12 Jun
2012
12 Jun
'12
11:12 p.m.
I have looked through bitsavers and some other old vax manual repositories online and I
haven't found a manual for the DEC VT1300. I did an installation and service manual
for the VR320 monitors I have, but they only cover the display. I have worked out alot of
details about the vt1300 system, and have gotten one working 100%, but haven't figured
out what terminal emulation the terminal personality of the unit uses. It works 95% with
the vax 3900 I have it attached to, but from time to time I see what I assume as vt100
control codes in the output stream. I assumed that that unit used vt100 emulation out of
the box, and that the vax console would go this way as well, but perhaps I'm wrong.
It could be that the vax is vt52 some other terminal type by default, or that the 1300
does vt102, or vt220...
Kevin
13 Jun
13 Jun
6:49 a.m.
On 06/12/2012 07:12 PM, Kevin Reynolds wrote:
I have looked through bitsavers and some other old vax
manual
repositories online and I haven't found a manual for the DEC VT1300.
I did an installation and service manual for the VR320 monitors I
have, but they only cover the display. I have worked out alot of
details about the vt1300 system, and have gotten one working 100%,
but haven't figured out what terminal emulation the terminal
personality of the unit uses. It works 95% with the vax 3900 I have
it attached to, but from time to time I see what I assume as vt100
control codes in the output stream. I assumed that that unit used
vt100 emulation out of the box, and that the vax console would go
this way as well, but perhaps I'm wrong. It could be that the vax is
vt52 some other terminal type by default, or that the 1300 does
vt102, or vt220...
I assume you're running VMS?
What exactly are you seeing? It's possible (even likely) that you're
seeing overruns. Try dropping the baud rate, just experimentally, to
see if the problem goes away.
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
8:32 a.m.
The 3900/uvax III is running VMS. The terminal doesnt have an OS, its just in DTE mode.
I haven't figured out how to change the terminals settings. This is why I was looking
for the manual.
Kevin
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 02:49:01 -0400
From: mcguire at neurotica.com
To:
Subject: Re: DEC VT1300 (VXT1300) manual around
On 06/12/2012 07:12 PM, Kevin Reynolds wrote:
I have looked through bitsavers and some other
old vax manual
repositories online and I haven't found a manual for the DEC VT1300.
I did an installation and service manual for the VR320 monitors I
have, but they only cover the display. I have worked out alot of
details about the vt1300 system, and have gotten one working 100%,
but haven't figured out what terminal emulation the terminal
personality of the unit uses. It works 95% with the vax 3900 I have
it attached to, but from time to time I see what I assume as vt100
control codes in the output stream. I assumed that that unit used
vt100 emulation out of the box, and that the vax console would go
this way as well, but perhaps I'm wrong. It could be that the vax is
vt52 some other terminal type by default, or that the 1300 does
vt102, or vt220...
I assume you're running VMS?
What exactly are you seeing? It's possible (even likely) that you're
seeing overruns. Try dropping the baud rate, just experimentally, to
see if the problem goes away.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA 
6:11 p.m.
In article <BLU157-W9397E08E6A770CFA9F508A2F60 at phx.gbl>,
Kevin Reynolds <tpresence at hotmail.com> writes:
I have looked through bitsavers and some other old vax
manual repositories
online and I haven't found a manual for the DEC VT1300.
Did you try looking here:
<http://manx.classiccmp.org/mirror/antonio>
<http://manx.classiccmp.org/mirror/mds-199909/>
These aren't all in the manx database.
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14 Jun
14 Jun
12:45 a.m.
Strangely enough, they seem to have everything EXCEPT the vt1300 :(
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: DEC VT1300 (VXT1300) manual around
From: legalize at xmission.com
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 12:11:31 -0600
In article <BLU157-W9397E08E6A770CFA9F508A2F60 at phx.gbl>,
Kevin Reynolds <tpresence at hotmail.com> writes:
I have looked through bitsavers and some other
old vax manual repositories
online and I haven't found a manual for the DEC VT1300.
Did you try looking here:
<http://manx.classiccmp.org/mirror/antonio>
<http://manx.classiccmp.org/mirror/mds-199909/>
These aren't all in the manx database.
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4:16 p.m.
In article <BLU157-W4654E85E7E00A15C8F4256A2F40 at phx.gbl>,
Kevin Reynolds <tpresence at hotmail.com> writes:
Strangely enough, they seem to have everything EXCEPT
the vt1300 :(
The 1300 is very similar to the 1200, but uses a different OS.
You'll need a system that can supply the VAXELN operating system to
the terminal.
This article from Digital Technical Journal describes the X terminals
made by DEC, including the VT1300:
<ftp://ftp.linux-mips.org/pub/linux/mips/people/macro/DEC/DTJ/DTJ402/DTJ402PF.PDF>
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7:28 p.m.
Richard,
Actually, the EWS (ELN Workstation Software) is part of a freeware package dec produced
some time ago. But this only matters if you want to use the terminal in x-windows mode,
which I may eventually do. I do have a microvax III system that could supply the OS, but
I haven't gotten that far yet.
The nice thing about the 1300 is that they provided dumb terminal capability as well.
There is a switch on the rear of the unit that allows you to select what personality it
is, graphics or text. Of course, for the time being, I have it being used as a dumb
terminal. My only real issue is that no terminal type seems to work 100% with the unit.
I have tried every available setting, as well as changing baud rates and such, but I
haven't had any luck.
The terminal works, but any escape characters just get printed to the screen. If I set it
to any VT type, at least backspace works.
Kevin
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: DEC VT1300 (VXT1300) manual around
From: legalize at xmission.com
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:16:02 -0600
In article <BLU157-W4654E85E7E00A15C8F4256A2F40 at phx.gbl>,
Kevin Reynolds <tpresence at hotmail.com> writes:
Strangely enough, they seem to have everything
EXCEPT the vt1300 :(
The 1300 is very similar to the 1200, but uses a different OS.
You'll need a system that can supply the VAXELN operating system to
the terminal.
This article from Digital Technical Journal describes the X terminals
made by DEC, including the VT1300:
<ftp://ftp.linux-mips.org/pub/linux/mips/people/macro/DEC/DTJ/DTJ402/DTJ402PF.PDF>
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15 Jun
15 Jun
2:35 p.m.
In article <BLU157-W43E9C1FF7E3151B366F5CA2F40 at phx.gbl>,
Kevin Reynolds <tpresence at hotmail.com> writes:
The nice thing about the 1300 is that they provided
dumb terminal
capability as well. There is a switch on the rear of the unit that allows
you to select what personality it is, graphics or text. Of course, for the
time being, I have it being used as a dumb terminal. My only real issue is
that no terminal type seems to work 100% with the unit. I have tried every
available setting, as well as changing baud rates and such, but I haven't
had any luck.
I guess this isn't so surprising; the terminal mode is probably only
considered a stopgap measure until you can configure the X Window
System to work properly.
The terminal works, but any escape characters just get
printed to the
screen. If I set it to any VT type, at least backspace works.
You'd be surprised how much code it is to support the full VT100
escape sequence set :-).
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