That answer is still less offensive than "during!" ------Original Message------ From: Eric Smith Sender: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org To: General Discussion On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts ReplyTo: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Steve Jobs Sent: 6 Oct 2011 06:29 Fred Cisin wrote: Apple has not (yet) announced any iPhone 5. Assuming that they announce an iPhone 5 at some point in the future, the answer to your question is "before".