Except when you are talking about Ashton-Tate's DBaseII, where they felt no one would buy it if it were a first version, so they made it sound like a second version. :) Bob Message: 20 Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:19:47 -0500 From: "'Computer Collector Newsletter'" <news at computercollector.com> Subject: Stupid eBay user du jor <snip> ... but geez, the only research this doofus had to do is to read the big letters on the cover of the instruction manual ... Where it says "II" as in "not the first." :) <snip<