7 Feb
2011
7 Feb
'11
9:59 a.m.
Pontus writes:
On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 09:43:42PM -0800, Roger Ivie
wrote:
Wouldn't it be better for CHM to concentrate on the truly innovative
boxes that re-invented computation as we know it or defined the
industry for extended periods, rather than the oddball historical
footnotes?
I mean as a DEC fan I understand the sweetness of a VS8000 as the
odd man out (a personal workstation with BI!), but it hardly seems
important in painting the broad strokes of the industry.
Heck, BI in itself is nothing more than an oddball historical footnote
looking backwards, I mean, there was very little third-party stuff
Made for BI (present company excepted). You wouldn't know it by the front page of the
Digital Review at the time! Oh Charlie Matco loved the leaks.
Tim.
Nice little boxes.
Does CHM have one?
7 Feb
7 Feb
11:48 a.m.
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Shoppa, Tim <tshoppa at wmata.com> wrote:
I mean as a DEC fan I understand the sweetness of a
VS8000 as the
odd man out (a personal workstation with BI!), but it hardly seems
important in painting the broad strokes of the industry.
No argument from me.
Heck, BI in itself is nothing more than an oddball
historical footnote
looking backwards, I mean, there was very little third-party stuff
Made for BI (present company excepted).
Having been through the process of developing a 3rd-party BI product
(COMBOARD-BI), I am not shocked that few vendors felt the commercial
need to jump through all the hoops. In our case, we migrated our
products to the BI bus because our customers were upgrading their
hardware. In the end, I'm not sure we never recouped our investment
(hardware was only a portion of the total system cost), but we did get
the product to market and we did sell a few. We still sold several
times as many boards for Qbus machines as for BI machines,
unsurprising given the ratio of the two types of machines out in the
real world.
You wouldn't know it by the front page of the
Digital Review at the time! Oh Charlie Matco loved the leaks.
There certainly was a lot of noise in the trade rags - the last roar
of a dying species, no doubt
-ethan
2:01 p.m.
In article <B136EDE3DF5EC441B6F08E0A7AB872450BAF0B5669 at EX2K7-CMS-1.wmata.local>,
"Shoppa, Tim" <tshoppa at wmata.com> writes:
Pontus writes:
Yes. I think this is what they do. If they were given a VS8000, it
wouldn't be discarded, but they wouldn't spend time creating an
exhibit around it either. It would go into the catalog and be
available if anyone wants to study it, but probably noone would.
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On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 09:43:42PM -0800, Roger
Ivie wrote:
Wouldn't it be better for CHM to concentrate on the truly innovative
boxes that re-invented computation as we know it or defined the
industry for extended periods, rather than the oddball historical
footnotes? Nice little boxes.
Does CHM have one?
3:22 p.m.
On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Shoppa, Tim wrote:
Heck, BI in itself is nothing more than an oddball
historical footnote
looking backwards, I mean, there was very little third-party stuff
Made for BI (present company excepted).
During development of VAXBI, we were told (by the folks working on it)
that it was A) not going to be VAX-specific (DEC was moving MIPSward at
the time) and B) would be open.
We were a bit startled when it was announced as "VAXBI".
--
roger ivie
rivie at ridgenet.net
8 Feb
8 Feb
2:25 p.m.
Roger Ivie [rivie at ridgenet.net] wrote:
During development of VAXBI, we were told (by the
folks
working on it) that it was A) not going to be VAX-specific
(DEC was moving MIPSward at the time) and B) would be open.
We were a bit startled when it was announced as "VAXBI".
It was never open (in the way that UNIBUS was) but it wasn't VAX-only
as the DECsystem 5800 (iirc) used it too.
Antonio
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