19 Mar
2006
19 Mar
'06
2:45 p.m.
I have a Hazeltine 1420 in very good cosmetic condition, but it does not
power up. I have a working one and little desire to spend time to fix this
one.
I'd rather this not go to the dumpster... anyone want it for the cost of
shipping?
Jay
9:43 a.m.
In article <200603201134.k2KBYbZV026204 at mwave.heeltoe.com>,
Brad Parker <brad at heeltoe.com> writes:
"Jay West" wrote:
I haven't seen any Hazeltine terminals on ebay yet. Televideo
terminals come up fairly often as do Heathkit terminals. DEC
terminals show up regularly.
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I have a Hazeltine 1420 in very good cosmetic
condition, but it does not
power up. I have a working one and little desire to spend time to fix this
one.
I'd love to find a 2000 some day. Are they rare? 
10:31 a.m.
New subject: Televideo (was Re: Hazeltine 1420 available)
On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 07:43:30AM -0700, Richard wrote:
Televideo terminals come up fairly often
That is, unless you're looking for a TS800 or similar, like I am (or any
TS8xx gear...) My dad used to have a TS806 at his practice, which I
took apart after it broke (and which my parents threw out :(.
Couple years ago, Don Maslin sent me a TS816, but I don't have any
terminals to go with it now (and it seems to have a bad hard drive
and tape drive...).
Anyone else here collect Televideo stuff? Or, have some they want to
get rid of? :)
Pat
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11:08 a.m.
New subject: Televideo (was Re: Hazeltine 1420 available)
In article <20060320153151.GA25417 at ned.cc.purdue.edu>,
Patrick Finnegan <vax at purdue.edu> writes:
On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 07:43:30AM -0700, Richard
wrote:
Well, I just meant the brand in general. The Televideo Personal
Terminal has shown up several times lately and the 9xx series seem to
show up regularly. I haven't seen other models.
What's really frustrating is to buy a weird terminal and have it
arrived smashed to bits because the seller packed it like a dumbshit.
Now I have to fight with UPS or whoever to get the insurance on it.
BUT I DON'T WANT THE MONEY, I WANT THE TERMINAL! The money isn't the
point, although it does add insult to injury.
I've added a big section to my "collecting serial terminals" guide
explaining how to ship the beasts.
Televideo terminals come up fairly often
That is, unless you're looking for a TS800 or similar, [...] Anyone else here collect Televideo stuff? Or, have
some they want to
get rid of? :)
I have a 925 and a smashed Personal Terminal (which looks cute, too
bad the seller botched the packing).
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21 Mar
6:32 p.m.
New subject: Televideo (was Re: Hazeltine 1420 available)
--- Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
What's really frustrating is to buy a weird terminal and have it
arrived smashed to bits because the seller packed it like a dumbshit.
I've added a big section to my "collecting serial terminals" guide
explaining how to ship the beasts.
I learned long ago, when dealing with potentially ignorant shippers, to
have the conversation, emphasis, and packing instructions made clear
before payment is rendered. I've found that competent shippers take
no offense at the dialogue.
With super-rare one-of-a-kind shipments, it is often better to have the
seller drop the unit off at a "UPS Store" or a freight forwarder, and
pay the premium for the extra handling, care, and expertise... for a
terminal, this might mean a $100+ shipping charge, but some things (a
VT05, anyone?) are priceless.
Cheers,
Mo
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6:51 p.m.
New subject: Careful Shipping (was: Televideo (was Re: Hazeltine 1420 available))
In article <20060321233256.71435.qmail at web31513.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
Mo <molists at yahoo.com> writes:
I learned long ago, when dealing with potentially
ignorant shippers, to
have the conversation, emphasis, and packing instructions made clear
before payment is rendered. I've found that competent shippers take
no offense at the dialogue.
Yeah, I'm learning this now :-(.
With super-rare one-of-a-kind shipments, it is often
better to have the
seller drop the unit off at a "UPS Store" or a freight forwarder, and
pay the premium for the extra handling, care, and expertise... for a
terminal, this might mean a $100+ shipping charge, but some things (a
VT05, anyone?) are priceless.
Agreed, fortunately nothing that's been damaged was this rare or I
would have been super pissed. Instead I'm just frustrated and angry
at their stupidity (and my own for trusting them to do the Right
Thing.)
I'd appreciate feedback on the Shipping section of my guide:
<http://tinyurl.com/q54hc>
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20 Mar
8:17 p.m.
New subject: Televideo (was Re: Hazeltine 1420 available)
On Monday 20 March 2006 10:31 am, Patrick Finnegan wrote:
On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 07:43:30AM -0700, Richard
wrote:
I have a TS816 as well, been sitting in my storage unit for quite a while.
Don also sent me a belt to put on that HD, though I never did get around to
installing it. The tape did work for me after I cleaned it up, but that was
a bunch of years ago.
I think I have a rather long cable to plug into one of those DB15 connectors,
too, someplace.
That's as far as I've gotten in terms of collecting that stuff. :-)
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Televideo terminals come up fairly often
That is, unless you're looking for a TS800 or similar, like I am (or any
TS8xx gear...) My dad used to have a TS806 at his practice, which I
took apart after it broke (and which my parents threw out :(.
Couple years ago, Don Maslin sent me a TS816, but I don't have any
terminals to go with it now (and it seems to have a bad hard drive
and tape drive...).
Anyone else here collect Televideo stuff? Or, have some they want to
get rid of? :)
11:17 p.m.
New subject: Televideo (was Re: Hazeltine 1420 available)
In article <200603202017.55476.rtellason at blazenet.net>,
"Roy J. Tellason" <rtellason at blazenet.net> writes:
On Monday 20 March 2006 10:31 am, Patrick Finnegan
wrote:
I just picked up a TS-803 from ebay. What got me interested in it
were two things: i) the case is funky and original, and ii) it
purports to be one of the few CP/M machines that had graphics right
out of the box. Amazingly it got here without the case getting
smashed. That's either luck on my part (based on how it was packed)
or they have sturdy cases. I think it ended up being a little bit of
both. With the funky case design, I was certain that it was going to
have sheared away from the main unit.
I think from now on I'm going to demand that they use a professional
packing service for shipping anything besides documentation. I'm tired
of paying $70 for a hulk of smashed plastic to be delivered to my house :-(.
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On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 07:43:30AM -0700, Richard
wrote:
I have a TS816 as well, [...] Televideo terminals come up fairly often
That is, unless you're looking for a TS800 or similar, like I am (or any
TS8xx gear...) My dad used to have a TS806 at his practice, which I
took apart after it broke (and which my parents threw out :(.
[...]
11:23 p.m.
New subject: Televideo (was Re: Hazeltine 1420 available)
OK, since I just got this TS-803, anyone have software for it? I
haven't powered it up yet, I need to go through a basic inspection of
everything first. But it didn't come with any manuals or disks, just
the hardware. In particular, I'd like to see some docs on the
graphics capabilities so that something could be coded on it.
I see no docs or bits on bitsavers and there is nothing beyond the
basic description on old-computers.com. Anyone?
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11:36 p.m.
New subject: Televideo (was Re: Hazeltine 1420 available)
I've got a TS803 user's manual. How do we get it onto Bitsavers? If I've
got the manual, I almost certainly have boot and utilities disks for it.
But I'd have to look around.
Cheers,
Chuck
On 3/20/2006 at 9:23 PM Richard wrote:
OK, since I just got this TS-803, anyone have software
for it? I
haven't powered it up yet, I need to go through a basic inspection of
everything first. But it didn't come with any manuals or disks, just
the hardware. In particular, I'd like to see some docs on the
graphics capabilities so that something could be coded on it.
I see no docs or bits on bitsavers and there is nothing beyond the
basic description on old-computers.com. Anyone?
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