10 May
2009
10 May
'09
2:32 p.m.
<http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=2332173&convertTo=USD>
GOULD CHASSIS CONCEPT/ 32 SERIAL #285015, . MUTILATION NOT REQUIRED.
<http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=2332177&convertTo=USD>
GOULD KENNEDY TAPE DRIVE MODEL #9220, SERIAL #VGM-02039, . MUTILATION
NOT REQUIRED.
Looks fairly intact from the pictures. Auction ends 5/11, tommorrow.
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11 May
11 May
1:16 p.m.
New subject: govliq: Gould Concept/32 model 32/67 & Kennedy 9-track tape (Jacksonville, FL)
Richard wrote:
<http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=2332173&convertTo=USD>
GOULD CHASSIS CONCEPT/ 32 SERIAL #285015, . MUTILATION NOT REQUIRED.
I hope someone can pick this up. Gould Series 32 machines are getting
pretty rare.
1:24 p.m.
New subject: govliq: Gould Concept/32 model 32/67 & Kennedy 9-track tape (Jacksonville, FL)
On May 11, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
I would grab it in a heartbeat, but I don't think I could swing it
financially right now.
-Dave
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<http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=2332173&convertTo=USD>
GOULD CHASSIS CONCEPT/ 32 SERIAL #285015, . MUTILATION NOT REQUIRED.
I hope someone can pick this up. Gould Series 32 machines are getting
pretty rare. 
1:35 p.m.
New subject: govliq: Gould Concept/32 model 32/67 & Kennedy 9-track tape (Jacksonville, FL)
The price itself isn't too bad right now - it's the shipping to Seattle!
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Dave McGuire
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 10:25 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: govliq: Gould Concept/32 model 32/67 & Kennedy 9-track
tape (Jacksonville, FL)
On May 11, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
I would grab it in a heartbeat, but I don't think I could swing it
financially right now.
-Dave
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Port Charlotte, FL
>
<http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=2332173&convertTo=USD>
GOULD
CHASSIS CONCEPT/ 32 SERIAL #285015, . MUTILATION NOT REQUIRED.
I hope someone can pick this up. Gould Series 32 machines are getting
pretty rare. 
1:47 p.m.
New subject: govliq: Gould Concept/32 model 32/67 & Kennedy 9-track tape (Jacksonville, FL)
Ian King wrote:
The price itself isn't too bad right now -
it's the shipping to Seattle!
I don't think that is a problem, if you
really NEED IT what is shipping.
I expect about $500 ground ignoring crating. Now days most people
expect overnight and they don't seem to care +$50 on a $5 item if
sent by mail.
Ben.
1:50 p.m.
New subject: govliq: Gould Concept/32 model 32/67 & Kennedy 9-track tape (Jacksonville, FL)
Yeah. For me it'd be renting a truck.
-Dave
On May 11, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Ian King wrote:
The price itself isn't too bad right now -
it's the shipping to
Seattle!
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Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 10:25 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: govliq: Gould Concept/32 model 32/67 & Kennedy 9-track
tape (Jacksonville, FL)
On May 11, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
I would grab it in a heartbeat, but I don't think I could swing it
financially right now.
-Dave
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Port Charlotte, FL
>
<http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=2332173&convertTo=USD>
GOULD
CHASSIS CONCEPT/ 32 SERIAL #285015, . MUTILATION NOT
REQUIRED.
I hope someone can pick this up. Gould Series 32 machines are
getting
pretty rare. 
2 p.m.
New subject: govliq: Gould Concept/32 model 32/67 & Kennedy 9-track tape (Jacksonville, FL)
Ian King wrote:
The price itself isn't too bad right now -
it's the shipping to Seattle!
Or California, for that matter :P
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3:53 p.m.
On May 11, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Mr Ian Primus wrote:
Or New York <grin>
Dave should go for it. He's closest...
I really can't afford the trip expenses right now.
-Dave
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Port Charlotte, FL
The price itself isn't too bad right now -
it's the shipping to Seattle!
Or California, for that matter :P
2:58 p.m.
New subject: govliq: Gould Concept/32 model 32/67 & Kennedy 9-track tape (Jacksonville, FL)
Ian King wrote:
The price itself isn't too bad right now -
it's the shipping to Seattle!
When you think about it, what was the original
price of the unit with shipping
and the dollar adjusted for inflation.I am tired of * I can get it for a song *
attitude by some. That was many years ago. I don't expect to pay ebay
prices but I do know you need to shop around now days to find any kind
of classic computer that does not have R at RE or L@@K on the listing.
Ben.
Just to leave you Sleepless in Seattle.
PS. My other mailing list is B205 a great movie prop computer.
3:03 p.m.
New subject: to a good home - b205
Just looking at the b205 pages, while a bit stale
a real B205 looks still to be in good shape. See URL for details.
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/B205/ecd.html
Ben.
4:04 p.m.
New subject: to a good home - b205
bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca wrote:
Just looking at the b205 pages, while a bit stale
a real B205 looks still to be in good shape. See URL for details.
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/B205/ecd.html
Ben.
Isn't this the system that went to the Boseman museum?
4:54 p.m.
New subject: to a good home - b205
Al Kossow wrote:
bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca wrote:
Could always email to
find out...
<rant>
From past history ... send to a museum *item is scrapped since is
not authentic enough* .
</rant>
Just looking at the b205 pages, while a bit
stale
a real B205 looks still to be in good shape. See URL for details.
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/B205/ecd.html
Ben.
Isn't this the system that went to the Boseman museum?
5:39 p.m.
New subject: to a good home - b205
bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca wrote:
<rant>
From past history ... send to a museum *item is scrapped since is
not authentic enough* .
</rant>
Is this the month for pointless insults?
http://tjsawyer.com/B205Home.htm has a picture of the American Computer
Museum system.
There are other threads, which I don't feel like digging for further
that I remember linking the B205 previously mentioned to the Boseman
museum.
6:28 p.m.
New subject: to a good home - b205
Al Kossow wrote:
There are other threads, which I don't feel like
digging for further
that I remember linking the B205 previously mentioned to the Boseman
museum.
Well now I know where that went. It is that " *pick up today* or it will
go to the scrappers tomorow " that made me think about my post earlier
today, Ben.
12 May
12 May
2:38 p.m.
New subject: to a good home - b205
Al Kossow wrote:
http://tjsawyer.com/B205Home.htm has a picture of the American Computer
Museum system.
Nice writeup there, interesting to read of the connections to Clifford Berry
and Harry Huskey.
11 May
11 May
5:37 p.m.
In article <FF6AB92D97A23A409701CDBF66F03FCD2E96AD77 at 505fuji>,
Ian King <IanK at vulcan.com> writes:
The price itself isn't too bad right now -
it's the shipping to Seattle!
Try 1600 lbs of Evans & Sutherland image generator in two cabinets, that'll
put a dent in your wallet!
For freight shipping, I look at it this way...
What would it take in your time and expenses to go to where the item
is located, load it on a truck and drive it home? Most of the time,
its cheaper to have a service (even Craters & Freighters which isn't
the cheapest service as they focus on quality of service not price)
handle the details than it is to do it myself. The only time I took
the trip myself was when I had a friend that was willing to help me
load and it was literally a penske truckload of stuff that was coming
back (4 rack SGI reality monster, Challenge XL, Onyx XL, deskside
Crimson, box of spaceballs). Even then it only just about broke even
with what it would cost a service, when you consider time off from
work, food, gas, hotels, truck rental, etc.
For all the other monster stuff I've accumulated, its been worth it to
have a service handle the details.
Currently the rates for pickup+packing+freight amount to about
$1-$1.50/lb of freight, depending on distance travelled. I have
pretty much gotten used to having to ship things because there just
isn't anything locally vintage-wise. This ain't Silicon Valley and
there are no big government installations around (LLL, LBL, LANL, INL,
NASA, etc.). The universities here seem pretty good on turning over
their old computer stock fairly quickly, so there aren't a lot of
holdouts laying about in property surplus.
The collectors of arcade games and classic cars face pretty much the
same issues.
Yeah, shipping wouldn't be an issue if I collected C=64s, but where's
the fun in that?
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Been there, done that - I didn't get my VAX 6660 through the US Mail. :-) More than
anything, it amuses me that the shipping of a vintage system or component can be the bulk
of its total purchase price.
I once purchased a Digidata 9-track drive for $20 - it was $100 to build a shipping crate
for it! It arrived all in one piece, and the crate was so nice I put wheels on it and use
it as a rollaround workbench.
Then there was the time I purchased a machine from Guy Sotomayor. He suggested that,
rather than shipping the machine, we meet halfway - in Eugene, Oregon - and handle the
deal. It probably ended up costing me about the same as shipping (driving my Mercedes
450SL at 15 mpg), but it was a lot more fun to meet face-to-face and chat over breakfast.
Besides, I knew that both parties to the 'shipping' would treat the machine with
due care! (Guy had built a really nice shipping crate. Unfortunately, it wouldn't
fit in the trunk of my car. So we had to uncrate the machine in the parking lot....)
You're right, it's rarely worth taking a 'road trip' these days, and the
better shipping companies offer a good deal. However, the recent decline in the market
took a big bite out of my discretionary funds, so my personal purchasing has been somewhat
constrained as of late.
And I agree about the C64s. :-) -- Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 2:38 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: govliq: Gould Concept/32 model 32/67 & Kennedy 9-track
tape (Jacksonville, FL)
In article <FF6AB92D97A23A409701CDBF66F03FCD2E96AD77 at 505fuji>,
Ian King <IanK at vulcan.com> writes:
The price itself isn't too bad right now -
it's the shipping to
Seattle!
Try 1600 lbs of Evans & Sutherland image generator in two cabinets,
that'll
put a dent in your wallet!
For freight shipping, I look at it this way...
What would it take in your time and expenses to go to where the item
is located, load it on a truck and drive it home? Most of the time,
its cheaper to have a service (even Craters & Freighters which isn't
the cheapest service as they focus on quality of service not price)
handle the details than it is to do it myself. The only time I took
the trip myself was when I had a friend that was willing to help me
load and it was literally a penske truckload of stuff that was coming
back (4 rack SGI reality monster, Challenge XL, Onyx XL, deskside
Crimson, box of spaceballs). Even then it only just about broke even
with what it would cost a service, when you consider time off from
work, food, gas, hotels, truck rental, etc.
For all the other monster stuff I've accumulated, its been worth it to
have a service handle the details.
Currently the rates for pickup+packing+freight amount to about
$1-$1.50/lb of freight, depending on distance travelled. I have
pretty much gotten used to having to ship things because there just
isn't anything locally vintage-wise. This ain't Silicon Valley and
there are no big government installations around (LLL, LBL, LANL, INL,
NASA, etc.). The universities here seem pretty good on turning over
their old computer stock fairly quickly, so there aren't a lot of
holdouts laying about in property surplus.
The collectors of arcade games and classic cars face pretty much the
same issues.
Yeah, shipping wouldn't be an issue if I collected C=64s, but where's
the fun in that?
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10:53 p.m.
In article <FF6AB92D97A23A409701CDBF66F03FCD2E96AD7C at 505fuji>,
Ian King <IanK at vulcan.com> writes:
You're right, it's rarely worth taking a
'road trip' these days,
and the better shipping companies offer a good deal.
I take the road trip when its a drive I feel like making.
I drove to Carson City, NV to get my PDP-11/03 with dual RL01s and LA-120.
It involved a UHaul trailer rental and trailer hitch installation
on my car. It was interesting getting the stuff out of the storage
location and into the trailer. I had underestimated the weight of
the 11/03's cabinet and the disk drives. I think there's a 75 lb.
counterbalancing weight in the base of that thing!
I've also driven down to Tucson, AZ twice (about 12 hr. drive) to get
SGI gear from a member of this list.
I've also driven to Boise, ID for an HP2648A graphics terminal (about 5
hr. drive). That was an interesting return drive because it was dark
as I hit the little mountain range between Idaho and Utah and given
the time of year, there was one last winter storm in the making.
There were some seriously challenging driving conditions on the road
through through those hills -- fortunately I didn't have any sort of
trailer or van to deal with, but it was pretty hairy in a few spots.
And I agree about the C64s. :-) -- Ian=20
Not to knock C=64s at all, they are nice little 6502 graphics and
sound machines. But they are definately a commodity item made in the
millions of units, not something like a Gould.
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12 May
12:35 a.m.
Not to knock C=64s at all, they are nice little 6502
graphics and
sound machines. But they are definately a commodity item made in the
millions of units, not something like a Gould.
Even as a Commodore aficionado, I'd agree. I have them coming out my ears
these days. One day C64s will be rare as hen's teeth, but I'll probably be
dead by then.
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6:38 a.m.
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 20:53 -0600, Richard wrote:
In article
<FF6AB92D97A23A409701CDBF66F03FCD2E96AD7C at 505fuji>,
Ian King <IanK at vulcan.com> writes:
I went through a phase of buying stuff off eBay that ended on either a
Friday or Saturday, cost about a month's "toy budget" less the cost of
petrol to pick it up (within about 300 miles round-trip) and was
somewhere that had good fun roads ;-)
A nice blat around the countryside, a pub lunch, and a new toy to play
with when I get home. What could be better?
Gordon
You're right, it's rarely worth taking a
'road trip' these days,
and the better shipping companies offer a good deal.
I take the road trip when its a drive I feel like making. 
12:24 p.m.
A nice blat around the countryside, a pub lunch, and a
new toy to play
with when I get home. ?What could be better?
I am on my Western roadtrip right now, in the thriving metropolis of
Valentine, NE, and on this roadtrip I managed to see BOTH Carhenge AND
the world's largest Ball of Twine.
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