9 Jan
2018
9 Jan
'18
1:18 p.m.
Working from this page to configure my sparcstation 10 after NVRAM
replacement:
http://www.obsolyte.com/sunFAQ/faq_nvram.html
...but curious is there an installation manual or whatever specific to the
video card in my system, a TurboXGX with STP3010GPA chip
http://vintagecomputer.net/sun/SparcStation-10/Sun_STP3010PGA_TURBOXGX.jpg
I have Solaris 4 installed. I am guessing around trying different things.
With help I have the OS installed but so far I can't get the system to
recognize the video card and Sun keyboard. With these installed it freezes
the system...so, I am using a serial terminal to interact with the system.
The video display I have is an SGI GDM-20D11
Eventually I'll poke through to the solution, this is my first Sun box, up
to this point they were "too new" but I'd like to learn how to perform a
system install.
If I find the answers I am looking for I'll post here.
Bill
9 Jan
9 Jan
4:01 p.m.
Bill,
Are you sure the SGI monitor will work with the Sun graphics adapter? Just
because the plug fits doesn't mean the monitors are compatible, when it
comes to 13W3. It may be just transferring control to the video console and
*appear* to be locking up, and you're not getting anything out of the
display as a result.
Do you get diagnostic LED patterns on the keyboard LEDs?
Thanks,
Jonathan
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 4:18 PM, william degnan via cctech <
cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Working from this page to configure my sparcstation 10
after NVRAM
replacement:
http://www.obsolyte.com/sunFAQ/faq_nvram.html
...but curious is there an installation manual or whatever specific to the
video card in my system, a TurboXGX with STP3010GPA chip
http://vintagecomputer.net/sun/SparcStation-10/Sun_STP3010PGA_TURBOXGX.jpg
I have Solaris 4 installed. I am guessing around trying different things.
With help I have the OS installed but so far I can't get the system to
recognize the video card and Sun keyboard. With these installed it freezes
the system...so, I am using a serial terminal to interact with the system.
The video display I have is an SGI GDM-20D11
Eventually I'll poke through to the solution, this is my first Sun box, up
to this point they were "too new" but I'd like to learn how to perform a
system install.
If I find the answers I am looking for I'll post here.
Bill
11:40 p.m.
Jonathan may be on to something here. I only deal with Sun stuff and am
mostly unfamiliar with SGI stuff. However, I use LCD displays with
13W3-to-VGA adapters on my Suns and, relevant to this discussion, I know
that the adapters used with Suns are different from the ones with SGIs,
though I don't know the details.
alan
On 1/9/18 4:01 PM, systems_glitch via cctech wrote:
Bill,
Are you sure the SGI monitor will work with the Sun graphics adapter? Just
because the plug fits doesn't mean the monitors are compatible, when it
comes to 13W3. It may be just transferring control to the video console and
*appear* to be locking up, and you're not getting anything out of the
display as a result.
Do you get diagnostic LED patterns on the keyboard LEDs?
Thanks,
Jonathan
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 4:18 PM, william degnan via cctech <
cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Working from this page to configure my sparcstation 10 after NVRAM
> replacement:
> http://www.obsolyte.com/sunFAQ/faq_nvram.html
>
> ...but curious is there an installation manual or whatever specific to the
> video card in my system, a TurboXGX with STP3010GPA chip
> http://vintagecomputer.net/sun/SparcStation-10/Sun_STP3010PGA_TURBOXGX.jpg
>
> I have Solaris 4 installed. I am guessing around trying different things.
> With help I have the OS installed but so far I can't get the system to
> recognize the video card and Sun keyboard. With these installed it freezes
> the system...so, I am using a serial terminal to interact with the system.
> The video display I have is an SGI GDM-20D11
>
> Eventually I'll poke through to the solution, this is my first Sun box, up
> to this point they were "too new" but I'd like to learn how to perform
a
> system install.
>
> If I find the answers I am looking for I'll post here.
>
> Bill
>
11:44 p.m.
SGIs did sync on green. Sun uses a dedicated signal. SGI trinitron-based
(Sony OEM) monitors should handle both. If you boot your SS10 to the point
where you think it is dead and then unplug/replug the keyboard it should
bring you back to the ?ok? prompt. Shows the system is still running OK
without output.
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 at 07:40, Alan Perry via cctech <cctech at classiccmp.org>
wrote:
Jonathan may be on to something here. I only deal with
Sun stuff and am
mostly unfamiliar with SGI stuff. However, I use LCD displays with
13W3-to-VGA adapters on my Suns and, relevant to this discussion, I know
that the adapters used with Suns are different from the ones with SGIs,
though I don't know the details.
alan
On 1/9/18 4:01 PM, systems_glitch via cctech wrote:
-Jon
+44 7792 149029
Bill,
Are you sure the SGI monitor will work with the Sun graphics adapter?
Just
because the plug fits doesn't mean the
monitors are compatible, when it
comes to 13W3. It may be just transferring control to the video console
and
*appear* to be locking up, and you're not
getting anything out of the
display as a result.
Do you get diagnostic LED patterns on the keyboard LEDs?
Thanks,
Jonathan
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 4:18 PM, william degnan via cctech <
cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Working from this page to configure my sparcstation 10 after NVRAM
> replacement:
> http://www.obsolyte.com/sunFAQ/faq_nvram.html
>
> ...but curious is there an installation manual or whatever specific to
the
> video card in my system, a TurboXGX with
STP3010GPA chip
>
http://vintagecomputer.net/sun/SparcStation-10/Sun_STP3010PGA_TURBOXGX.jpg
>
> I have Solaris 4 installed. I am guessing around trying different
things.
> With help I have the OS installed but so far
I can't get the system to
> recognize the video card and Sun keyboard. With these installed it
freezes
> the system...so, I am using a serial terminal
to interact with the
system.
> The video display I have is an SGI GDM-20D11
>
> Eventually I'll poke through to the solution, this is my first Sun box,
up
> to this point they were "too new"
but I'd like to learn how to perform a
> system install.
>
> If I find the answers I am looking for I'll post here.
>
> Bill
>
-- 
11:54 p.m.
Freeze as in "screen stays blank (but pressing caps lock changes the LED)",
or "system does not boot at all", or "system boots but locks up when
initializing graphics"?
I assume it's just the screen staying blank. Note that using an SGI monitor
on a sun using a 13W3 to 13W3 cable will not work. There's 2 ways around
it: you can either use a 13W3 to BNC cable connected to a BNC to 13W3 cable
to connect the monitor, thus disconnecting all non-RGB pins, or you can cut
off the extra (non-RGB) pins on either side of the cable (I've successfully
done that to connect SGI machines to SUN monitors but it should work the
other way around too).
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:18 PM, william degnan via cctech <
cctech at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Working from this page to configure my sparcstation 10
after NVRAM
replacement:
http://www.obsolyte.com/sunFAQ/faq_nvram.html
...but curious is there an installation manual or whatever specific to the
video card in my system, a TurboXGX with STP3010GPA chip
http://vintagecomputer.net/sun/SparcStation-10/Sun_STP3010PGA_TURBOXGX.jpg
I have Solaris 4 installed. I am guessing around trying different things.
With help I have the OS installed but so far I can't get the system to
recognize the video card and Sun keyboard. With these installed it freezes
the system...so, I am using a serial terminal to interact with the system.
The video display I have is an SGI GDM-20D11
Eventually I'll poke through to the solution, this is my first Sun box, up
to this point they were "too new" but I'd like to learn how to perform a
system install.
If I find the answers I am looking for I'll post here.
Bill
10 Jan
10 Jan
4:03 a.m.
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Rico Pajarola via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I assume it's just the screen staying blank. Note
that using an SGI monitor
on a sun using a 13W3 to 13W3 cable will not work. There's 2 ways around
it: you can either use a 13W3 to BNC cable connected to a BNC to 13W3 cable
to connect the monitor, thus disconnecting all non-RGB pins, or you can cut
off the extra (non-RGB) pins on either side of the cable (I've successfully
done that to connect SGI machines to SUN monitors but it should work the
other way around too).
I may have gotten the SUNW system -> SGI Monitor thing backwards. There are
cobwebs in this part of my brain!
5:56 a.m.
Yeah, I use a 13W3 adapter and a VGA Samsung SyncMaster LCD on my bench.
The adapter is generic and happens to work on both Sun and SGI machines (as
mentioned, this is not guaranteed).
Thanks,
Jonathan
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 7:03 AM, Jonathan Katz via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Rico Pajarola via
cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
I assume it's just the screen staying blank.
Note that using an SGI
monitor
on a sun using a 13W3 to 13W3 cable will not
work. There's 2 ways around
it: you can either use a 13W3 to BNC cable connected to a BNC to 13W3
cable
to connect the monitor, thus disconnecting all
non-RGB pins, or you can
cut
off the extra (non-RGB) pins on either side of
the cable (I've
successfully
done that to connect SGI machines to SUN monitors
but it should work the
other way around too).
I may have gotten the SUNW system -> SGI Monitor thing backwards. There are
cobwebs in this part of my brain!
6:23 a.m.
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:56 AM, systems_glitch via cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Yeah, I use a 13W3 adapter and a VGA Samsung
SyncMaster LCD on my bench.
The adapter is generic and happens to work on both Sun and SGI machines (as
mentioned, this is not guaranteed).
Thanks,
Jonathan
At this point I see the scrolling bars of a synch issue. I can drop using
STOP A to the OK prompt (even though I can't actually see it) and run the
boot command from the keyboard confirming that I can at least use the
keyboard now and initiate a reboot without serial terminal. So my machine
is probably getting closer to what I wanted even if so far I don't have the
correct display / cable combo installed. I have a lot of displays and
13W3/4 wire/VGA converter cables/etc to mess around with so sooner or later
I will get one.
Bill
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