4 Jun
2010
4 Jun
'10
1:17 a.m.
I've just taken possession of a small IBM System/370 mainframe, and I
thought I'd share the joy. This system has been sitting in North
Carolina waiting for me for about six months; I've only now been able to
arrange for transport due to financial restrictions. I've got 450
pictures and nearly a gigabyte of video to sort through, but here's a
quick series of shots, including one or two with yours truly striking a
pose:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/s370/
The system is a member of the 9370 family. It consists of a 9375
processor, five 9335-B01 disk drives (824MB/ea), two 9335-A01
controllers, and a 3430 tape drive. Everything was shrink-wrapped and
sealed with IBM anti-tamper stickers. All the cabling is present; it's
all coiled up in the back of the processor cabinet. I also received a
mountain of documentation which I've not yet gone through. Everything
is absolutely pristine save for some tape residue. I broke the seals
and unwrapped the system personally, with camera rolling and heart pounding.
Thanks to my friend George Adkins for the Herculean effort of loading
it onto a truck in North Carolina and bringing it down here, and my
friends James Sharp and Pat Sherrill for assisting with the unload.
If I can get it running, I'd like to run VM/370 and/or MVS on it. It
originally ran VSE/SP. On that note...does anyone have an appropriate
console terminal for this system that might be available? I believe
that'd be a 3215, or perhaps an early (C.U.T. protocol I think) 3270.
I am so happy about this I can hardly contain myself. =)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
4 Jun
4 Jun
2:03 a.m.
Nice!
I know how you are feeling, I had the same when we picked up 2 11/70
machines in Italy. Like a child in a candy shop when everything is free.
But, the Sun (6800 model?) is a bit odd?
Ed
I've just taken possession of a small IBM System/370 mainframe, and I
thought I'd share the joy. This system has been sitting in North
Carolina waiting for me for about six months; I've only now been able to
arrange for transport due to financial restrictions. I've got 450
pictures and nearly a gigabyte of video to sort through, but here's a
quick series of shots, including one or two with yours truly striking a
pose:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/s370/
The system is a member of the 9370 family. It consists of a 9375
processor, five 9335-B01 disk drives (824MB/ea), two 9335-A01
controllers, and a 3430 tape drive. Everything was shrink-wrapped and
sealed with IBM anti-tamper stickers. All the cabling is present; it's
all coiled up in the back of the processor cabinet. I also received a
mountain of documentation which I've not yet gone through. Everything
is absolutely pristine save for some tape residue. I broke the seals
and unwrapped the system personally, with camera rolling and heart
pounding.
Thanks to my friend George Adkins for the Herculean effort of loading
it onto a truck in North Carolina and bringing it down here, and my
friends James Sharp and Pat Sherrill for assisting with the unload.
If I can get it running, I'd like to run VM/370 and/or MVS on it. It
originally ran VSE/SP. On that note...does anyone have an appropriate
console terminal for this system that might be available? I believe
that'd be a 3215, or perhaps an early (C.U.T. protocol I think) 3270.
I am so happy about this I can hardly contain myself. =)
-Dave
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Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
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2:14 a.m.
On 6/4/10 2:03 AM, E. Groenenberg wrote:
Nice!
Thank you!
I know how you are feeling, I had the same when we
picked up 2 11/70
machines in Italy. Like a child in a candy shop when everything is free.
Oh, 11/70s...I do love those systems! Do you have pictures to share?
But, the Sun (6800 model?) is a bit odd?
It's a 4800; that system belongs to my employer. I obtained it
locally, configured it here, and am shipping it to a datacenter in
Wisconsin. I have two other of my employer's 4800s here, along with two
6800s.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
3:06 a.m.
Hell yes!! What a find!
How do you supply the power and keep a thing like that cool?
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Dave McGuire
Sent: 04 June 2010 06:18
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: IBM S/370 retrieved
I've just taken possession of a small IBM System/370 mainframe, and I
thought I'd share the joy. This system has been sitting in North
Carolina waiting for me for about six months; I've only now been able to
arrange for transport due to financial restrictions. I've got 450
pictures and nearly a gigabyte of video to sort through, but here's a
quick series of shots, including one or two with yours truly striking a
pose:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/s370/
The system is a member of the 9370 family. It consists of a 9375
processor, five 9335-B01 disk drives (824MB/ea), two 9335-A01
controllers, and a 3430 tape drive. Everything was shrink-wrapped and
sealed with IBM anti-tamper stickers. All the cabling is present; it's
all coiled up in the back of the processor cabinet. I also received a
mountain of documentation which I've not yet gone through. Everything
is absolutely pristine save for some tape residue. I broke the seals
and unwrapped the system personally, with camera rolling and heart pounding.
Thanks to my friend George Adkins for the Herculean effort of loading
it onto a truck in North Carolina and bringing it down here, and my
friends James Sharp and Pat Sherrill for assisting with the unload.
If I can get it running, I'd like to run VM/370 and/or MVS on it. It
originally ran VSE/SP. On that note...does anyone have an appropriate
console terminal for this system that might be available? I believe
that'd be a 3215, or perhaps an early (C.U.T. protocol I think) 3270.
I am so happy about this I can hardly contain myself. =)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
1:31 p.m.
On 6/4/10 3:06 AM, RodSmallwood wrote:
Hell yes!! What a find!
How do you supply the power and keep a thing like that cool?
It runs on standard 220V power, that's easy. Keeping it cool,
well...air conditioning! I wouldn't be able to run it much here in the
summer, as my A/C unit is barely keeping up with the heat of the day as
it is (I have several large non-recreational systems belching out heat
here) but the winter should be no problem, now that our nonexistent
climate change has actually given my part of the country a "winter" in
the past couple of years.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
8:35 a.m.
Congrats Dave! That looks like your going to have fun.
Rob
On Jun 4, 2010, at 1:17 AM, Dave McGuire wrote:
I've just taken possession of a small IBM System/370 mainframe, and I
thought I'd share the joy.
Rob Borsuk
email: rborsuk at colourfull.com
Colourfull Creations
Web: http://www.colourfull.com
10:53 a.m.
I've just taken possession of a small IBM
System/370 mainframe, and I
thought I'd share the joy. This system has been sitting in North
Carolina waiting for me for about six months; I've only now been able to
arrange for transport due to financial restrictions. I've got 450
pictures and nearly a gigabyte of video to sort through, but here's a
quick series of shots, including one or two with yours truly striking a
pose:
Beautiful! Mazeltov!
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11:22 a.m.
On Thursday 03 June 2010, Dave McGuire wrote:
--snip--
I am so happy about this I can hardly contain myself. =)
What a find! Pristine and complete! Congratulations!!!
Best to you at getting it up and running - esp. VM/370 and MVS. However, the
"current" VSE/SP is also an excellent OS...
Cheers,
Lyle
--
Lyle Bickley, AF6WS
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
1:17 p.m.
On 6/4/10 11:22 AM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
Thanks! Yes, I'm sure VSE is a great OS, many people speak highly of
it. I just don't know anything about it. Is there a VSE distribution
floating around that I could run under Hercules, or perhaps on a P/390?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
I am so
happy about this I can hardly contain myself. =)
What a find! Pristine and complete! Congratulations!!!
Best to you at getting it up and running - esp. VM/370 and MVS. However, the
"current" VSE/SP is also an excellent OS...
3:46 p.m.
On Friday 04 June 2010, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 6/4/10 11:22 AM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
Thanks! Yes, I'm sure VSE is a great OS, many people speak highly of
it. I just don't know anything about it. Is there a VSE distribution
floating around that I could run under Hercules, or perhaps on a P/390?
There may be a link here: http://www.lehigh.edu/~wsm0/vse-l/vse-l_links.shtml
Technically, Hercules will run just about all IBM MF OSs. However, legally, one can only
run: OS/360, DOS/360, DOS/VS, MVS, VM/370, and TSS/370 which IBM released to the public
domain and/or under copyright for non-commercial use only.
Cheers,
Lyle
--
Lyle Bickley, AF6WS
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
I am so
happy about this I can hardly contain myself. =)
What a find! Pristine and complete! Congratulations!!!
Best to you at getting it up and running - esp. VM/370 and MVS. However, the
"current" VSE/SP is also an excellent OS... 
6:52 p.m.
Technically, Hercules will run just about all IBM MF
OSs. However, legally, one can only run: OS/360, DOS/360, DOS/VS, MVS, VM/370, and TSS/370
which IBM released to the public domain and/or under copyright for non-commercial use
only.
Did they really release these for public domain, or did they just not
protect these properly?
--
Will
9:23 p.m.
On Friday 04 June 2010, Lyle Bickley wrote:
On Friday 04 June 2010, Dave McGuire wrote:
I found more info on DOS/VS (not VSE, but close ;-) 1n the Hercules FAQ:
2.07 Where can I obtain DOS/VS ?
I've put the DOS/VS r34 install tape on my site. It'll expand to a 21 MB AWSTAPE
file, dosrel34.aws. You need the Coverletter to install it. Read the relevant postings of
the Hercules mailing list first, as the install process is quite obscure.
You can grab those files at :
* http://www.hercules-390.org/dosrel34.zip
* http://www.hercules-390.org/dosrel34coverletter.pdf
* http://open360.copyleft.de/DOS34/Installation.html (bad link)
Cheers,
Lyle
--
Lyle Bickley, AF6WS
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
On 6/4/10 11:22 AM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
Thanks! Yes, I'm sure VSE is a great OS, many people speak highly of
it. I just don't know anything about it. Is there a VSE distribution
floating around that I could run under Hercules, or perhaps on a P/390?
There may be a link here: http://www.lehigh.edu/~wsm0/vse-l/vse-l_links.shtml
Technically, Hercules will run just about all IBM MF OSs. However, legally, one can only
run: OS/360, DOS/360, DOS/VS, MVS, VM/370, and TSS/370 which IBM released to the public
domain and/or under copyright for non-commercial use only. I am so
happy about this I can hardly contain myself. =)
What a find! Pristine and complete! Congratulations!!!
Best to you at getting it up and running - esp. VM/370 and MVS. However, the
"current" VSE/SP is also an excellent OS... 
16 Jun
16 Jun
10:12 a.m.
Let me know if I can be of VSE or VM help..I used to be a systems programmer for a VM/SP /
VSE/SP shop.
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu ####? #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ##? ##? ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA????????? ####? #### Saved by grace
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From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf
Of Dave McGuire
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:18 PM
To: General at harpercollege.edu; On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: IBM S/370 retrieved
On 6/4/10 11:22 AM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
Thanks! Yes, I'm sure VSE is a great OS, many people speak highly of
it. I just don't know anything about it. Is there a VSE distribution
floating around that I could run under Hercules, or perhaps on a P/390?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
I am so
happy about this I can hardly contain myself. =)
What a find! Pristine and complete! Congratulations!!!
Best to you at getting it up and running - esp. VM/370 and MVS. However, the
"current" VSE/SP is also an excellent OS...
17 Jun
17 Jun
12:40 a.m.
Hey Dave!
I think Bob may be as big a find as the system!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Bob Brown
Sent: 16 June 2010 15:13
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: IBM S/370 retrieved
Let me know if I can be of VSE or VM help..I used to be a systems programmer
for a VM/SP / VSE/SP shop.
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu ####? #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ##? ##? ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA????????? ####? #### Saved by grace
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Dave McGuire
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:18 PM
To: General at harpercollege.edu; On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: IBM S/370 retrieved
On 6/4/10 11:22 AM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
the
"current" VSE/SP is also an excellent OS...
Thanks! Yes, I'm sure VSE is a great OS, many people speak highly of
it. I just don't know anything about it. Is there a VSE distribution
floating around that I could run under Hercules, or perhaps on a P/390?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
I am so
happy about this I can hardly contain myself. =)
What a find! Pristine and complete! Congratulations!!!
Best to you at getting it up and running - esp. VM/370 and MVS. However, 
4 Jun
4 Jun
11:26 a.m.
Not being very familiar with later-model IBM stuff, what vintage is this stuff?
early 90's perhaps?
... and JOOC, what is the big black IBM cabinet to the left in the last photo?
Dave McGuire wrote:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/s370/
The system is a member of the 9370 family. It consists of a 9375
processor, five 9335-B01 disk drives (824MB/ea), two 9335-A01
controllers, and a 3430 tape drive. Everything was shrink-wrapped and
sealed with IBM anti-tamper stickers. All the cabling is present; it's
all coiled up in the back of the processor cabinet. I also received a
mountain of documentation which I've not yet gone through. Everything
is absolutely pristine save for some tape residue. I broke the seals
and unwrapped the system personally, with camera rolling and heart pounding.
1:07 p.m.
On 6/4/10 11:44 AM, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
Sridhar SHOULD believe that, as he helped me move it. ;) It is indeed
a z890, a system that belongs to my employer. I hope to have it running
in a datacenter soon.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
Brent Hilpert wrote:
The 9370 family was announced in 1986.
Not being very familiar with later-model IBM
stuff, what vintage is
this stuff?
early 90's perhaps?
Mid-to-late '80s. ... and JOOC,
what is the big black IBM cabinet to the left in the
last photo?
IBM z890, I believe. 
5 Jun
5 Jun
3 p.m.
Not being very familiar with later-model IBM stuff,
what vintage is this stuff?
early 90's perhaps?
I remember the announcement. I think it was when I was doing a vacation
job with IBM in 1987 [*]. I've still got some of the marketing leaflets
- "Welcome to the new computer room" with a picture of a 9370 in an
office. The implication was that the 9370 machines were more like minis
than mainframes, and didn't need a dedicated computer room.
But IBM probably expected your office to be air conditioned...
Philip.
[*] It could have been 1986. But more likely we didn't get them until a
year after the US.
16 Jun
16 Jun
10:08 a.m.
Sweet!
-Bob
bbrown at harpercollege.edu ####? #### Bob Brown - KB9LFR
Harper Community College ##? ##? ## Supervisor of Operations
Palatine IL USA????????? ####? #### Saved by grace
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf
Of Dave McGuire
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:18 AM
To: General at harpercollege.edu; On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: IBM S/370 retrieved
I've just taken possession of a small IBM System/370 mainframe, and I
thought I'd share the joy. This system has been sitting in North
Carolina waiting for me for about six months; I've only now been able to
arrange for transport due to financial restrictions. I've got 450
pictures and nearly a gigabyte of video to sort through, but here's a
quick series of shots, including one or two with yours truly striking a
pose:
http://www.neurotica.com/misc/s370/
The system is a member of the 9370 family. It consists of a 9375
processor, five 9335-B01 disk drives (824MB/ea), two 9335-A01
controllers, and a 3430 tape drive. Everything was shrink-wrapped and
sealed with IBM anti-tamper stickers. All the cabling is present; it's
all coiled up in the back of the processor cabinet. I also received a
mountain of documentation which I've not yet gone through. Everything
is absolutely pristine save for some tape residue. I broke the seals
and unwrapped the system personally, with camera rolling and heart pounding.
Thanks to my friend George Adkins for the Herculean effort of loading
it onto a truck in North Carolina and bringing it down here, and my
friends James Sharp and Pat Sherrill for assisting with the unload.
If I can get it running, I'd like to run VM/370 and/or MVS on it. It
originally ran VSE/SP. On that note...does anyone have an appropriate
console terminal for this system that might be available? I believe
that'd be a 3215, or perhaps an early (C.U.T. protocol I think) 3270.
I am so happy about this I can hardly contain myself. =)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
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lbickley＠bickleywest.com -
mcguire＠neurotica.com -
philip＠axeside.co.uk -
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rodsmallwood＠btconnect.com -
spectre＠floodgap.com -
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