8 Nov
2007
8 Nov
'07
11:24 p.m.
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 18:37:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Cameron Kaiser <spectre at floodgap.com>
Subject: Re: Commodore PET
> "Collectible Microcomputers" says: $150
to $400 (chiclet keyboard),
> $25 to $150 (typewriter keyboard)
>
> But I don't find that their idea of prices translates at all to the
> real world. Maybe about 10 years ago when noone cared about vintage
> computers, but not now.
FWIW, my Chiclet PET cost me a cool $900.
--------
Feh! My 8032/8050 cost me $5000!
And the Chiclet PET >$1000 IIRC.
Of course, that was a while ago, when no one cared about vintage computers
'cause there weren't any to speak of, and in CDN$ when they were worthless ;-)
Gonna run downstairs right now to replace the upgrade keyboard with the
original keyboard & tape drive; oughta double my net worth... ;-)
mike
8 Nov
8 Nov
11:37 p.m.
The last PET 2001 with the chiclet keyboard I bought cost me $35.
Clearly, there are bargains to be had. $150 is a fair price though.
Anyone want SuperPETs? I just bought five more.
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9 Nov
9 Nov
12:59 a.m.
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 11:37:52PM -0500, Golan Klinger wrote:
Anyone want SuperPETs? I just bought five more.
Where are you located? I'd want one shipped to 43232. I have the boards
from a SuperPET, but as spare, not a SuperPET itself.
-ethan
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9:09 p.m.
66049 here :) I'd like a shipping quote too!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ethan Dicks" <ethan.dicks at usap.gov>
To: "Golan Klinger" <gklinger at gmail.com>
Cc: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: Commodore PET
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 11:37:52PM -0500, Golan
Klinger wrote:
Anyone want SuperPETs? I just bought five more.
Where are you located? I'd want one shipped to 43232. I have the boards
from a SuperPET, but as spare, not a SuperPET itself.
-ethan
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Ethan Dicks, A-333-S Current South Pole Weather at 9-Nov-2007 at
05:50 Z
South Pole Station
PSC 468 Box 400 Temp -42.5 F (-41.4 C) Windchill -66.5 F (-54.7
C)
APO AP 96598 Wind 7.3 kts Grid 87 Barometer 691.3 mb (10205
ft)
Ethan.Dicks at usap.gov
http://penguincentral.com/penguincentral.html
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11:12 p.m.
For both the friendly list participants and the two doubting Thomases
who kindly took the time to email me to call me a liar (no SuperPETs
for you!), I have taken some photographs. You can find them at the
following URL:
<http://www.vex.net/~falco/PET/>
I'll direct your attention to the fourth picture. Two of the SuperPETs
contain those "Super OS/9 M.M.U." boards produced by the Toronto PET
Users Group (TPUG) [1] back in 1985 and if memory serves, they allow
for bitmapped graphics on the SuperPET. They are somewhat rare and I'm
not even sure if we (TPUG) have one in our inventory. I'm going to
make some inquiries as well as have a closer look at the board and
I'll post about it later. I may end up attempting to clone the board
and if I'm able to, I'll make them available to TPUG members at cost
(everyone is welcome to join, hint hint.)
Oh, I almost forgot, a SuperPET with the board will be on display at
the World of Commodore 2007 [2]. I hope to see some of you there.
That's it for now.
[1] <http://www.tpug.ca/>
[2] <http://www.tpug.ca/woc>
P.S. I got a lot more email about these than I expected. I will
respond to almost everyone. Just give me a little time please.
--
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11:23 p.m.
In article <e662ba380711092012mfd82fe0m431bbed5af27685b at mail.gmail.com>,
"Golan Klinger" <gklinger at gmail.com> writes:
For both the friendly list participants and the two
doubting Thomases
who kindly took the time to email me to call me a liar (no SuperPETs
for you!), I have taken some photographs. You can find them at the
following URL:
<http://www.vex.net/~falco/PET/>
Damn, those things look like you just took them out of the box! ;-)
I'll direct your attention to the fourth picture.
Two of the SuperPETs
contain those "Super OS/9 M.M.U." boards produced by the Toronto PET
Users Group (TPUG) [1] back in 1985 and if memory serves, they allow
for bitmapped graphics on the SuperPET.
That's cool! This is the first I've heard of bitmapped graphics on
the PET.
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11:36 p.m.
Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
Damn, those things look like you just took them out of
the box! ;-)
They are lovely, aren't they? They were kept in a storeroom under
custom made leather covers for 20+ years so they're as near to mint as
any SuperPET I've ever seen.
--
Golan Klinger <gklinger at gmail.com>
Dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.
10 Nov
10 Nov
1:38 a.m.
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 09:23:25PM -0700, Richard wrote:
The first bit-mapped board I saw for the PET was by, IIRC, MTU. It was
advertised in Byte, etc., in the day. Never saw one up close, just
screenshots of plotted mathematical equations.
-ethan
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I'll
direct your attention to the fourth picture. Two of the SuperPETs
contain those "Super OS/9 M.M.U." boards produced by the Toronto PET
Users Group (TPUG) [1] back in 1985 and if memory serves, they allow
for bitmapped graphics on the SuperPET.
That's cool! This is the first I've heard of bitmapped graphics on
the PET. 
1:56 a.m.
Golan Klinger wrote:
For both the friendly list participants and the two
doubting Thomases
who kindly took the time to email me to call me a liar (no SuperPETs
for you!), I have taken some photographs. You can find them at the
following URL:
<http://www.vex.net/~falco/PET/>
I'll direct your attention to the fourth picture. Two of the SuperPETs
contain those "Super OS/9 M.M.U." boards produced by the Toronto PET
Users Group (TPUG) [1] back in 1985 and if memory serves, they allow
for bitmapped graphics on the SuperPET. They are somewhat rare and I'm
not even sure if we (TPUG) have one in our inventory. I'm going to
make some inquiries as well as have a closer look at the board and
I'll post about it later. I may end up attempting to clone the board
and if I'm able to, I'll make them available to TPUG members at cost
(everyone is welcome to join, hint hint.)
I'm not one of the Doubting Thomases per se, but that board sounds more
like a OS/9 memory management unit. It looks like it plugs into the
6809 socket and allows some funkiness with the memory map.
The board looks trivial to clone. I'd run one out on Eagle if a board
makes it my way to run the DMM over.
Jim
2:17 a.m.
Jim Brain wrote:
I'm not one of the Doubting Thomases per se, but
that board sounds more
like a OS/9 memory management unit. It looks like it plugs into the
6809 socket and allows some funkiness with the memory map.
I think you're right, Jim. I spoke to the person I got these from and
he assures me that they facilitated bitmap graphics and suggested I
try a few pieces of software he included (I got 40 odd disks from
him.) Perhaps the graphics are being generated by programs running
under OS/9. I just don't know (yet.) This weekend's tests will
straighten things out.
--
Golan Klinger <gklinger at gmail.com>
Dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.
8:02 a.m.
From: "Mr Ian Primus" <ian_primus at yahoo.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: Commodore PET
I have taken some photographs. You can
I'm seriously jealous
Lance
find them at the
following URL:
<http://www.vex.net/~falco/PET/>
Wow! Those are really, really beautiful. Nice find!
8 Nov
8 Nov
11:45 p.m.
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 11:24:16PM -0500, M H Stein wrote:
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 18:37:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Cameron Kaiser <spectre at floodgap.com>
Subject: Re: Commodore PET
My PET 2001-32N (badged as a 3032 in Europe) was $1195 with a C2N and no
disk...
> "Collectible Microcomputers" says:
$150 to $400 (chiclet keyboard),
> $25 to $150 (typewriter keyboard)
>
> But I don't find that their idea of prices translates at all to the
> real world. Maybe about 10 years ago when noone cared about vintage
> computers, but not now.
FWIW, my Chiclet PET cost me a cool $900.
--------
Feh! My 8032/8050 cost me $5000!
And the Chiclet PET >$1000 IIRC. Of course, that was a while ago, when no one cared
about vintage computers
'cause there weren't any to speak of, and in CDN$ when they were worthless ;-)
At least mine was in USD.
I got a lot of miles out of that PET. I still have it and it still
fires up (but I think I have an IEEE problem that may turn out to be
cruddy 40-pin sockets on the VLSI I/O chips).
We were going to get an 8K PET, but my mother decided to get something
that wouldn't be limiting the day it was brought home. I didn't get a
disk drive for it for many years, and when I did, it was a 2040 with
upgrade ROMs, turning it into a 4040, from University Surplus.
I wouldn't mind getting a chicklet-keyboard PET (I sold that $100 one
I had a few years back for slightly more than I paid), but I don't want
one badly enough to pay $900. I'd probably seriously consider a broken
PET with a shell in good shape, since I'm confident of my abilities to
diagnose bad RAMs, bad sockets, etc.
-ethan
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South Pole Station
PSC 468 Box 400 Temp -42.9 F (-41.6 C) Windchill -69.1 F (-56.2 C)
APO AP 96598 Wind 8.7 kts Grid 85 Barometer 691.1 mb (10212 ft)
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11:56 p.m.
Ethan Dicks wrote:
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 11:24:16PM -0500, M H Stein
wrote:
I sold one of my Educator 64's a year ago for $1200. It's not actually
a PET, but still...
Mike
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 18:37:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Cameron Kaiser <spectre at floodgap.com>
Subject: Re: Commodore PET
--------
Feh! My 8032/8050 cost me $5000!
And the Chiclet PET >$1000 IIRC.
My PET 2001-32N (badged as a 3032 in Europe) was $1195 with a C2N and no
disk...
"Collectible Microcomputers" says: $150 to $400 (chiclet keyboard),
$25 to $150 (typewriter keyboard)
But I don't find that their idea of prices translates at all to the
real world. Maybe about 10 years ago when noone cared about vintage
computers, but not now.
FWIW, my Chiclet PET cost me a cool $900. Of course, that was a while ago, when no one
cared about vintage computers
'cause there weren't any to speak of, and in CDN$ when they were worthless ;-)
At least mine was in USD.
I got a lot of miles out of that PET. I still have it and it still
fires up (but I think I have an IEEE problem that may turn out to be
cruddy 40-pin sockets on the VLSI I/O chips).
We were going to get an 8K PET, but my mother decided to get something
that wouldn't be limiting the day it was brought home. I didn't get a
disk drive for it for many years, and when I did, it was a 2040 with
upgrade ROMs, turning it into a 4040, from University Surplus.
I wouldn't mind getting a chicklet-keyboard PET (I sold that $100 one
I had a few years back for slightly more than I paid), but I don't want
one badly enough to pay $900. I'd probably seriously consider a broken
PET with a shell in good shape, since I'm confident of my abilities to
diagnose bad RAMs, bad sockets, etc.
-ethan
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