
RSX-11M+ 2.1:
AE-H862L-TC (RSX-11M+ 2.1 SOftware Product Description)
AA-H267B-TC (RSX-11M+ Guide to WRiting an I/O Driver)
AA-H426C-TC (RSX-11M+ Information Directory/Master Index)
AA-H427C-TC (RSX-11M+/RMS-11 Release Notes)
AV-H435C-TC (RSX-11M/M+ Mini Reference)
AA-H431C-TC (RSX-11M+ System Generation and and Installation Guide)
AA-L668A-TC (RSX-11M/M+ RMS-11 Macro Programmer's Guide)
AA-L671A-TC (RSX-11M/M+ Batch and Queue Operations Manual)
AA-L672B-TC (RSX-11M/M+ Command Language Manual)
AA-L675A-TC (RSX-11M/M+ Executive Reference Manual)
AA-L678A-TC (RSX-11M/M+ MCR Operations Manual)
AD-L678A-T1 (Update Notice no. 1 for AA-L678A-TC)
AA-L679B-TC (RSX-11M/M+ System Management Guide)
AD-L679B-T1 (Update Notice no. 1 for AA-L679B-TC)
AA-L680B-TC (RSX-11M/M+ Task Builder Manual)
AA-L681A-TC (RSX-11M/M+ Utilities Manual)
AA-L682A-TC (RSX-11M/M+ RMS-11 Introduction)
AA-L669A-TC (RSX-11M/M+ RMS-11 User's Guide)
AA-L670A-TC (RSX-11M/M+ RMS-11 Utilities)
AA-L673B-TC (RSX-11M/M+ Crash Dump Analyzer Reference Manual)
AA-L674B-TC (RSX-11M/M+ Error Logging Manual)
AA-L677A-TC (RSX-11M/M+ I/O Drivers Reference Manual)
AA-L763A-TC (Introduction to RSX-11M/M+)
AA-M476A-TK (EDT Editor Manual)
RSX-11M+ 1.0/RSX-11M 3.2
AA-0001A-TC (Introduction to RMS-11)
AA-2555D-TC (Introduction to RSX-11M)
AA-2593E-TC (RSX-11M/S Documentation Directory)
AA-2573F-TC (RSX-11M/S Release Notes)
AA-2874D-TC (RSX-11S System Generation and Installation Guide)
AA-5245B-TC (RSX-11M Beginner's Guide)
AA-5430B-TC (RSX-11M V03.1 Master Index)
AA-H235A-TC (RMS-11 Installation Guide)
AA-H262A-TC (RSX-11M Mini-Index)
AA-H263A-TC (RSX-11M/M+ MCR Operations Manual)
AA-H264A-TC (RSX-11M/M+ Guide to Program Development)
AA-H265A-TC (RSX-11M/M+ Executive Reference Manual)
AA-H270A-TC (RSX-11M/M+ Error Logging Reference Manual)
AA-H271A-TC (RSX-11M/M+ User Mode Diagnostics Reference Manual)
AA-H272A-TC (RSX-11M/M+ Crash Dump Analyzer Reference Manual)
AA-H625A-TC (RSX-11M System Generation and Management Guide)
AA-H683A-TC (RMS-11 MACRO-11 Reference Manual)
DEC-11-LIBBB-A-D (BASIC-11 Language Reference Manual)
DEC-11-LIBIA-B-D (IAS/RSX BASIC User's Guide)
DEC-11-LIBJA-B-D (IAS/RSX BASIC Installation Guide)
DEC-11-OIMRA-B-D (IAS/RSX-11 MACRO-11 Reference Manual)
DEC-11-OIODA-B-D (IAS/RSX-11 ODT Reference Manual)
PDP-11 Fortran-77:
AA-V193A-TK (PDP-11 Fortran-77 Language Reference Manual)
AA-V194A-TK (PDP-11 Fortran-77 User's Guide)
AA-V195A-TK (PDP-11 Fortran-77 Object Time System Reference Manual)
AA-V196B-TK (PDP-11 Fortran-77 Installation Guide/Release Notes)
TECO:
TECO-11 V34 Release Notes - April 1979
TECO-11 V34 Basic Command Summary
TECO User's Guide and Reference Manual (TECO-11 V34, TECO-10 V1, TECO-8 V7)
VTEDIT V01.00 User's Manual
Non-DEC:
Artecon DSU Installation/User's Manual (Preliminary Edition) (2 copies)
Imagen 3320/7320 ImageServer XP User's Manual
Cipher Model 5400 Tape Backup System Installation Guide (incl. SY-TOS
User's Guide)
5:16 p.m.
On Jul 26, 2014, at 14:15 , Andrew Warkentin <andreww591 at gmail.com> wrote:
It's gone now. barrym from this list picked it up
last Tuesday.
Congratulations, barrym! If you would like to sell or trade away the RL02 packs
(especially the VMS 3.0 one), please contact me. I'd like to find an older VMS version
for my VAX-11/730.
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net>
http://www.nf6x.net/
5:37 p.m.
Well I'm glad someone got it, I was really wanting to get it but I
couldn't afford to take the 3 hour drive there and 3 hours back from
down here in Calgary. Hopefully someday I can find me an 11 here. Only
one I know of is an 11/05 sitting on a shelf in the computer repair
room at the UofC.
On 26/07/2014 3:15 PM, Andrew Warkentin wrote:
It's gone now. barrym from this list picked it up
last Tuesday.
9:02 p.m.
there some others in calgary still in service
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Hayden Kroepfl <perlpowers at gmail.com>
wrote:
Well I'm glad someone got it, I was really wanting
to get it but I
couldn't afford to take the 3 hour drive there and 3 hours back from
down here in Calgary. Hopefully someday I can find me an 11 here. Only
one I know of is an 11/05 sitting on a shelf in the computer repair
room at the UofC.
On 26/07/2014 3:15 PM, Andrew Warkentin wrote:
It's gone now. barrym from this list picked
it up last Tuesday.
27 Jul
27 Jul
8:07 a.m.
New subject: PDP-11s in Calgary - was Re: PDP-11/34 available in Edmonton, Alberta
On 27/07/14 12:02 AM, Adrian Stoness wrote:
there some others in calgary still in service
Details would be interesting to the list.
--Toby
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Hayden Kroepfl <perlpowers at gmail.com>
wrote:
Well I'm glad someone got it, I was really
wanting to get it but I
couldn't afford to take the 3 hour drive there and 3 hours back from
down here in Calgary. Hopefully someday I can find me an 11 here. Only
one I know of is an 11/05 sitting on a shelf in the computer repair
room at the UofC.
On 26/07/2014 3:15 PM, Andrew Warkentin wrote:
It's gone now. barrym from this list picked
it up last Tuesday.
7:04 p.m.
New subject: PDP-11s in Calgary - was Re: PDP-11/34 available in Edmonton, Alberta
My PDP-11/05 is functioning just fine in my basement in Langdon (near
Calgary)!! I haven't started on my PDP-11/20 nor my newly acquired
PDP-11/34 (from Edmonton).
--barrym
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Toby Thain <toby at telegraphics.com.au>
wrote:
On 27/07/14 12:02 AM, Adrian Stoness wrote:
there some others in calgary still in service
Details would be interesting to the list.
--Toby
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Hayden Kroepfl
<perlpowers at gmail.com>
wrote:
Well I'm glad someone got it, I was really wanting to get it but I
couldn't afford to take the 3 hour drive
there and 3 hours back from
down here in Calgary. Hopefully someday I can find me an 11 here. Only
one I know of is an 11/05 sitting on a shelf in the computer repair
room at the UofC.
On 26/07/2014 3:15 PM, Andrew Warkentin wrote:
It's gone now. barrym from this list picked
it up last Tuesday.
8:06 a.m.
On 26/07/14 8:37 PM, Hayden Kroepfl wrote:
Well I'm glad someone got it, I was really wanting
to get it but I
couldn't afford to take the 3 hour drive there and 3 hours back from
down here in Calgary. Hopefully someday I can find me an 11 here. Only
one I know of is an 11/05 sitting on a shelf in the computer repair
room at the UofC.
Is there a reason you can't get that one? Surely it's no longer needed
for spare parts :D
--Toby
On 26/07/2014 3:15 PM, Andrew Warkentin wrote:
It's gone now. barrym from this list picked
it up last Tuesday.
6 Jul
6 Jul
1:14 p.m.
one more disk may be in one of the drives since there
is a spare cover,
but I'm not sure
There may be disks in the drives, but the spare cover shouldn't come from
one of them. When you load a disk into an RL, you put the cover,
upside-down,, on top of the disk pack. If you don't, the cover interlock
switch doesn't operate when you close the drive, so it won't spin up, etc.
-tony
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