29 Dec
2005
29 Dec
'05
9:27 p.m.
Does anyone know of a good on-line reference to VMS internals.
I'm not looking for anything too in-depth. At the moment, I'm
mostly looking for something along the lines of "here are the
major components and how they fit together." I've got most
of an orange wall and a copy of the old software handbook,
but I'm not finding anything like that there. I know about
the VMS Internals and Data Structures book and if I have to
I'll find a copy, but I'm not really looking for something
that detailed anyway.
Thanks in advance,
Brian L. Stuart
29 Dec
29 Dec
10:03 p.m.
At 8:27 PM -0600 12/29/05, Brian L. Stuart wrote:
Does anyone know of a good on-line reference to VMS
internals.
I'm not looking for anything too in-depth. At the moment, I'm
mostly looking for something along the lines of "here are the
major components and how they fit together." I've got most
of an orange wall and a copy of the old software handbook,
but I'm not finding anything like that there. I know about
the VMS Internals and Data Structures book and if I have to
I'll find a copy, but I'm not really looking for something
that detailed anyway.
Thanks in advance,
Brian L. Stuart
As far as I know, there isn't anything online.
The books that come to mind are the following (in other words they're
on my shelf):
VMS Internals and Data Structures
VAX/VMS Operating System Concepts
VMS File System Internals
VAXcluster Principles
I think the Operating System Concepts might be what you're looking
at, it was updated in '97 as "OpenVMS Operating System Concepts"
(unfortunately I don't have a copy of the 2nd Ed.). Last I checked,
it's very difficult to get the last two books, it took me several
years to get my copies. But then getting copies of the latest I&DS
books aren't exactly easy :^(
Zane
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10:09 p.m.
I have the VMS General User's Manual, VMS Ver 5.0 April 1988
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At 8:27 PM -0600 12/29/05, Brian L. Stuart wrote:
Does anyone know of a good on-line reference to
VMS internals.
I'm not looking for anything too in-depth. At the moment, I'm
mostly looking for something along the lines of "here are the
major components and how they fit together." I've got most
of an orange wall and a copy of the old software handbook,
but I'm not finding anything like that there. I know about
the VMS Internals and Data Structures book and if I have to
I'll find a copy, but I'm not really looking for something
that detailed anyway.
Thanks in advance,
Brian L. Stuart
As far as I know, there isn't anything online.
The books that come to mind are the following (in other words they're on
my shelf):
VMS Internals and Data Structures
VAX/VMS Operating System Concepts
VMS File System Internals
VAXcluster Principles
I think the Operating System Concepts might be what you're looking at, it
was updated in '97 as "OpenVMS Operating System Concepts" (unfortunately I
don't have a copy of the 2nd Ed.). Last I checked, it's very difficult to
get the last two books, it took me several years to get my copies. But
then getting copies of the latest I&DS books aren't exactly easy :^(
Zane
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| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator |
| healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
10:16 p.m.
At 9:09 PM -0600 12/29/05, Keys wrote:
I have the VMS General User's Manual, VMS Ver 5.0
April 1988
That and the "System Managers Manual" are still two of the most
useful VMS books ever published as far as I'm concerned. I still use
the V5.x "System Managers Manual", and have the entire set of six
books that make up the basic V5 set here at home, while all the rest
of my Grey wall, as well as V6.x and V7.2 manuals are in storage.
But, these books don't have anything to do with VMS internals.
Zane
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11:37 p.m.
In article <a06200782bfda56684ffc(a)[192.168.1.199]>9]>,
"Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com> writes:
At 9:09 PM -0600 12/29/05, Keys wrote:
I was recently gifted a VAXserver 4000/300, presumably running VMS.
I've just purchased some MMJ cabling from ebay, so soon I will be
booting this boy up. The system came with no docs at all,
unfortunately. My 11/03 has a complete provenance from the original
owner to me :).
However, I've never used VMS. Does anyone have a spare set of VMS
documentation they'd be willing to donate/sell?
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I have the VMS General User's Manual, VMS Ver
5.0 April 1988
That and the "System Managers Manual" are still two of the most
useful VMS books ever published as far as I'm concerned. [...]
11:43 p.m.
At 9:37 PM -0700 12/29/05, Richard wrote:
However, I've never used VMS. Does anyone have a
spare set of VMS
documentation they'd be willing to donate/sell?
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/
Zane
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11:48 p.m.
In article <a06200783bfda6b322f80(a)[192.168.1.199]>9]>,
"Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com> writes:
At 9:37 PM -0700 12/29/05, Richard wrote:
Awesome, thanks! I admit I'm having a devil of a time finding the
right information in the labyrinth of hp/compaq web servers.
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However, I've never used VMS. Does anyone
have a spare set of VMS
documentation they'd be willing to donate/sell?
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/
30 Dec
30 Dec
12:42 a.m.
At 9:48 PM -0700 12/29/05, Richard wrote:
Awesome, thanks! I admit I'm having a devil of a time finding the
right information in the labyrinth of hp/compaq web servers.
I know what you mean, I'm *just* finally starting to understand how
to go direct to what I want. For example
http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/ takes you to the main page, while
http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/doc/ takes you to the above URL.
If all else fails, http://www.openvms.compaq.com still gets you to
the main page (it's how I've been getting there).
Zane
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| healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
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+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
2 Jan
2 Jan
5:40 p.m.
There's also the
"OpenVMS System Management Guide" published by HP/Elsevier.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1555582435/qid=1136241460/sr=8-9/ref=sr_8_…
Still in print, and available via the old standby Amazon, though you can
probably find better pricing, if you look.
David
On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 21:42 -0800, Zane H. Healy wrote:
At 9:48 PM -0700 12/29/05, Richard wrote:
Awesome, thanks! I admit I'm having a devil of a time finding the
right information in the labyrinth of hp/compaq web servers.
I know what you mean, I'm *just* finally starting to understand how
to go direct to what I want. For example
http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/ takes you to the main page, while
http://www.hp.com/go/openvms/doc/ takes you to the above URL.
If all else fails, http://www.openvms.compaq.com still gets you to
the main page (it's how I've been getting there).
Zane
31 Dec
31 Dec
11:46 a.m.
In message <a06200781bfda51842a95(a)[192.168.1.199]>9]>, "Zane H. Healy"
writes:
As far as I know, there isn't anything online.
The books that come to mind are the following (in other words they're
on my shelf):
VMS Internals and Data Structures
VAX/VMS Operating System Concepts
VMS File System Internals
VAXcluster Principles
Thanks for the info. Looks like I'll have to look into getting
either the Internal and Data Structures or the Concepts book.
In the mean time, I'll try to piece together some general description
from what I've got.
Thanks,
Brian L. Stuart
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