1 Jun
2007
1 Jun
'07
10:19 p.m.
I've not installed IRIX from scratch before. I recently purchased
some install media from ebay and the item description said "does not
include licenses". Is this boiler plate disclaimer, or am I still
needing something else to install the OS? Another item on ebay says
it *does* include licenses. Is there some sort of license key?
Does SGI have a hobbyist/deprecated-ware license available?
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1 Jun
1 Jun
11:04 p.m.
Richard wrote:
I've not installed IRIX from scratch before. I
recently purchased
some install media from ebay and the item description said "does not
include licenses". Is this boiler plate disclaimer, or am I still
needing something else to install the OS? Another item on ebay says
it *does* include licenses. Is there some sort of license key?
Does SGI have a hobbyist/deprecated-ware license available?
I believe it "merely" means that it would be illegal to install IRIX on any
hardware if you don't possess a valid licence key for it; I don't think any of
the IRIX OS releases are locked in any way and *need* some sort of key to
function.
I do recall feeding keys into the OS (6.5.3) for certain high-end video
software many years ago though, so certainly some *apps* are crippled without
appropriate licences (how easy it would be to circumvent that, I don't know)
11:36 p.m.
At 05:04 PM 6/1/2007, Jules Richardson wrote:
I do recall feeding keys into the OS (6.5.3) for
certain high-end video software many years ago though, so certainly some *apps* are
crippled without appropriate licences (how easy it would be to circumvent that, I
don't know)
I unloaded a bunch of IRIX-related CDs on eBay a half-dozen years ago.
They sold well. Maybe media was in short supply back then.
Each SGI does have a unique serial number that can be queried
from software, so some third-party packages did
handshake an
installation key. IRIX doesn't do it, as far as I remember.
You might discover that some sold-separately SGI software
might use it, though. By now, I imagine it's well-hacked.
- John
2 Jun
2 Jun
12:03 a.m.
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, John Foust wrote:
At 05:04 PM 6/1/2007, Jules Richardson wrote:
MIPSpro (SGI's compilers) are the only things on the install CDs that use
keys IIRC. One should be just fine installing gcc and friends from
pkgsrc.
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A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
I do recall feeding keys into the OS (6.5.3) for
certain high-end video software many years ago though, so certainly some *apps* are
crippled without appropriate licences (how easy it would be to circumvent that, I
don't know)
I unloaded a bunch of IRIX-related CDs on eBay a half-dozen years ago.
They sold well. Maybe media was in short supply back then.
Each SGI does have a unique serial number that can be queried
from software, so some third-party packages did handshake an
installation key. IRIX doesn't do it, as far as I remember.
You might discover that some sold-separately SGI software
might use it, though. By now, I imagine it's well-hacked. 
1 Jun
1 Jun
11:38 p.m.
On 6/1/07, Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Richard wrote:
Sgi's position on Irix as explained by a sales droid in the Dallas office
was: "Sgi hardware has an implicit license to run the release of Irix
installed on the machine at the time it's support contract expires. The
unspoken position of the company is you can run any version of the software
that you can find media to install if from. We will sell you a copy of the
media for $600 but you must purchase a support contract first. But I can't
sell you a support contract for your Indy as it has been declared obsolete
and EOL. So you are caugfht in a Catch-22. I can't officially tell you to
go to eBay and look for a set of media but that is probably the best source
at this time."
This was in 2001 when I purchased my first Indy.
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I've not installed IRIX from scratch before.
I recently purchased
some install media from ebay and the item description said "does not
include licenses". Is this boiler plate disclaimer, or am I still
needing something else to install the OS? Another item on ebay says
it *does* include licenses. Is there some sort of license key?
Does SGI have a hobbyist/deprecated-ware license available?
I believe it "merely" means that it would be illegal to install IRIX on
any
hardware if you don't possess a valid licence key for it; I don't think
any of
the IRIX OS releases are locked in any way and *need* some sort of key to
function.
I do recall feeding keys into the OS (6.5.3) for certain high-end video
software many years ago though, so certainly some *apps* are crippled
without
appropriate licences (how easy it would be to circumvent that, I don't
know)
2 Jun
2 Jun
12:35 a.m.
In article <46609804.5050509 at yahoo.co.uk>,
Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk> writes:
I do recall feeding keys into the OS (6.5.3) for
certain high-end video
software many years ago though, so certainly some *apps* are crippled without
appropriate licences (how easy it would be to circumvent that, I don't know)
Yeah, I'm familiar with apps being license-locked. FlexLM was a
common licensing scheme for that sort of thing.
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1 Jun
1 Jun
11:07 p.m.
On 6/1/07, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
I've not installed IRIX from scratch before. I
recently purchased
some install media from ebay and the item description said "does not
include licenses". Is this boiler plate disclaimer, or am I still
needing something else to install the OS? Another item on ebay says
it *does* include licenses. Is there some sort of license key?
Does SGI have a hobbyist/deprecated-ware license available?
I'm not aware of any SGI hobbyist program, but I've also not installed
any version of IRIX that asked for a license key, either.
11:23 p.m.
On 6/1/07, Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> wrote:
On 6/1/07, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
There is no hobbyist program but Sgi turns a blind eye to hobbyist's use of
Irix for non-commercial uses. There is no license key needed to install and
the m-stream updates for 6.5 to 6.5.23 are available for download at sgi.com
with a free Supportfolio account.
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I've not installed IRIX from scratch before.
I recently purchased
some install media from ebay and the item description said "does not
include licenses". Is this boiler plate disclaimer, or am I still
needing something else to install the OS? Another item on ebay says
it *does* include licenses. Is there some sort of license key?
Does SGI have a hobbyist/deprecated-ware license available?
I'm not aware of any SGI hobbyist program, but I've also not installed
any version of IRIX that asked for a license key, either.
11:20 p.m.
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Richard wrote:
I've not installed IRIX from scratch before. I
recently purchased
some install media from ebay and the item description said "does not
include licenses". Is this boiler plate disclaimer, or am I still
needing something else to install the OS? Another item on ebay says
it *does* include licenses. Is there some sort of license key?
Does SGI have a hobbyist/deprecated-ware license available?
By having a computer that runs Irix, SGI presumes you have the right to
install and run it. The licenses part comes from the fact that some
components are not included in this deal, though they are present on the
install media. For a barebones Irix system, this is typically the MIPSpro
development suite. The license key is a hash that may or may not be tied
to a particular machine and may or may not expire. The key is served up
by a daemon that handles multiple keys for assorted software you might
have installed. For example: one key for the GIS viewer, one for the
rock layer simulator, one for the seismology package, one for the math
package, one for the database, etc.
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David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
2 Jun
2 Jun
12:36 a.m.
In article <Pine.GSO.4.55.0706011510450.7073 at helios.cs.csubak.edu>,
David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> writes:
[...] For a barebones Irix system, this is typically
the MIPSpro
development suite.
Yes, this bundle did include development software. I guess people
just use gcc these days and ignore the stuff that came from SGI?
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5:15 a.m.
At 5:36 PM -0600 6/1/07, Richard wrote:
Yes, this bundle did include development software. I
guess people
just use gcc these days and ignore the stuff that came from SGI?
I think most people simply run whatever version of MIPSpro tools they
can if at all possible. The SGI compilers are desirable.
Zane
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