3 Mar
2007
3 Mar
'07
8:10 p.m.
http://tinyurl.com/yrqnn4
Appears to be in very nice condition. And they are quite rare. Maybe even
worth the current price.
Jay West
4 Mar
4 Mar
1:23 a.m.
On Sat, 3 Mar 2007, Jay West wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/yrqnn4
Appears to be in very nice condition. And they are quite rare. Maybe even
worth the current price.
It seems to me that the power jack is of a sort commonly used at least in
the 1980s for audio equipment. I'm positive one could find a matching
cord in the Jameco catalog.
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8:44 a.m.
On 4 Mar 2007 at 1:23, David Griffith wrote:
It seems to me that the power jack is of a sort
commonly used at least in
the 1980s for audio equipment. I'm positive one could find a matching
cord in the Jameco catalog.
Also used in the 60's-70's for a lot of business equipment and some
terminals. I recall that Four Phase terminals used one on the
monitor.
Cheers,
Chuck
9:05 a.m.
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Subject: Re: compucolor II on ebay
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 08:44:03 -0800
On 4 Mar 2007 at 1:23, David Griffith wrote:
Hi
I've not seen these at Jameco. Does anyone have a Jameco part
number?
Dwight
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It seems to me that the power jack is of a sort
commonly used at least
in
the 1980s for audio equipment. I'm positive
one could find a matching
cord in the Jameco catalog.
Also used in the 60's-70's for a lot of business equipment and some
terminals. I recall that Four Phase terminals used one on the
monitor.
Cheers,
Chuck
10:22 a.m.
On 4 Mar 2007 at 9:05, dwight elvey wrote:
Hi
I've not seen these at Jameco. Does anyone have a Jameco part
number?
Dwight
No, they're not in Jameco. The item you need is Belden/Volex P/N
17952--it can be had from several sources. You can probably order
one from Mouser.
Cheers,
Chuck
10:56 a.m.
On 4 Mar 2007 at 10:22, Chuck Guzis wrote:
No, they're not in Jameco. The item you need is
Belden/Volex P/N
17952--it can be had from several sources. You can probably order
one from Mouser.
Whoops...
While the 17952 would probably work, the polarization is reverse of
normal. The "standard" cord is P/N 17280. (I gotta read the fine
print!).
Mouser has it:
http://www.mouser.com/search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=17280_8_B1virtualkey
68600000virtualkey686-17280
Cheers,
Chuck
10:45 a.m.
--- Jay West <jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/yrqnn4
Appears to be in very nice condition. And they are
quite rare. Maybe even
worth the current price.
Jay West
Ok, here's probably the zaniest question of the week.
How many computers/terminals/or-what-have-you used
happy colorful keytops? I really expect you all to
work hard at a comprehensive list this time, or I'll
get so mad I just might quit the list! LOL LOL LOL
don't count on it!!
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Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Ok, here's probably the zaniest question of the week.
How many computers/terminals/or-what-have-you used
happy colorful keytops? I really expect you all to
work hard at a comprehensive list this time, or I'll
get so mad I just might quit the list! LOL LOL LOL
don't count on it!!
Hmmm, I can only think of one. I'm not sure whether it was the BBC or the Archemedes,
but i'm sure one of them had orange function keys (F1 to F12?).
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
3 Mar
3 Mar
7:26 p.m.
Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Ok, here's probably the zaniest question of the week.
How many computers/terminals/or-what-have-you used
happy colorful keytops? I really expect you all to
work hard at a comprehensive list this time, or I'll
get so mad I just might quit the list! LOL LOL LOL
don't count on it!!
Hmmm, I can only think of one. I'm not sure whether it was the BBC or
the Archemedes, but i'm sure one of them had orange function keys (F1 to
F12?).
The BBC micro has 10 red function keys, as did some Archimedes machines.
IIRC ,the A3020, bein designed for schools (where the Beeb was common)
had the same red keys, the A3010, a home machines (with the same main
PCB, just with different options fitted) had bright green function keys.
What about the HH Tiger? It has coloured functions keys f0-f7. I can't
remembner the order, but f0 is black, f7 is white, f1, f2 abnd f4 are red
green and blue in some order, and the others are, of course, magenta,
cyan and yellow. The reason was, of course, it used 3 bits for colour,
and the encoding was the obvious one.
IIRC, the VT52 seires of terminals have a red, grey and blue key with no
other markings.
-tony
4 Mar
4 Mar
3:09 p.m.
On 4/3/07 03:26, "Tony Duell" <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
The BBC micro has 10 red function keys, as did some
Archimedes machines.
IIRC ,the A3020, bein designed for schools (where the Beeb was common)
had the same red keys, the A3010, a home machines (with the same main
PCB, just with different options fitted) had bright green function keys.
Also the Amstrad CPC464, 472 and 664, Enterprise 64 and 128, Tatung
Einstein, most Amigas (I can only see an A4000 from here), the original
Memotech MTX had bright blue function keys but they were dropped from the
production run, the Exidy Sorceror has darker cursors etc and I remember
using a keyboard on the ACT Sirius 1 at college that had a load of bright
coloured keys on it but I can't remember if it was an ACT product or not.
5 Mar
5 Mar
3:26 p.m.
Adrian Graham wrote:
production run, the Exidy Sorceror has darker cursors
etc and I remember
using a keyboard on the ACT Sirius 1 at college that had a load of bright
coloured keys on it but I can't remember if it was an ACT product or not.
Probably not. I have an INMOS-modified Sirius that
has those coloured keys. It was one of the original
hosts for the Transputer Development System. Legend
had it at INMOS that if you had a bright, hot desklamp,
it would melt the wax that was used to fill in the
labelling on the special keys.
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4 Mar
4 Mar
2:37 p.m.
On 4 Mar 2007, at 21:41, Andrew Burton wrote:
Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Ok, here's probably the zaniest question of the week.
How many computers/terminals/or-what-have-you used
happy colorful keytops? I really expect you all to
work hard at a comprehensive list this time, or I'll
get so mad I just might quit the list! LOL LOL LOL
don't count on it!!
Hmmm, I can only think of one. I'm not sure whether it was the BBC or
the Archemedes, but i'm sure one of them had orange function keys (F1
to F12?).
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
The Archamedes 3010 and 3020 had either green or red keys but i cant
remember which was which. The HH Tiger has multicoured function keys
and i also remember there were keyboards for ADB Apple Macs with
coloured keys for specific applications... photoshop etc
3:32 p.m.
> Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Ok, here's probably the zaniest question of the week.
> How many computers/terminals/or-what-have-you used
> happy colorful keytops? I really expect you all to
> work hard at a comprehensive list this time, or I'll
> get so mad I just might quit the list! LOL LOL LOL
> don't count on it!!
The PC system I'm sitting in front of now--it has a bright orange
"Panic" keytop.
Oh--the Beehive SuperBee. Some brown keys, others were sort of
beige. And many many POS terminals.
Cheers,
Chuck
4:11 p.m.
On 3/4/07, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
> > Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
> >
> > Ok, here's probably the zaniest question of the week.
> > How many computers/terminals/or-what-have-you used
> > happy colorful keytops? I really expect you all to
> > work hard at a comprehensive list this time, or I'll
> > get so mad I just might quit the list! LOL LOL LOL
> > don't count on it!!
The Amstrad CPC 464 I had as a kid had a lot of funky-coloured keys.
ESC and the "Record" key on the built-in tape drive were red.
TAB, CAPS LOCK, DEL, COPY, both SHIFTS, and CTRL were green.
Both ENTERs were blue.
Ed.
11:56 p.m.
On 5/3/07 00:22, "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
On 5 Mar 2007 at 0:11, listmailgoeshere at gmail.com
wrote:
I'm not familiar with that one, but you made me think of later Newbury Labs
terminals (orange function keys) so I dug out my pictures of the storage
area at Bletchley Park and there's quite a few multi-coloured keycaps in
there:
VT220 (well, OK, the LK201 keyboard :p)
VT78
HP86 (and possibly HP85 too)
Microcolour Graphics ANSI terminals
ICL DRS20 and DRS50
MIMI 802 and 803
Torch Communicator (bright red and blue function keys)
ICL One-per-desk (see also Merlin Tonto)
TRS80 model 2 and 16
Sharp MZ80K and MZ700
Plus some British Telecom terms that are awash with different coloured keys
Is anyone keeping score? :)
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The Amstrad CPC 464 I had as a kid had a lot of
funky-coloured keys.
Didn't the Datapoint terminals also have colored keys?
5 Mar
5 Mar
8:07 a.m.
--- Adrian Graham <witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk>
wrote:
VT220 (well, OK, the LK201 keyboard :p)
VT78
HP86 (and possibly HP85 too)
Microcolour Graphics ANSI terminals
ICL DRS20 and DRS50
MIMI 802 and 803
Torch Communicator (bright red and blue function
keys)
ICL One-per-desk (see also Merlin Tonto)
TRS80 model 2 and 16
Sharp MZ80K and MZ700
Plus some British Telecom terms that are awash with
different coloured keys
Is anyone keeping score? :)
nah. My contribution though:
Canon AS-100
Sanyo MBC-1000
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Adrian Graham wrote:
VT220 (well, OK, the LK201 keyboard :p)
VT78
HP86 (and possibly HP85 too)
Microcolour Graphics ANSI terminals
ICL DRS20 and DRS50
MIMI 802 and 803
Torch Communicator (bright red and blue function keys)
ICL One-per-desk (see also Merlin Tonto)
TRS80 model 2 and 16
Sharp MZ80K and MZ700
Plus some British Telecom terms that are awash with different coloured keys
We've got some Cifer terminals with coloured keys too; I've got a photo of
them but don't have a model number handy right now.
(From someone else's post) I'm pretty sure the Archimedes 3010 was the one
with the green keys; the 3020 used red.
Intertec Superbrains and Enterprise 64/128 systems haven't been mentioned yet
I don't think.
Sinclair ZX80? (OK, so they're all blue :)
What about big iron - various PDP8, PDP11, Marconi TAC etc.? Do console
switches count as "keytops"?
What about early electronic calculators - IME86 etc.? Lots of those used
colours for various key functions. Stretching it a bit to call them computers,
though (at least for the earlier machines - I'm with Tony in that some of HP's
"calculators" were far more like general-purpose computers)
cheers
Jules
3:06 p.m.
What about big iron - various PDP8, PDP11, Marconi TAC
etc.? Do console
switches count as "keytops"?
The Philips P850- has red and green toggles for the 16 bit data entry
register, arranged in blocks of 4 (i.e. each hex digit is all one
colour). The corresonding lamps have red or green filters too (I've not
seen multi-coloured lamps on other frontpanels, but I am sure the P851 is
not unique in this respect).
What about early electronic calculators - IME86 etc.? Lots of those used
colours for various key functions. Stretching it a bit to call them computers,
There's an HP9810 alongside me. It has white-beige keys, grey keys, dark
grey keys, pale yellow keys and orange-yellow keys. Is that a computer?
The internal architecture is much the same as a computer (it's a CPU
connected to ROM and RAM memory), it is user-programmable.
though (at least for the earlier machines - I'm
with Tony in that some of HP's
"calculators" were far more like general-purpose computers)
I fail to see how any reasonable definition of 'computer' would exclude
the HP9830, HP9825, etc.
-tony
2:56 p.m.
The Amstrad CPC 464 I had as a kid had a lot of
funky-coloured keys.
Didn't the Datapoint terminals also have colored keys? 
8:56 a.m.
The DECmate II (PDP-8 in a VT100 case) has colored keys for the word
processing functions.
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9:38 a.m.
On 5 Mar 2007 at 9:56, Richard wrote:
The DECmate II (PDP-8 in a VT100 case) has colored
keys for the word
processing functions.
1970's CDC terminals had blue and red keys, IIRC. It's been a long
time since I've seen one. I don't recall if the original plasma
PLATO terminals did--anyone recall?
029 keypunches had some blue keys as well as gray and charcoal-
colored keys, IIRC. 024/ 026's were just gray and charcoal, no blue.
Cheers,
Chuck
10:06 a.m.
In article <45EBE51D.13058.23656497 at cclist.sydex.com>,
"Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> writes:
1970's CDC terminals had blue and red keys, IIRC.
It's been a long
time since I've seen one. I don't recall if the original plasma
PLATO terminals did--anyone recall?
I think the plasma ones and the raster ones both had colored keys.
They also had special keys for things like "answer", "help" and
so-on.
It was all very custom.
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On 04/03/07, listmailgoeshere at gmail.com <listmailgoeshere at gmail.com> wrote:
The Amstrad CPC 464 I had as a kid had a lot of
funky-coloured keys.
ESC and the "Record" key on the built-in tape drive were red.
TAB, CAPS LOCK, DEL, COPY, both SHIFTS, and CTRL were green.
Both ENTERs were blue.
Ed.
Until, of course, they reached germany, where Schneider decided those
colored keys were entirely too funky and repainted them a nice,
boring, uniform grey.
I seem to recall there having been a bit of a grey market getting
french or british 464 (etc) since they were much cooler looking...
Joe.
5 Mar
5 Mar
8:19 a.m.
--- Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
The PC system I'm sitting in front of now--it has
a
bright orange
"Panic" keytop.
Is this new or old?
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8:35 a.m.
On 5 Mar 2007 at 8:19, Chris M wrote:
Is this new or old?
Depends on your definition. The keyboard's a made-in-Germany Cherry
(probably one of the best brands out there if you can find one). Too
many years ago (maybe 15), one of the office supplies places sent out
a bunch of small boxes with a "Panic" keytop (a nice double-shot one)
inside with some sort of gimmick advertising message. I noted that
the key would fit my Cherry keyboard perfectly, so I replaced the
"SysReq" key with it--heaven knows, they key isn't used for much on
Windoze.
Cheers,
Chuck
8:41 a.m.
--- Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
On 5 Mar 2007 at 8:19, Chris M wrote:
But you could always just steal your wife's nail
polish for tricks like that. Regardless I never knew
you to be a psyk modder...
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Is this new or old?
Depends on your definition. The keyboard's a
made-in-Germany Cherry
(probably one of the best brands out there if you
can find one). Too
many years ago (maybe 15), one of the office
supplies places sent out
a bunch of small boxes with a "Panic" keytop (a nice
double-shot one)
inside with some sort of gimmick advertising
message. I noted that
the key would fit my Cherry keyboard perfectly, so I
replaced the
"SysReq" key with it--heaven knows, they key isn't
used for much on
Windoze.
8:57 a.m.
--- Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
How do you make double-shot keys using nail polish?
No no. You switched cuz it was orange. Tell the truth.
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4 Mar
5:56 p.m.
The Archamedes 3010 and 3020 had either green or red
keys but i cant
remember which was which. The HH Tiger has multicoured function keys
and i also remember there were keyboards for ADB Apple Macs with
coloured keys for specific applications... photoshop etc
My mom does video editing on a G5 using a customized Apple Pro Keyboard
with coloured caps for specific functions as you state above. However,
Apple doesn't sell these; she bought it from a third-party peripherals house.
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3:22 p.m.
On 3/3/07, Jay West <jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/yrqnn4
Appears to be in very nice condition. And they are quite rare. Maybe even
worth the current price.
I'm continually astonished at how rare they are. Show of hands...
How many people on the list have a Compucolor II? (raises hand).
Does it work? (raises other hand)
For comparison, how many people have a Sol-20? (raises third hand).
Back on the subject of the Compucolor, does anyone have a copy of the
disk formatting program they'd be willing to send me? Or even just a
formatted disk if a Catweasel or Copy IIpc option board can replicate
it. The disk drive is worthless without disks.
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