22 Oct
2007
22 Oct
'07
3:33 p.m.
Hi gang,
I have plugged a PC
kybd/mouse into a SGI Crimson and an Octane
and they seemed to work OK.
Needed a special cable
so I used a Sun cable on the SGI monitor.
Worked OK.
Have not tried any other monitors.
Regards
Ray vk2ilv
Can I use a PC mouse/keyboard with that?
You cannot. You need to use a SGI keyboard and mouse. Are the monitor frequencies suitable for a modern PC
monitor?
They aren't. It's sync-on-green, so you either need a good monitor and
you definitively need an adaptor. 
22 Oct
22 Oct
3:47 p.m.
In article <200710222233.l9MMXKM05285 at srsuna.shlrc.mq.edu.au>,
Ray Robinson <robinson at shlrc.mq.edu.au> writes:
I have plugged a PC
kybd/mouse into a SGI Crimson and an Octane
and they seemed to work OK.
The Crimson and Octane are much later in the product line than the
Indigo. The Indigo is after the Personal Iris but before the Indigo^2
or Indy. There's a point where SGI switched to using PS/2 compatible
keyboard/mouse connectors, but prior to that they used a special
interface that would either fry the interface circuitry or the
kbd/mouse if you tried to use a PS/2 compatible kbd/mouse on them.
The frustrating part is that the connector is identical but the
voltages and pinouts are wrong.
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Can I use a PC
mouse/keyboard with that?
You cannot. You need to use a SGI keyboard and mouse. 
23 Oct
23 Oct
11:31 a.m.
On 2007-10-23 0:47, Richard wrote:
The Crimson and Octane are much later in the product
line than the
Indigo.
Crimson is a peer of Indigo. It is the higher-end workstation from that same
period. It was replaced by the RealityStation (single-CPU Onyx) about the
time of the Indigo2/Indy.
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12:03 p.m.
In article <C3440AAC.4917B%jvdg at sparcpark.net>,
Joost van de Griek <jvdg at sparcpark.net> writes:
On 2007-10-23 0:47, Richard wrote:
My mistake, thanks for the correction! My SGI knowledge is shaky, but
I learn more by being corrected :).
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The Crimson and Octane are much later in the
product line than the
Indigo.
Crimson is a peer of Indigo. It is the higher-end workstation from that same
period. It was replaced by the RealityStation (single-CPU Onyx) about the
time of the Indigo2/Indy.
1:39 p.m.
On 2007-10-23 21:03, Richard wrote:
In article <C3440AAC.4917B%jvdg at
sparcpark.net>,
Joost van de Griek <jvdg at sparcpark.net> writes:
We all do.
Here's a nice illustration, the IRIS family tree (unfortunately it ends at
the Onyx2/Octane/O2 era):
<http://neil.franklin.ch/Info_Texts/IRIS_Family_Tree.jpg>
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On 2007-10-23 0:47, Richard wrote:
My mistake, thanks for the correction! My SGI knowledge is shaky, but
I learn more by being corrected :). The Crimson and Octane are much later in the
product line than the
Indigo.
Crimson is a peer of Indigo. It is the higher-end workstation from that same
period. It was replaced by the RealityStation (single-CPU Onyx) about the
time of the Indigo2/Indy. 
22 Oct
22 Oct
4:01 p.m.
On 22/10/2007 23:33, Ray Robinson wrote:
The Octane uses a standard PS/2 keyboard and mouse, so that's not
surprising. The Crimson uses a PC-compatible keyboard though with a
non-standard (to the PC world) DA-15 connector, but uses an SGI mouse
rather like the older Sun mice and not PC-compatible. Neither the
Indigo mouse or keyboard are PC-compatible, but you can make an adapter
to convert the protocols -- see http://rshockley.dyndns.org/indigo.htm
>> Can I
use a PC mouse/keyboard with that?
> You cannot. You need to use a SGI keyboard and mouse.
I have plugged a PC
kybd/mouse into a SGI Crimson and an Octane
and they seemed to work OK. Needed a special cable
so I used a Sun cable on the SGI monitor.
That would be a 13W3 cable. It may be worth noting that later version
used more pins for monitor ID, and used one or two pins for sync -- on
connections that use those, the Sun pinout is different from the SGI pinout.
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4:20 p.m.
On topic with Iris Indigo's, has anyone noticed how vandalized
www.irisindigo.com has become? Total shame.
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5:41 p.m.
In article <af4d09740710221620pa1e3e0tc371d5963391ec93 at mail.gmail.com>,
"James Rice" <james.rice at gmail.com> writes:
On topic with Iris Indigo's, has anyone noticed
how vandalized
www.irisindigo.com has become? Total shame.
That's what happens when you allow anyone to create an account and
edit a wiki. There's wiki spam software now that looks for wikis and
edits all these bullshit URLs into pages. I just nuked what I found
there and put a watch on those pages. Eventually you get sick of
despamming it and lock down account creation; although it looks like
this spam software creates an account for spamming, performs the edit,
and then deletes the account. Either that, or its exploiting the wiki
package somehow (not surprising if that's the case).
Does anyone know how to contact the owner of the domain?
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6:11 p.m.
On 22 Oct 2007 at 18:41, Richard wrote:
Does anyone know how to contact the owner of the
domain?
Domain Name: IRISINDIGO.COM
Registrant:
N.A.
Eric (brokebit at brokenbytes.org)
9024 Ewing Ave.
Evanston
IL,60203
US
Tel. +1.8477639713
But a reverse lookup on the street address shows:
Stonitsch, Lonnette M & Lonnie
9024 Ewing Ave
Evanston, IL 60203-1909
(847) 763-9713
Maybe this helps?
Chuck
6:21 p.m.
In article <471CE7B8.31698.1E5E5AE at cclist.sydex.com>,
"Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> writes:
Maybe this helps?
Yes, it helps, thanks. I emailed the owner and nuked all the spam I
could find.
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6:26 p.m.
On 10/22/07, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
On 22 Oct 2007 at 18:41, Richard wrote:
Eric is local to me and I've traded with him a bit. I don't recall
why irisindigo was abandoned but it was probably for lack of time,
like most projects. I do remember him saying he got tired of keeping
up with the spammers. Maybe someone else would like to take it on?
Does anyone know how to contact the owner of the
domain?
Domain Name: IRISINDIGO.COM
Eric (email) 
23 Oct
23 Oct
12:13 a.m.
On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 20:26 -0500, Jason T wrote:
like most projects. I do remember him saying he got
tired of keeping
up with the spammers.
Akismet. Just about makes forums, wikis etc usable...
Let's try not to get into *why* people in the US seem to think it's OK
to vandalise people's websites to try and encourage people to buy
medicine from Canada. I don't understand why you'd do that anyway.
Gordon
8:31 a.m.
In article <51ea77730710221826u7a5777b4h89ed9f3039068235 at mail.gmail.com>,
"Jason T" <silent700 at gmail.com> writes:
On 10/22/07, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com>
wrote:
If he just locks down account creation to require approval before
accounts are granted and lock down edits so that only those with
registered accounts can edit, it will be fine on its own. That's what
I suggested in email to him after nuking all the spam.
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On 22 Oct 2007 at 18:41, Richard wrote:
Eric is local to me and I've traded with him a bit. I don't recall
why irisindigo was abandoned but it was probably for lack of time,
like most projects. I do remember him saying he got tired of keeping
up with the spammers. Maybe someone else would like to take it on? Does anyone know how to contact the owner of the
domain?
Domain Name: IRISINDIGO.COM
Eric (email)
8:35 a.m.
The spam has mostly all come back after only a single day. Without
locking down the site, it will just come back every single day because
its being edited back in by a bot.
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28 Oct
28 Oct
8:08 a.m.
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, James Rice wrote:
On topic with Iris Indigo's, has anyone noticed
how vandalized
www.irisindigo.com has become? Total shame.
Yuck. Has anyone tried pinging the site owner?
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7 Nov
7 Nov
9:39 a.m.
In article <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0710281108390.16459 at duo>,
Steven Hirsch <snhirsch at gmail.com> writes:
Yuck. Has anyone tried pinging the site owner?
You're behind on this thread :-). Yes. No response though.
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22 Oct
22 Oct
4:14 p.m.
Ray Robinson wrote:
Hi gang,
Octane yes, Crimson no. Indigo no, Indigo^2 yes. Onyx no.
Peace... Sridhar
>> Can I use a PC mouse/keyboard with that?
> You cannot. You need to use a SGI keyboard and mouse.
I have plugged a PC
kybd/mouse into a SGI Crimson and an Octane
and they seemed to work OK.
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