At 08:53 AM 1/22/2006, Scott Stevens wrote: Early Usenet was not without its debates, especially over which set of greybeards would determine which groups were recognized by major hosts and how those groups were named. Google isn't "hoarding" Usenet. They're just one of the very few companies who treat it as valuable. For that matter, given the effort it took for them to find the ancient archives that they did preserve, apparently many other people did not value those old postings (in toto) as a very few of us do today. Most other companies (such as ISPs) no longer value it. You might as well complain about why DEC and Sun and your local university aren't supporting a server and a feed. Gone are the days when you can expect your ISP to provide a news feed and server. But you're still free to set up your own feed and server, no? If you can find someone to peer it to you. Long gone are the days when one person could spend a few hours and read everything that was posted to every group on Usenet that day. More apropo Entourage, it seems like a reasonably nice Mac version of Outlook. It wouldn't surprise me if it was slightly different in obscure header handling. I've grown despondent about the hope of finding a decent replacement for Eudora/Win. The company seems to be going down the tubes in quality and support. I want something that'll handle a gig or two of mailboxes without hiccup. - John

At 09:32 AM 1/24/06 -0500, Roger "Merch" Merchberger wrote: Hell, I'm still using Eudora 3.0. I tried the newer versions but liked the way 3.0 worked better. Joe

John Foust wrote: I'm willing to cut DEC some slack on this one these days :-) HP, on the other hand, have no excuse :-) Antonio -- Antonio carlini arcarlini at iee.org

On 1/24/06 8:22 AM, "John Foust" <jfoust at threedee.com> wrote: It is quite nice, my mailboxes only total up to 900MB, but it handles them without a hitch.

Jerome Fine replies: I have attempted to save all posts to alt.sys.pdp11 and vmsnet.pdp-11 for at least the last 5 years. At one point, I considered comp.os.vms, but there are just TOO many. But the difference between a proper usenet access and google is so incredible (easy for usenet and terrible with google) that I just don't have the time to follow using google. My local university (University of Toronto) does that with a nunber of text-ONLY groups which don't have too many posts. Included are alt.sys.pdp11 and vmsnet.pdp-11. For that I am VERY pleased. However, since UofT is READ ONLY, and I have not, as yet, subscribed to a paying service after my local ISP dropped usenet, I am still unable to post. Can anyone recommend a completely free service that allows up to about 10 posts a month? I don't need them for reading at the moment, just for posting! If it matters, at the moment I use Netscape 7.2 as my browser under Windows 98 SE. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.