29 Apr
2008
29 Apr
'08
6:08 p.m.
Robert Jarratt wrote:
I would be interested in any 50-pin SCSI disks,
especially any that
are 1.09
GB or less (can't remember the exact figure for sure but thereabouts)
Would this be for a VAXstation 3100 or early MicroVAX 3100? If so
the magic figure is 1.073GB. I've used 50-68&80 adapters on VAXes
with no problem.
and
any larger 50-pin SCSI disk that are no more than one inch in height.
VAXstation 4000 VLC? The adapters I used only just fit in there - room
is indeed very tight!
Antonio
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7:32 p.m.
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Antonio Carlini <arcarlini at iee.org> wrote:
Would this be for a VAXstation 3100 or early MicroVAX 3100? If so
the magic figure is 1.073GB. I've used 50-68&80 adapters on VAXes
with no problem.
Anyone know the details on the magic figure of 1.073GB for a MicroVAX
3100? Does that work out to being a certain logical block threshold
above which something breaks? Or does that just happen to be the size
of a ST31230N RZ26 maybe? I recently acquired a 3100-20 and was
wondering what drives is it compatible with.
8:37 p.m.
On Tuesday 29 April 2008, Glen Slick wrote:
Yes, it's 2^21, 512 byte blocks. In the older SCSI command set that the
firmware on those uses, I think that the maximum block count is 2^21 -
1. Going over that may cause the firmware to overwrite the wrong part
of the disk when it tries to do a crash dump. Also, booting with a
bigger disk may not work.
Pat
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On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Antonio Carlini
<arcarlini at iee.org>
wrote:
Would this be
for a VAXstation 3100 or early MicroVAX 3100? If so
the magic figure is 1.073GB. I've used 50-68&80 adapters on VAXes
with no problem.
Anyone know the details on the magic figure of 1.073GB for a MicroVAX
3100? Does that work out to being a certain logical block threshold
above which something breaks?
10:13 p.m.
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Patrick Finnegan
<pat at computer-refuge.org> wrote:
Oh, SCSI READ6 (08h) (21-bit LBA) vs. SCSI READ10 (28h) (32-bit LBA).
That makes sense now. Thanks.
Anyone know
the details on the magic figure of 1.073GB for a MicroVAX
3100? Does that work out to being a certain logical block threshold
above which something breaks?
Yes, it's 2^21, 512 byte blocks. In the older SCSI command set that the
firmware on those uses, I think that the maximum block count is 2^21 -
1. Going over that may cause the firmware to overwrite the wrong part
of the disk when it tries to do a crash dump. Also, booting with a
bigger disk may not work.
10:20 p.m.
New subject: ADM3's free near SF, CA
I saw this in Craigslist:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/sys/659842864.html
I'd grab them myself but I'm flat out of space.
Bob
10:31 p.m.
New subject: ADM3's free near SF, CA
On 4/29/08, Bob Rosenbloom <bobalan at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I saw this in Craigslist:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/sys/659842864.html
I'd grab them myself but I'm flat out of space.
Bob
I was REALLY REALLY REALLY excited but you apparently have to take
them all... anybody in here want 6 terminals? I'd take one, but
definitely can't handle them all. Anybody? I'm in Livermore, CA
John
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11:18 p.m.
New subject: ADM3's free near SF, CA
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Bob Rosenbloom <bobalan at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I saw this in Craigslist:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/sys/659842864.html
I'd grab them myself but I'm flat out of space.
Bob
I'm always in the wrong city for free stuff!
11:30 p.m.
New subject: ADM3's free near SF, CA
I'd be willing to take 1 working one, if possible. I'm in San Jose, CA.
Mark
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Bob Rosenbloom
<bobalan at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
I saw this in Craigslist:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/sys/659842864.html
I'd grab them myself but I'm flat out of space.
Bob
I'm always in the wrong city for free stuff!
11:37 p.m.
New subject: ADM3's free near SF, CA
On 4/29/08, Mark Davidson <mdavidson1963 at gmail.com> wrote:
I'd be willing to take 1 working one, if possible.
I'm in San Jose, CA.
Mark
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
Well, if I go fetch them, I'm going to keep one working unit for
myself, and a gentleman has just emailed me off-list speaking for 2
blue terminals if I can ship them...
Can you, Mark, or anyone else possibly hold on to the remaining 4 if I
was to go pick them up and bring them down to you? That would give you
your choice of those that were left, and any other members in the area
could come get one of the others. I am leaving town in about a week
and a half, so I really really really can't have 5 or 7 terminals on
my hands when I have to leave, but one should be manageable.
John
--
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On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Bob Rosenbloom
<bobalan at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
I saw this in Craigslist:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/sys/659842864.html
I'd grab them myself but I'm flat out of space.
Bob
I'm always in the wrong city for free stuff!
11:48 p.m.
New subject: ADM3's free near SF, CA
I responded to the ad as I can fetch them and hold any that aren't
claimed. I'll let folks know if I hear from the person who has them
and we can then make plans for distribution.
TTFN - Guy
On Apr 29, 2008, at 8:37 PM, John Floren wrote:
On 4/29/08, Mark Davidson <mdavidson1963 at
gmail.com> wrote:
I'd be willing to take 1 working one, if
possible. I'm in San
Jose, CA.
Mark
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
Well, if I go fetch them, I'm going to keep one working unit for
myself, and a gentleman has just emailed me off-list speaking for 2
blue terminals if I can ship them...
Can you, Mark, or anyone else possibly hold on to the remaining 4 if I
was to go pick them up and bring them down to you? That would give you
your choice of those that were left, and any other members in the area
could come get one of the others. I am leaving town in about a week
and a half, so I really really really can't have 5 or 7 terminals on
my hands when I have to leave, but one should be manageable.
John
--
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On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Bob Rosenbloom
<bobalan at sbcglobal.net
wrote:
I saw this in Craigslist:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/sys/659842864.html
I'd grab them myself but I'm flat out of space.
Bob
I'm always in the wrong city for free stuff!
11:49 p.m.
New subject: ADM3's free near SF, CA
I emailed the person who posted the Craigslist ad offering to take the
terminals as well.
I'm also only interested in one or two but I was/am willing to grab the lot
and distribute as needed.
Funny he used the pic from my site. . . :)
Erik Klein
www.vintage-computer.com
www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum - The Vintage Computer Forums
marketplace.vintage-computer.com - The Vintage Computer and Gaming
Marketplace
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From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of John Floren
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:38 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: ADM3's free near SF, CA
On 4/29/08, Mark Davidson <mdavidson1963 at gmail.com> wrote:
I'd be willing to take 1 working one, if possible.
I'm in San Jose, CA.
Mark
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
Well, if I go fetch them, I'm going to keep one working unit for
myself, and a gentleman has just emailed me off-list speaking for 2
blue terminals if I can ship them...
Can you, Mark, or anyone else possibly hold on to the remaining 4 if I
was to go pick them up and bring them down to you? That would give you
your choice of those that were left, and any other members in the area
could come get one of the others. I am leaving town in about a week
and a half, so I really really really can't have 5 or 7 terminals on
my hands when I have to leave, but one should be manageable.
John
--
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On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Bob Rosenbloom
<bobalan at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
I saw this in Craigslist:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/sys/659842864.html
I'd grab them myself but I'm flat out of space.
Bob
I'm always in the wrong city for free stuff!
11:54 p.m.
New subject: ADM3's free near SF, CA
Guy---
Thank you! Let me know...
Mark
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Guy Sotomayor <ggs at shiresoft.com> wrote:
I responded to the ad as I can fetch them and hold any
that aren't
claimed. I'll let folks know if I hear from the person who has them and we
can then make plans for distribution.
TTFN - Guy
On Apr 29, 2008, at 8:37 PM, John Floren wrote:
On 4/29/08, Mark Davidson <mdavidson1963 at gmail.com> wrote:
I'd be willing to take 1 working one, if
possible. I'm in San Jose,
CA.
Mark
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Bob Rosenbloom <
Well, if I go fetch them, I'm going to keep one working unit for
myself, and a gentleman has just emailed me off-list speaking for 2
blue terminals if I can ship them...
Can you, Mark, or anyone else possibly hold on to the remaining 4 if I
was to go pick them up and bring them down to you? That would give you
your choice of those that were left, and any other members in the area
could come get one of the others. I am leaving town in about a week
and a half, so I really really really can't have 5 or 7 terminals on
my hands when I have to leave, but one should be manageable.
John
--
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
bobalan at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> I saw this in Craigslist:
>
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/sys/659842864.html
>
> I'd grab them myself but I'm flat out of space.
>
> Bob
>
I'm always in the wrong city for free stuff!
30 Apr
30 Apr
2:12 a.m.
New subject: ADM3's free near SF, CA
On 4/29/08, Erik Klein <classiccmp at vintage-computer.com> wrote:
I emailed the person who posted the Craigslist ad
offering to take the
terminals as well.
I'm also only interested in one or two but I was/am willing to grab the lot
and distribute as needed.
Funny he used the pic from my site. . . :)
Erik Klein
I just got a response from the guy, he said mine was the only response
with Klingon (actually Cthulu-cult chants) in the email so he replied
:) He wanted to know if I would be willing to give one or two to "a
classic computer museum guy", who I assume is Erik. I just replied
telling him yes.
Anyway, it looks like we have two people willing to store them... I
can pick them up but cannot store them. If possible, I'd like to get
*one* working unit for myself.
John
--
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2:22 a.m.
New subject: ADM3's free near SF, CA
If Guy doesn't have room (which I would find hard to believe... I've seen
his warehouse *grin*), I can put some if my garage for a short amount of
time.
Mark
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:12 PM, John Floren <slawmaster at gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/29/08, Erik Klein <classiccmp at
vintage-computer.com> wrote:
I emailed the person who posted the Craigslist ad
offering to take the
terminals as well.
I'm also only interested in one or two but I was/am willing to grab the
lot
and distribute as needed.
Funny he used the pic from my site. . . :)
Erik Klein
I just got a response from the guy, he said mine was the only response
with Klingon (actually Cthulu-cult chants) in the email so he replied
:) He wanted to know if I would be willing to give one or two to "a
classic computer museum guy", who I assume is Erik. I just replied
telling him yes.
Anyway, it looks like we have two people willing to store them... I
can pick them up but cannot store them. If possible, I'd like to get
*one* working unit for myself.
John
--
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3:33 a.m.
New subject: ADM3's free near SF, CA
Yes, I can store them. I'd like one. :-)
On Apr 29, 2008, at 11:22 PM, Mark Davidson wrote:
If Guy doesn't have room (which I would find hard
to believe... I've
seen
his warehouse *grin*), I can put some if my garage for a short
amount of
time.
Mark
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:12 PM, John Floren <slawmaster at gmail.com>
wrote:
On 4/29/08, Erik Klein <classiccmp at
vintage-computer.com> wrote:
I emailed the person who posted the Craigslist ad
offering to take
the
terminals as well.
I'm also only interested in one or two but I was/am willing to
grab the
lot
and distribute as needed.
Funny he used the pic from my site. . . :)
Erik Klein
I just got a response from the guy, he said mine was the only
response
with Klingon (actually Cthulu-cult chants) in the email so he replied
:) He wanted to know if I would be willing to give one or two to "a
classic computer museum guy", who I assume is Erik. I just replied
telling him yes.
Anyway, it looks like we have two people willing to store them... I
can pick them up but cannot store them. If possible, I'd like to get
*one* working unit for myself.
John
--
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8:36 a.m.
New subject: ADM3's free near SF, CA
So, long thread here. Are they all spoken for? I realize I'm coming in at the end of
but would speak for a unit if they are not all taken...
I could pick up from where ever any time between 2-12 May
Steve Shumaker
Boulder Creek
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "John Floren" <slawmaster at gmail.com>
On 4/29/08, Mark Davidson <mdavidson1963 at gmail.com> wrote:
I'd be willing to take 1 working one, if
possible. I'm in San Jose, CA.
Mark
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
Well, if I go fetch them, I'm going to keep one working unit for
myself, and a gentleman has just emailed me off-list speaking for 2
blue terminals if I can ship them...
Can you, Mark, or anyone else possibly hold on to the remaining 4 if I
was to go pick them up and bring them down to you? That would give you
your choice of those that were left, and any other members in the area
could come get one of the others. I am leaving town in about a week
and a half, so I really really really can't have 5 or 7 terminals on
my hands when I have to leave, but one should be manageable.
John
--
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Bob Rosenbloom
<bobalan at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
I saw this in Craigslist:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/sys/659842864.html
I'd grab them myself but I'm flat out of space.
Bob
I'm always in the wrong city for free stuff!
9:08 a.m.
New subject: ADM3's free near SF, CA
Hey! I'll even fork over some gas money, breakfast and shipping to get one to me in
Reno!!
rdawson16 AT hotmail dot com
From: ggs at shiresoft.com
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:33:04 -0700
Subject: Re: ADM3's free near SF, CA
Yes, I can store them. I'd like one. :-)
On Apr 29, 2008, at 11:22 PM, Mark Davidson wrote:
_________________________________________________________________
Spell a grand slam in this game where word skill meets World Series. Get in the game.
http://club.live.com/word_slugger.aspx?icid=word_slugger_wlhm_admod_april08
If Guy doesn't have room (which I would find
hard to believe... I've
seen
his warehouse *grin*), I can put some if my garage for a short
amount of
time.
Mark
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:12 PM, John Floren <slawmaster at gmail.com>
wrote:
On 4/29/08, Erik Klein <classiccmp at
vintage-computer.com> wrote:
I emailed the person who posted the Craigslist ad
offering to take
the
terminals as well.
I'm also only interested in one or two but I was/am willing to
grab the
lot
and distribute as needed.
Funny he used the pic from my site. . . :)
Erik Klein
I just got a response from the guy, he said mine was the only
response
with Klingon (actually Cthulu-cult chants) in the email so he replied
:) He wanted to know if I would be willing to give one or two to "a
classic computer museum guy", who I assume is Erik. I just replied
telling him yes.
Anyway, it looks like we have two people willing to store them... I
can pick them up but cannot store them. If possible, I'd like to get
*one* working unit for myself.
John
--
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12:26 p.m.
New subject: ADM3's free near SF, CA
Sounds like we have homes for just about all the terminals. Has it been
determined who is picking up the units and who is holding them? I know
several people have volunteered for both.
Mark
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Randy Dawson <rdawson16 at hotmail.com> wrote:
Hey! I'll even fork over some gas money, breakfast and shipping to get
one to me in Reno!!
rdawson16 AT hotmail dot com
From: ggs at shiresoft.com
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:33:04 -0700
Subject: Re: ADM3's free near SF, CA
Yes, I can store them. I'd like one. :-)
On Apr 29, 2008, at 11:22 PM, Mark Davidson wrote:
_________________________________________________________________
Spell a grand slam in this game where word skill meets World Series. Get
in the game.
http://club.live.com/word_slugger.aspx?icid=word_slugger_wlhm_admod_april08 If Guy doesn't have room (which I would find
hard to believe... I've
seen
his warehouse *grin*), I can put some if my garage for a short
amount of
time.
Mark
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:12 PM, John Floren <slawmaster at gmail.com>
wrote:
On 4/29/08, Erik Klein <classiccmp at
vintage-computer.com> wrote:
> I emailed the person who posted the Craigslist ad offering to take
> the
> terminals as well.
>
> I'm also only interested in one or two but I was/am willing to
> grab the
lot
> and distribute as needed.
>
> Funny he used the pic from my site. . . :)
>
>
> Erik Klein
I just got a response from the guy, he said mine was the only
response
with Klingon (actually Cthulu-cult chants) in the email so he replied
:) He wanted to know if I would be willing to give one or two to "a
classic computer museum guy", who I assume is Erik. I just replied
telling him yes.
Anyway, it looks like we have two people willing to store them... I
can pick them up but cannot store them. If possible, I'd like to get
*one* working unit for myself.
John
--
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12:33 p.m.
New subject: ADM3's free near SF, CA
John Floren wrote:
I was REALLY REALLY REALLY excited but you apparently
have to take
them all... anybody in here want 6 terminals? I'd take one, but
definitely can't handle them all. Anybody? I'm in Livermore, CA
John
Why does not anybody want to bother with shipping?
Free to pick up sounds like you are buying junk,
To me spending $50 to $100 for shipping does not sound bad.
1:49 p.m.
New subject: ADM3's free near SF, CA
In article <48189F6D.7050307 at jetnet.ab.ca>,
woodelf <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> writes:
John Floren wrote:
I don't know if they are junk, but the original craigslist post did
seem to indicate that some, if not many of them, are non-functional.
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I was REALLY REALLY REALLY excited but you
apparently have to take
them all... anybody in here want 6 terminals? I'd take one, but
definitely can't handle them all. Anybody? I'm in Livermore, CA
John
Why does not anybody want to bother with shipping?
Free to pick up sounds like you are buying junk, 
4:11 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On
Behalf Of Antonio Carlini
Sent: 29 April 2008 23:08
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: Free to a good home (UK) - bits!
Robert Jarratt wrote:
Right both times!
I would be interested in any 50-pin SCSI disks,
especially any that
are 1.09
GB or less (can't remember the exact figure for sure but thereabouts)
Would this be for a VAXstation 3100 or early MicroVAX 3100? If so
the magic figure is 1.073GB. I've used 50-68&80 adapters on VAXes
with no problem.
and
any larger 50-pin SCSI disk that are no more than one inch in height.
VAXstation 4000 VLC? The adapters I used only just fit in there - room
is indeed very tight!
Antonio
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-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On
Behalf Of Antonio Carlini
Sent: 29 April 2008 23:08
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: Free to a good home (UK) - bits!
Robert Jarratt wrote:
I would be interested in getting some larger 68 or 80 pin disks in my VLCs
but I have had two PSUs fail on me recently and I wonder if it isn't because
I have overloaded them with the disks I have put in, so whether they could
cope with these disks is a bit unclear. I know the VLC PSUs are supposed to
be quite weedy and I don't have the skill to fix them myself. They just keep
clicking the power on and off about once a second.
I have not sent the adapters you mention, what should I be searching for?
Rob
I would be interested in any 50-pin SCSI disks,
especially any that
are 1.09
GB or less (can't remember the exact figure for sure but thereabouts)
Would this be for a VAXstation 3100 or early MicroVAX 3100? If so
the magic figure is 1.073GB. I've used 50-68&80 adapters on VAXes
with no problem.
and
any larger 50-pin SCSI disk that are no more than one inch in height.
VAXstation 4000 VLC? The adapters I used only just fit in there - room
is indeed very tight!
Antonio
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