8 Mar
2009
8 Mar
'09
6:12 a.m.
Not long ago this could have been a $10,000 item.
Before pursuing this, take a look at the fake Apple I
thread from last June.
Twiggy Macs go for that much, Lisa 2's do not.
8 Mar
8 Mar
2:44 p.m.
has anyone read the auction and seen the "Buy It Now" ?
no?
the reserve is normally the same (or close),
buy it now for $5K !
so whoever said $1k-$2k, its not going to go for that.
the guy obviously thinks it's worth a lot more.
I once saw a Sun server (worth at most $1500) go for over $5000
on fleabay...
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 22:12:07 -0800
From: aek at bitsavers.org
To: classiccmp at classiccmp.org
CC:
Subject: Re: Considering Bidding (Apple Lisa in box on eBay)
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Not long ago this could have been a $10,000 item.
Before pursuing this, take a look at the fake Apple I
thread from last June.
Twiggy Macs go for that much, Lisa 2's do not.
2:58 p.m.
I believe someone actually offered over $4000 (but not quite the "Buy
it noiw" price, and the seller turned him down.
Mark
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Dan Gahlinger <dgahling at hotmail.com> wrote:
has anyone read the auction and seen the "Buy It Now" ?
no?
the reserve is normally the same (or close),
buy it now for $5K !
so whoever said $1k-$2k, its not going to go for that.
the guy obviously thinks it's worth a lot more.
I once saw a Sun server (worth at most $1500) go for over $5000
on fleabay...
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 22:12:07 -0800
From: aek at bitsavers.org
To: classiccmp at classiccmp.org
CC:
Subject: Re: Considering Bidding (Apple Lisa in box on eBay)
?> Not long ago this could have been a $10,000 item.
Before pursuing this, take a look at the fake Apple I
thread from last June.
Twiggy Macs go for that much, Lisa 2's do not.
_________________________________________________________________
Reinvent how you stay in touch with the new Windows Live Messenger.
http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9650731 
9 Mar
9 Mar
4:41 p.m.
These are different times though. It is very hard to sell vintage gear
on ebay right now and the auctions all end lower then they did 6 months
ago and way lower then a year ago. Collectibles go in cycles as well
and really thats what this vintage gear is.
Is it just the economy or is the little blip of interest in vintage
computer collecting subsiding ? Who knows. Probably best to just stuff
your prized computers back in the closet for another year or two till
this blows over. Perhaps its the time to think about buying if you are
one of the rare people that have 'extra' cash anymore for things like
hobbies and collecting.
Dan Gahlinger wrote:
has anyone read the auction and seen the "Buy It
Now" ?
no?
the reserve is normally the same (or close),
buy it now for $5K !
so whoever said $1k-$2k, its not going to go for that.
the guy obviously thinks it's worth a lot more.
I once saw a Sun server (worth at most $1500) go for over $5000
on fleabay...
10 Mar
10 Mar
8:11 p.m.
These are different times though. It is very hard to sell vintage gear
on ebay right now and the auctions all end lower then they did 6 months
ago and way lower then a year ago. Collectibles go in cycles as well
and really thats what this vintage gear is.
Is it just the economy or is the little blip of interest in vintage
computer collecting subsiding ? Who knows. Probably best to just stuff
Being selfish aout it, this is a Good Thing for me. It means I can
possibly afford interesting new toys to investigate, repair, etc.
your prized computers back in the closet for another
year or two till
I think I'll just keep them on the workbench as I always do. Not all of
us are into this hobby for financial gain.
-tony
11 Mar
11 Mar
8:45 p.m.
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009, Tony Duell wrote:
For me, financial gain turned out to be a byproduct. I jumped at the
chance to get a vintage IMSAI a few years ago. I'm still selling off the
shedful of stuff I was required to take along with the goodies I wanted.
This is how I fund my hobby now.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
These are
different times though. It is very hard to sell vintage gear
on ebay right now and the auctions all end lower then they did 6 months
ago and way lower then a year ago. Collectibles go in cycles as well
and really thats what this vintage gear is.
Is it just the economy or is the little blip of interest in vintage
computer collecting subsiding ? Who knows. Probably best to just stuff
Being selfish aout it, this is a Good Thing for me. It means I can
possibly afford interesting new toys to investigate, repair, etc.
your prized computers back in the closet for
another year or two till
I think I'll just keep them on the workbench as I always do. Not all of
us are into this hobby for financial gain. 
9:05 p.m.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:45 PM, David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> wrote:
For me, financial gain turned out to be a byproduct.
?I jumped at the chance
to get a vintage IMSAI a few years ago. ?I'm still selling off the shedful
of stuff I was required to take along with the goodies I wanted. This is how
I fund my hobby now.
Not only does it fund the hobby, it generates interference for the
hobby's critics. "But....I can make it pay for itself, really!"
Sadly this doesn't hold true in all cases. Not until there's a
massive upswing in the collectibility of Commodore dot-matrix
printers, anyway.
9:13 p.m.
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Jason T wrote:
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:45 PM, David Griffith
<dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> wrote:
Why did you accumulate Commodore dot-matrix printers like that in the
first place? If they work, I can help you sell them.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
For me, financial gain turned out to be a
byproduct. ?I jumped at the chance
to get a vintage IMSAI a few years ago. ?I'm still selling off the shedful
of stuff I was required to take along with the goodies I wanted. This is how
I fund my hobby now.
Not only does it fund the hobby, it generates interference for the
hobby's critics. "But....I can make it pay for itself, really!"
Sadly this doesn't hold true in all cases. Not until there's a
massive upswing in the collectibility of Commodore dot-matrix
printers, anyway. 
9:29 p.m.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 5:13 PM, David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> wrote:
Why did you accumulate Commodore dot-matrix printers
like that in the first
place? ?If they work, I can help you sell them.
If they are 1525 printers, the paper is more collectible than the printer. ;-)
I've owned a few Commodore dot-matrix printers over the years - the
biggest problem I remember with them was that each one was different
enough from the other models that even though they'd all respond to,
say channel 4 on either the IEEE-488 or IEC bus, and you could send
generic strings, all the "features" (the widths, the fonts, the
soft-settable chars, etc.) were unique or nearly unique to that model.
I think I used the 1526 the most of any C= printer before switching to
inexpensive non-C= printers and rigging up my own Centronics cable and
driver. I mostly printed assembler listings anyway, so I didn't miss
the C= graphic chars that my printers couldn't print. I do have a
memory that for what I was doing, the 1526 was a fine printer, but it
was less common than other C= printers, so there was rarely any
published software that knew its quirks.
The next time I want to print something from a C-64 or a PET, I may
just do what it takes to hook up one of my HP laser printers - that's
sufficiently perverse to be entertaining.
-ethan
10:15 p.m.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 4:13 PM, David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> wrote:
Why did you accumulate Commodore dot-matrix printers
like that in the first
place? ?If they work, I can help you sell them.
It was in reference to your previous comment - it seems every time I
pick up a Commodore lot locally, there's always a printer in the pile
along with the stuff I really wanted, and I'm obligated to take it.
10:23 p.m.
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Jason T wrote:
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 4:13 PM, David Griffith
<dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> wrote:
Mmm... Reminds me of the HP 2932a printers I had a while ago. I took out
the printheads before chucking them. Anyone want some printheads?
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Why did you accumulate Commodore dot-matrix
printers like that in the first
place? ?If they work, I can help you sell them.
It was in reference to your previous comment - it seems every time I
pick up a Commodore lot locally, there's always a printer in the pile
along with the stuff I really wanted, and I'm obligated to take it. 
10:58 p.m.
In article <51ea77730903111515n4f5702ffw38d2a3e749e8b847 at mail.gmail.com>,
Jason T <silent700 at gmail.com> writes:
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 4:13 PM, David Griffith
<dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> w=
rote:
I was gifted a Commodore printer along with a CBM 8032. I gave the
printer to the local Commodore vintage shop. He was happy to take it
off my hands.
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Why did you accumulate Commodore dot-matrix
printers like that in the f=
irst
place? =A0If they work, I can help you sell them.
It was in reference to your previous comment - it seems every time I
pick up a Commodore lot locally, there's always a printer in the pile
along with the stuff I really wanted, and I'm obligated to take it.
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