11 Feb
2006
11 Feb
'06
12:18 p.m.
Umm... is this really the typical going price for a DECWriter IV,
or is it another ebay frenzy?
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11 Feb
1:29 p.m.
New subject: eBay Item Not Won: Vintage Digital DECWriter IV terminal, DEC, serial (8761560822)
On 2/11/2006 at 1:18 PM Richard wrote:
Umm... is this really the typical going price for a
DECWriter IV,
or is it another ebay frenzy?
It wasn't the DECWriter, it was the two free ribbons that drove the price
up. Maybe it was the "white" color--but weren't these things painted at
the factory? If color was that important, seems like $3 for an aerosol
can of the appropriate paint might be a better deal.
Cheers,
Chuck
1:43 p.m.
On Saturday 11 February 2006 16:29, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 2/11/2006 at 1:18 PM Richard wrote:
I hope it wasn't because of the ribbons; about two years ago when I got my
(first) DW4, I spent $20-25 at the local office supply store to get a pair of
new ribbons for it. They had to be special ordered, but it wasn't all *that*
expensive.
That it's actually working is more impressive to me; I have had 2 for 2 with
symptoms of a bad power supply. The latest one (which I still have) is
waiting patiently for me to have time to fix it.
Pat
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Umm... is this really the typical going price for
a DECWriter IV,
or is it another ebay frenzy?
It wasn't the DECWriter, it was the two free ribbons that drove the price
up. Maybe it was the "white" color--but weren't these things painted at
the factory? If color was that important, seems like $3 for an aerosol
can of the appropriate paint might be a better deal. 
12 Feb
12 Feb
2:12 p.m.
--- Patrick Finnegan <pat at computer-refuge.org> wrote:
On Saturday 11 February 2006 16:29, Chuck Guzis
wrote:
I would attribute the price to a buyer with deep pockets, perhaps he
will de-lurk. I never understood the appeal of the Decwriter IV, or
any other platen-ed teleprinters with pinfeed, tractor feed, or other
auto-jamming mechanisms.
Then again, they did look nice, and had keyboard feel on par with the
first-generation C. Itoh 101, superior to any VT100 or VT220.
There are still quite a few PDP-11, VAX, and Alpha end-users out there,
who need replacement parts. I happily sold my Decwriter IV two years
ago for a king's ransom to a gentleman with an alarm monitoring system.
Those needing KSR units don't have many options.
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On 2/11/2006 at 1:18 PM Richard wrote:
>Umm... is this really the typical going price for a DECWriter IV,
>or is it another ebay frenzy?
That it's actually working is more impressive to me; I have had 2 for
2 with
symptoms of a bad power supply. The latest one (which I still have)
is
waiting patiently for me to have time to fix it.
2:23 p.m.
New subject: eBay Item Not Won: Vintage Digital DECWriter IV terminal, DEC, serial (8761560822)
On 2/12/2006 at 2:12 PM Mo wrote:
There are still quite a few PDP-11, VAX, and Alpha
end-users out there,
who need replacement parts. I happily sold my Decwriter IV two years
ago for a king's ransom to a gentleman with an alarm monitoring system.
Those needing KSR units don't have many options.
Is there any reason that a dumb terminal with a printer attached wouldn't
have worked?
13 Feb
13 Feb
8:32 p.m.
On 2/12/06, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
On 2/12/2006 at 2:12 PM Mo wrote:
There are two DECwriter II here, which look like small study desks,
waiting to be dumped. I guess $10 can buy two.
vax, 9000
There are still quite a few PDP-11, VAX, and Alpha
end-users out there,
who need replacement parts. I happily sold my Decwriter IV two years
ago for a king's ransom to a gentleman with an alarm monitoring system.
Those needing KSR units don't have many options.
Is there any reason that a dumb terminal with a printer attached wouldn't
have worked?
8:41 p.m.
I, too, have access to a pair of Decwriter IIIs but they ould have to
be shipped freight or delivered in the NW.
Paxton
Astoria, Oregon
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9:35 p.m.
New subject: PDP11/34 Mega Racks on Ebay...
Not mine... a LOT of nice equipment, make a Best Offer... In OH:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-DEC-PDP1134-Mainframe-Racks-Disc-n-Tape-Drives_…
Curt
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10:06 p.m.
New subject: PDP11/34 Mega Racks on Ebay...
In article <43F16C11.40106 at atarimuseum.com>,
"Curt @ Atari Museum" <curt at atarimuseum.com> writes:
Not mine... a LOT of nice equipment, make a Best
Offer... In OH:
Holy shit that's nice. Medical imaging. YUM!
It would be crazy, man, crazy.
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14 Feb
2:17 a.m.
New subject: PDP11/34 Mega Racks on Ebay...
On 2/14/06, Curt @ Atari Museum <curt at atarimuseum.com> wrote:
Not mine... a LOT of nice equipment, make a Best
Offer... In OH:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-DEC-PDP1134-Mainframe-Racks-Disc-n-Tape-Drives_…
$4,999 BIN?!? Dream on.
I wonder what offer they'll get. I have an 11/34, so it's not
something I'll pursue, but it'll be nice if you live close enough to
go get it (and they really do take the "best" offer).
-ethan
8:58 a.m.
New subject: PDP11/34 Mega Racks on Ebay...
In article <f4eb766f0602140217l1c2a09a3v224037d544a34f53 at mail.gmail.com>,
Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> writes:
On 2/14/06, Curt @ Atari Museum <curt at
atarimuseum.com> wrote:
> Not mine... a LOT of nice equipment, make a Best Offer... In OH:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-DEC-PDP1134-Mainframe-Racks-Disc-n-Tape-Drives_
W0QQitemZ8754863240QQcategoryZ1247QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebaypho
tohosting
$4,999 BIN?!? Dream on.
So what do you think is a fair offer for this? Remember that the
medical imaging peripherals are probably a one-of or handfull-of at
this point. When I look at this, I don't see the 11/34 as the piece
that's worthy of the pricetag, its the ensemble plus the rare
imaging/graphics peripherals. Unless those peripherals and a similar
system are easy to put together from pieces, but I'm not seeing those
peripherals offered anywhere in the time I've been paying attention
over the last year or so.
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13 Feb
13 Feb
9:57 p.m.
In article <ded268c40602132041n583231f4y6fd887ea7f359b7b at mail.gmail.com>,
Paxton Hoag <innfoclassics at gmail.com> writes:
I, too, have access to a pair of Decwriter IIIs but
they ould have to
be shipped freight or delivered in the NW.
Wait, so far there has been mention of:
LA-36 DECwriter II
LA-120 DECwriter III
and
DECwriter IV (dunno its LA- designation?)
I have an LA-120 and am looking for an LA-36 (or a pair) and a
DECwriter IV.
Does anyone have DEC lineprinters or other printers w/out keyboards in
their collections? Pictures?
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7:55 p.m.
New subject: eBay Item Not Won: Vintage Digital DECWriter IV terminal, DEC,
Does anyone have DEC lineprinters or other printers w/out keyboards in
their collections? Pictures?
I've got at least one LA100 (receive-only) in my collection (and I think
a KSR one with a keyboard).
Externally these look like a DECwriter 4, but have redesigned internals,
with a printhead that's shiffted up and down mechancially to give twice
the verical resouliton (the NLQ font is printed in 2 passes, one with the
head in each posuition).
-tony
17 Feb
17 Feb
7:35 p.m.
--- Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
On 2/12/2006 at 2:12 PM Mo wrote:
Several. Depends on your intent.
In my case, most of the teleprinters served as journals for alarms and
operator intervention, critical database update logging, access control
logging, and electronic funds transfers. Introducing a CRT would not
only allow for mischief, but given the varying competency of the
personnel, but in my experience, it is impossible to keep an attached
printer printing 100% of the time. (Not that Decwriter IV's work 100%
either - II's and III's, bottom-fed, and TI820 KSR's were optimal.)
Retaining the console-ish logs, stacked neatly in their original
3000-sheet fanfold form, in the paper box, in a vault facility, proved
useful many times, versus machine-readable methods, when client's
customers, They weren't the easiest to search if you don't have a
good time reference, but were virtually indisputable.
In today's Windoze-client environs, such a direct approach would not be
accepted, as it would be considered unfair to deny the operator(s) the
right to play Solitaire, chat on AIM, or "surf". Do I sound grumpy?
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There are still quite a few PDP-11, VAX, and Alpha
end-users out
there,
who need replacement parts. I happily sold my
Decwriter IV two
years
ago for a king's ransom to a gentleman with an
alarm monitoring
system.
Those needing KSR units don't have many
options.
Is there any reason that a dumb terminal with a printer attached
wouldn't
have worked?
18 Feb
18 Feb
2:42 a.m.
On 2/17/06, Mo <molists at yahoo.com> wrote:
In today's Windoze-client environs, such a direct
approach would not be
accepted, as it would be considered unfair to deny the operator(s) the
right to play Solitaire, chat on AIM, or "surf". Do I sound grumpy?
I recall when a $500,000 Fujitsu pick-n-place machine for an Lucent
SMT assembly line was idled when the operator rebooted its optical
recognition computer to play solitaire...
-ethan
11 Feb
11 Feb
3:44 p.m.
I forgot to mention it sold for $260 + shipping. It seemed a little
pricey to me.
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