18 Jun
2013
18 Jun
'13
2:01 p.m.
...is anyone familiar with these terminals?
I have one hooked up to my linux box, via a null modem cable.
That works fine, but no matter how I set things, I can't get it to
display to display drawing characters properly, no matter how I set
$TERM and how I set the settings on the terminal.
In fact, the only way I can get it to really work (without the drawing
characters) is in vt100 mode. Very strange...
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18 Jun
18 Jun
4:11 p.m.
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:01 PM, John Many Jars
<john at yoyodyne-propulsion.net> wrote:
...is anyone familiar with these terminals?
I have one hooked up to my linux box, via a null modem cable.
That works fine, but no matter how I set things, I can't get it to
display to display drawing characters properly, no matter how I set
$TERM and how I set the settings on the terminal.
In fact, the only way I can get it to really work (without the drawing
characters) is in vt100 mode. Very strange...
may need to set up a termcap for it
I used to play with Wyse-60 terminals on an accounting system and
still have some 60 docs if you need them scanning
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=wyse
Dave Caroline
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transformed into a giant cockroach." Nah, it's too good.
--Max Bialystock
7:09 p.m.
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013, Dave Caroline wrote:
may need to set up a termcap for it
I used to play with Wyse-60 terminals on an accounting system and
still have some 60 docs if you need them scanning
A Wyse-60 and Pick. *sigh*
g.
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19 Jun
19 Jun
1:36 a.m.
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:09 AM, geneb <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013, Dave Caroline wrote:
That would have been terrible but it was a system on its own coded in
C ran on an Altos 1000
and had its own "high level" language that was stored in a table. Lots
of caching and buffering going on
we were a beta site and had source so we could quickly fix bugs.
It where I learned C and databases.
Was called Tabs Image by a small company in Salisbury in England.
Dave Caroline
may need to set up a termcap for it
I used to play with Wyse-60 terminals on an accounting system and
still have some 60 docs if you need them scanning
A Wyse-60 and Pick. *sigh*
g.
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
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A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
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9:54 a.m.
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Dave Caroline wrote:
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:09 AM, geneb <geneb at
deltasoft.com> wrote:
Has anyone created a true-type font
that's a copy of the one used in the
Wyse-55/60?
g.
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013, Dave Caroline wrote:
may need to set up a termcap for it
I used to play with Wyse-60 terminals on an accounting system and
still have some 60 docs if you need them scanning
A Wyse-60 and Pick. *sigh*
11:14 a.m.
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:54 PM, geneb <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Dave Caroline wrote:
I have an assembler terminal that was a "work alike" at the time I
used the DOS chrs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page_437
I added extra escape characters to enable multiple printers off the
back of a PC looking like a Wyse
Dave Caroline
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:09 AM, geneb <geneb
at deltasoft.com> wrote:
Has anyone created a true-type font that's a copy of the one used in the
Wyse-55/60?
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013, Dave Caroline wrote:
may need to set up a termcap for it
I used to play with Wyse-60 terminals on an accounting system and
still have some 60 docs if you need them scanning
A Wyse-60 and Pick. *sigh*
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
11:42 a.m.
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Dave Caroline wrote:
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:54 PM, geneb <geneb at
deltasoft.com> wrote:
I'm not interested in the graphics characters, I just like the letter
shapes. Many fond memories of banging away on a Wyse terminal connected
to a Pick R83 system. :)
g.
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Dave Caroline wrote:
I have an assembler terminal that was a "work alike" at the time I
used the DOS chrs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_page_437
I added extra escape characters to enable multiple printers off the
back of a PC looking like a Wyse On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:09 AM, geneb <geneb
at deltasoft.com> wrote:
Has anyone created a true-type font that's a copy of the one used in the
Wyse-55/60?
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013, Dave Caroline wrote:
> may need to set up a termcap for it
> I used to play with Wyse-60 terminals on an accounting system and
> still have some 60 docs if you need them scanning
>
A Wyse-60 and Pick. *sigh*
2 Jul
2 Jul
10:07 p.m.
New subject: FPUIB: some sent
I sent 8 boxes today, (and paid $100 on top of buying some boxes,
since it turns out that Priority Mail Flat Rate boxes are singularly
inappropriate in size and shape for computer books (how many 7" items can
you fit in 12"?))
I'm going to burn out long before finishing. It's a lot of work, on top
of physical exhaustion from caring for my aging mother.
Once I get caught up with my overdo promises to y'all, I may step back for
a while.
Who wants Comdex directories/show guides/index to exhibitors (address and
phone numbers of thousands of now gone companies)? I've got them from
1982 to 2003, but some of the late 1990s ones are probably missing by now.
Who wants West Coast Computer Faire exhibitor prospectus?
Bound volumes of proceedings from WCCF (1977, 1978, etc.)?
I think that I will want money for:
shrink-wrapped 2 volume (binders in slipcases) IBM Personal Computer
Xenix [2.0]\nSoftware Development System : Application Development Guide &
(C Library Guide and Computer Reference and Macro Assembler Reference)
For those waiting for stuff, I have half a dozen boxes yet to complete,
and I need to go BUY suitable boxes.
But, I got a few out today:
ZIP postage Type Tracking number (uniqe # for every atom?)
12603 $3.43 Media mail 9549 0101 3053 3183 5129 62
(Gift)
98373 $12.35 Priority Flat 9505 5101 3053 3183 5137 00
33431 $5.68 Media 9549 0101 3053 3183 5144 23
94043 $8.28 Media 9549 0101 3053 3183 5151 47
(Gift)
97405 $6.56 Media 9549 0101 3053 3183 5155 74
(Gift)
20902 $12.35 Priority Flat 9505 5101 3053 3183 5161 90
UK $12.75 First Class Customs # LC940490488US
98035 $36.55 Priority 9505 4101 3053 3183 5168 79
(MY mistake, I should have realized that non-flat-rate Priority was a
really stupid way to go. I'll eat that one.)
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3 Jul
3 Jul
2:15 a.m.
New subject: FPUIB: some sent
On 03/07/2013 05:13, Fred Cisin wrote:
Thoughts are with you Fred. Just back from taking Mother-in-Law to eye
Hospital and spent most of the journey back re-explaining many times
that there was very little they could do for her eye sight...
Dave
> I sent 8
boxes today,
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013, Toby Thain wrote:
Good on you Fred, you're a hero.
Except that it should have been about twice that and a week ago.
The rest of my life is making me pretty flaky.
11:08 a.m.
New subject: FPUIB: some sent
On 7/3/2013 12:15 AM, Dave wrote:
On 03/07/2013 05:13, Fred Cisin wrote:
Thoughts are with you Fred. Just back from taking Mother-in-Law to eye
Hospital and spent most of the journey back re-explaining many times
that there was very little they could do for her eye sight...
Dave
I didn't get anything from Fred, but I appreciate you doing what you are
to get the things you have saved to someone else. It isn't always easy
to even find someone who wants stuff, and as you have said it isn't easy
getting it there.
Jim
> I
sent 8 boxes today,
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013, Toby Thain wrote:
Good on you Fred, you're a hero.
Except that it should have been about twice that and a week ago.
The rest of my life is making me pretty flaky.
11:32 a.m.
New subject: FPUIB: some sent
On Jul 3, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Jim Stephens <jws at jwsss.com> wrote:
I didn't get anything from Fred, but I appreciate
you doing what you are to get the things you have saved to someone else. It isn't
always easy to even find someone who wants stuff, and as you have said it isn't easy
getting it there.
Absolutely seconded. Fred, you're sweeping out the Augean Stables here, and
we're just glad that you're not using a river to do it. If anyone is getting
nasty or impatient with you, they need an adjustment.
- Dave
5 Jul
5 Jul
3:43 p.m.
New subject: FPUIB: some sent
On Wed, 3 Jul 2013, David Riley wrote:
Absolutely seconded. Fred, you're sweeping out
the Augean Stables here, and
we're just glad that you're not using a river to do it. If anyone is getting
nasty or impatient with you, they need an adjustment.
The appreciation helps a lot!
Currently, a lot of Sacramento River and delta water is sent to southern
California. I'm lobbying for a route diversion.
Thanks,
--
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5:41 p.m.
New subject: FPUIB: some sent
Hi Fred,
The books arrived today--thanks very much. Let me know if I can ever
return the favor.
All the best,
Chuck
11 Jul
11 Jul
4:18 a.m.
New subject: FPUIB: some sent
A wet postman delivered a package after swimming the Atlantic
Thanks
Dave Caroline
19 Jun
19 Jun
9:50 a.m.
On 18 June 2013 22:11, Dave Caroline <dave.thearchivist at gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:01 PM, John Many Jars
<john at yoyodyne-propulsion.net> wrote:
Could be... hmmm. I think that ncurses comes with a termcap that should work.
I'd love to have the manual, but I don't want to put you to any
trouble. Wow, the folks on here are generous...
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--------
"Gregor Samsa awoke one morning to discover that he had been
transformed into a giant cockroach." Nah, it's too good.
--Max Bialystock
...is anyone familiar with these terminals?
I have one hooked up to my linux box, via a null modem cable.
That works fine, but no matter how I set things, I can't get it to
display to display drawing characters properly, no matter how I set
$TERM and how I set the settings on the terminal.
In fact, the only way I can get it to really work (without the drawing
characters) is in vt100 mode. Very strange...
may need to set up a termcap for it
I used to play with Wyse-60 terminals on an accounting system and
still have some 60 docs if you need them scanning
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=wyse
Dave Caroline
18 Jun
18 Jun
6:47 p.m.
On 06/18/2013 12:01 PM, John Many Jars wrote:
...is anyone familiar with these terminals?
I have one hooked up to my linux box, via a null modem cable.
That works fine, but no matter how I set things, I can't get it to
display to display drawing characters properly, no matter how I set
$TERM and how I set the settings on the terminal.
In fact, the only way I can get it to really work (without the drawing
characters) is in vt100 mode. Very strange...
I wonder if you have to run the thing in (ick!) WY50 mode to get the
graphic characters. There's a WY50 quick reference at:
http://www.vt100.net/wyse/wy-50-qrg/
I know that WY55s were often used as replacements for the WY50.
--Chuck
19 Jun
19 Jun
9:52 a.m.
On 19 June 2013 00:47, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
I wonder if you have to run the thing in (ick!) WY50
mode to get the graphic
characters. There's a WY50 quick reference at:
http://www.vt100.net/wyse/wy-50-qrg/
I know that WY55s were often used as replacements for the WY50.
Yeah, I tried that... putting it in Wyse 50 "Personality" mode, and
setting $TERM to wyse50.
That just results in new and worse garbage. (;
For now, I'm using - | and + as drawing characters...
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transformed into a giant cockroach." Nah, it's too good.
--Max Bialystock
20 Jun
20 Jun
12:19 a.m.
In article <CAEvVyqG=GwJqV-+MgzjVxLyM0s0t5EBKT8diwP9UDHByzvQkwg at mail.gmail.com>,
John Many Jars <john at yoyodyne-propulsion.net> writes:
That works fine, but no matter how I set things, I
can't get it to
display to display drawing characters properly, no matter how I set
$TERM and how I set the settings on the terminal.
Can you get them to display in local mode?
ESC H Ctrl+B enters graphic submode.
See pg. 25
<http://manx.classiccmp.org/mirror/vt100.net/wyse/wy-50-qrg/wy-50-qrg.pdf>
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