7 Dec
2012
7 Dec
'12
10:34 a.m.
Hi all,
know it sounds weird (but I travel a lot, laptop user on the road).
Anyway, does USB-SCSI adapter exist, if yes, are they really worth the
money?
My laptop doesn't even have PCMCIA slots anymore ...
Cheers & thanks
8 Dec
8 Dec
3:51 p.m.
On Dec 8, 2012 12:36 PM, "emanuel stiebler" <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
They used to exist. I don't know if anyone makes one as a current
product. I doubt there would be enough demand to support a current product.
http://www.adaptec.com/en-us/support/_eol/usb_scsi/usb2xchange/
Hi all,
know it sounds weird (but I travel a lot, laptop user on the road).
Anyway, does USB-SCSI adapter exist, if yes, are they really worth the
money?
8:05 p.m.
I have and use a RATOC System U2SCXU (usb-hd50).
With a couple other adaptors (hd50 gender changer, hd50-hd68)
I usually connect to a SLR5 tape drive for tape reading and on occation,
also a DAT24 drive (dds3).
<hobby_plug> www.3kranger.com/3ktapes.shtm </hobby_plug>
I use Cygwin with the commands "mt" for tape control and "dd" to read
with.
Keven Miller
9 Dec
9 Dec
7:35 p.m.
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Keven Miller (rtt)
<kevenm at reeltapetransfer.com> wrote:
I have and use a RATOC System U2SCXU (usb-hd50).
With a couple other adaptors (hd50 gender changer, hd50-hd68)
I usually connect to a SLR5 tape drive for tape reading and on occation,
also a DAT24 drive (dds3).
<hobby_plug> www.3kranger.com/3ktapes.shtm </hobby_plug>
I use Cygwin with the commands "mt" for tape control and "dd" to read
with.
Interesting...this cable is hard to find (only one on eBay, at a
laughable $179) but it happens to look exactly (save for the color of
the plastic shell) like the MicroTech USB-SCSI-HD50 I have here. The
last driver for the MicroTech was for Windows 2000, although I read on
one user's blog that he he got it to work in WinXP (albeit 32 bit
only.) OSX support also ended around 10.3 or 10.4
RATOC's site says their adapter is supported through Win7x64.
However, that driver download is behind a registration wall. I'd
really like to see if their driver would work with this earlier
MicroTech version of the device. Since you're using Cygwin, I am
guessing you are using Windows as well.
--
jht
14 Dec
14 Dec
8:07 a.m.
I currently have the March 2003 version 1.0 software.
I cannot seem to find a CD that I thought came with it.
But I find that a newer (5.01) version is available from the RATOC site
http://www.ratocsystems.com/english/download/software.html
Along with the WIN7 version, as you said, requiring a key.
I am using the U2SCX under WinXP (Pro).
Keven Miller
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Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 05:35 PM
Subject: Re: SCSI <-> USB
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Keven Miller (rtt)
<kevenm at reeltapetransfer.com> wrote:
I have and use a RATOC System U2SCXU
(usb-hd50).
With a couple other adaptors (hd50 gender changer, hd50-hd68)
I usually connect to a SLR5 tape drive for tape reading and on occation,
also a DAT24 drive (dds3).
<hobby_plug> www.3kranger.com/3ktapes.shtm </hobby_plug>
I use Cygwin with the commands "mt" for tape control and "dd" to read
with.
Interesting...this cable is hard to find (only one on eBay, at a
laughable $179) but it happens to look exactly (save for the color of
the plastic shell) like the MicroTech USB-SCSI-HD50 I have here. The
last driver for the MicroTech was for Windows 2000, although I read on
one user's blog that he he got it to work in WinXP (albeit 32 bit
only.) OSX support also ended around 10.3 or 10.4
RATOC's site says their adapter is supported through Win7x64.
However, that driver download is behind a registration wall. I'd
really like to see if their driver would work with this earlier
MicroTech version of the device. Since you're using Cygwin, I am
guessing you are using Windows as well.
--
jht
8 Dec
8 Dec
8:06 p.m.
I have and use a RATOC System U2SCXU (usb-hd50).
With a couple other adaptors (hd50 gender changer, hd50-hd68)
I usually connect to a SLR5 tape drive for tape reading and on occasion,
also a DAT24 drive (dds3).
<hobby_plug> www.3kranger.com/3ktapes.shtm </hobby_plug>
I use Cygwin with the commands "mt" for tape control and "dd" to read
with.
Keven Miller
9:15 p.m.
On 12/8/12 5:06 PM, Keven Miller (rtt) wrote:
<hobby_plug> www.3kranger.com/3ktapes.shtm
</hobby_plug>
well, that's interesting...
do you have any pre-HPIB FOS tapes?
work on a simulator is stalled because we've only been able to
find FOS tapes for series 40 and newer.
4:22 p.m.
On 7 dec. 2012, at 16:34, emanuel stiebler <emu at e-bbes.com> wrote:
does USB-SCSI adapter exist, if yes, are they really
worth the money?
Yes, they exist. I found one on eBay just now for $40 (search for "USB SCSI").
Whether they are worth the money depends on what you consider throwaway money for a little
gamble.
Applications are somewhat limited, though and since they date back to the late nineties,
OS support and driver availability may be issues to wrestle with.
.tsooJ
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6:45 p.m.
At 10:22 PM +0100 12/8/12, Joost van de Griek wrote:
On 7 dec. 2012, at 16:34, emanuel stiebler <emu at
e-bbes.com> wrote:
I find myself wondering if VueScan works with them. I have an
ancient 300dpi UMAX scanner out in the garage, useless for most
things, EXCEPT, it has a full size transparency adapter and I could
use it to scan 8x10 sheet film.
Zane
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does USB-SCSI adapter exist, if yes, are they
really worth the money?
Yes, they exist. I found one on eBay just now for $40 (search for "USB SCSI").
Whether they are worth the money depends on what you consider
throwaway money for a little gamble.
Applications are somewhat limited, though and since they date back
to the late nineties, OS support and driver availability may be
issues to wrestle with.
9 Dec
9 Dec
11:57 a.m.
New subject: Scanning sheet film (was: SCSI <-> USB)
On 9 dec. 2012, at 00:45, "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
I have an ancient 300dpi UMAX scanner out in the
garage, useless for most things, EXCEPT, it has a full size transparency adapter and I
could use it to scan 8x10 sheet film.
I'd consider scanning sheet film at 300 dpi a waste of effort. You'll surely get
much better results scanning them wet on a modern, high dpi flatbed.
.tsooJ
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Joost van de Griek
<http://www.jvdg.net/>
12:12 p.m.
New subject: Scanning sheet film (was: SCSI <-> USB)
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Sent: 09 December 2012 16:58
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Subject: Scanning sheet film (was: SCSI <-> USB)
On 9 dec. 2012, at 00:45, "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com>
wrote:
I don't think so, 300 DPI is fine for many purposes and the UMAX is pretty
quick. I have a UMAX with a transparency adaptor but mine is fire wire. The
UMAX software looks for, I think, ASPI interfaces, and so long as the USB
adaptor looks like a SCSI adaptor to windows it will probably work. I think
the main problems would be getting a driver for the card..
Dave Wade G4UGM
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
I have an ancient 300dpi UMAX scanner out in the
garage,
useless for
most things, EXCEPT, it has a full size
transparency adapter and I
could use it to scan 8x10 sheet film.
I'd consider scanning sheet film at 300 dpi a waste of
effort. You'll surely get much better results scanning them
wet on a modern, high dpi flatbed.
.tsooJ
--
Wherever you go, there you are.
--
Joost van de Griek
<http://www.jvdg.net/>
12:14 p.m.
New subject: Scanning sheet film
On 12/9/2012 11:57 AM, Joost van de Griek wrote:
On 9 dec. 2012, at 00:45, "Zane H.
Healy"<healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
please explain what you mean by "scanning them wet"....
Steve
I have an ancient 300dpi UMAX scanner out in
the garage, useless for most things, EXCEPT, it has a full size transparency adapter and I
could use it to scan 8x10 sheet film.
I'd consider scanning sheet film at 300 dpi a waste of effort.
You'll surely get much better results scanning them wet on a modern, high dpi
flatbed.
.tsooJ
1:34 p.m.
New subject: Scanning sheet film
On 9 dec. 2012, at 18:14, steve shumaker <shumaker at att.net> wrote:
please explain what you mean by "scanning them
wet"....
<http://youtube.com/#/watch?v=sMnxWknF4SM>
.tsooJ
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3:11 p.m.
New subject: Scanning sheet film
On 12/9/2012 1:34 PM, Joost van de Griek wrote:
On 9 dec. 2012, at 18:14, steve shumaker<shumaker
at att.net> wrote:
the link didn't help (doesn't link to anything specific) but it did
prod
me into doing a google. interesting! Been scanning stuff at fairly
high res for years but never heard of that technique before. makes
sense though.
steve
please explain what you mean by "scanning
them wet"....
<http://youtube.com/#/watch?v=sMnxWknF4SM>
.tsooJ
4:17 p.m.
New subject: Scanning sheet film
At 3:11 PM -0500 12/9/12, steve shumaker wrote:
On 12/9/2012 1:34 PM, Joost van de Griek wrote:
Rather than wet, here is the route I plan to get once I finally
upgrade my Epson 2450. It's also part of why I'm waiting for Epson
to release what I really want. When you factor in the price of both
the scanner and the mounts I need, it will be an expensive setup.
Zane
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On 9 dec. 2012, at 18:14, steve
shumaker<shumaker at att.net> wrote:
the link didn't help (doesn't link to anything specific) but it did
prod me into doing a google. interesting! Been scanning stuff at
fairly high res for years but never heard of that technique before.
makes sense though.
steve please explain what you mean by "scanning
them wet"....
<http://youtube.com/#/watch?v=sMnxWknF4SM>
.tsooJ
10 Dec
10 Dec
3:24 a.m.
New subject: Scanning sheet film
On 9 Dec 2012, at 21:11 , steve shumaker <shumaker at att.net> wrote:
On 12/9/2012 1:34 PM, Joost van de Griek wrote:
the link didn't help (doesn't link to anything specific) but it did prod me into
doing a google. interesting! Been scanning stuff at fairly high res for years but never
heard of that technique before. makes sense though.
Sorry, Youtube's mobile site gave me a convoluted link on the iPhone, my manual
cleanup must've mangled it. I meant this:
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svdsXGqjWEg>
Point is, I wet scan directly on the flatbed, no (flimsy) film holders. Excellent results.
Not drum-scanning level results, but good enough for home scanning.
There is some experimentation involved with getting the best focus. Flipping the film and
adding or subtracting mylar sheets until the image plane is in near-perfect focus.
.tsooJ
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please
explain what you mean by "scanning them wet"....
<http://youtube.com/#/watch?v=sMnxWknF4SM>
5:24 p.m.
New subject: Scanning sheet film
On 12/10/2012 3:24 AM, Joost van de Griek wrote:
On 9 Dec 2012, at 21:11 , steve shumaker<shumaker
at att.net> wrote:
cool! Now I see what you meant.
steve
On 12/9/2012 1:34 PM, Joost van de Griek wrote:
the link didn't help (doesn't link to anything specific) but it did prod me into
doing a google. interesting! Been scanning stuff at fairly high res for years but never
heard of that technique before. makes sense though.
Sorry, Youtube's mobile site gave me a convoluted link on the iPhone, my
manual cleanup must've mangled it. I meant this:
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svdsXGqjWEg>
Point is, I wet scan directly on the flatbed, no (flimsy) film holders. Excellent
results. Not drum-scanning level results, but good enough for home scanning.
There is some experimentation involved with getting the best focus. Flipping the film and
adding or subtracting mylar sheets until the image plane is in near-perfect focus.
.tsooJ
please
explain what you mean by "scanning them wet"....
<http://youtube.com/#/watch?v=sMnxWknF4SM>
6:09 p.m.
New subject: Scanning sheet film
At 5:24 PM -0500 12/10/12, steve shumaker wrote:
On 12/10/2012 3:24 AM, Joost van de Griek wrote:
That is pretty cool, while I'm familiar with wet scanning, I've not
heard of adjusting the focus via mylar sheets.
Zane
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Sorry, Youtube's mobile site gave me a
convoluted link on the
iPhone, my manual cleanup must've mangled it. I meant this:
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svdsXGqjWEg>
Point is, I wet scan directly on the flatbed, no (flimsy) film
holders. Excellent results. Not drum-scanning level results, but
good enough for home scanning.
There is some experimentation involved with getting the best focus.
Flipping the film and adding or subtracting mylar sheets until the
image plane is in near-perfect focus.
.tsooJ
cool! Now I see what you meant.
steve 
10:26 p.m.
New subject: Scanning sheet film
At 02:24 AM 12/10/2012, Joost van de Griek wrote:
Point is, I wet scan directly on the flatbed, no
(flimsy) film holders. Excellent results. Not drum-scanning level results, but good enough
for home scanning.
I was tinkering with wet scanning this summer. I had some 100-year-old
curled silver prints my great-grandfather had made. The dark areas of
the print had gone shiny. I wet them with isopropyl, which relaxed the
paper and darkened the blacks, then scanned. It worked well.
I saw the online explanations of wet scanning but I hadn't been sufficiently
motivated to pay for the somewhat expensive fluid in this case where I
didn't need to scan negatives. What's in the fluid?
- John
9 Dec
9 Dec
12:15 p.m.
New subject: Scanning sheet film
On 12/9/2012 8:57 AM, Joost van de Griek wrote:
On 9 dec. 2012, at 00:45, "Zane H. Healy"
<healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
If you dig on epay, you can find an epson perfection v700 6400dpi 8 x
10. if you are near LA, I have one for loan if you are on the list.
Bought to scan NASA presentation slides from Boeing. Also have the film
inserts to hold film as the software will autodetect.
Just looked and they are probably 200 to 300 bucks. Way better than the
300 bucks. But if it what you have better than nothing. I'd rather
archive at a higher resolution now days. In the day 300dpi would have
been pretty large to handle, but photo quality is doable with larger
systems that are available now days.
Jim
I have an ancient 300dpi UMAX scanner out in
the garage, useless for most things, EXCEPT, it has a full size transparency adapter and I
could use it to scan 8x10 sheet film.
I'd consider scanning sheet film at 300
dpi a waste of effort. You'll surely get much better results scanning them wet on a
modern, high dpi flatbed.
.tsooJ 
3:35 p.m.
New subject: FPUIB: Scanport SQ2030 Scanner (Was: Scanning sheet film
Scanport SQ2030
300 x 600 DPI opticaal
4800? interpolated (guessed)
Parallel port, Windoze 3.1/95/NT
Twain
in box, I don't know if it was ever used
NOT RECOMMENDED FOR SCANNING 8x10 film
3:25 p.m.
New subject: Scanning sheet film (was: SCSI <-> USB)
> I have an ancient 300dpi UMAX scanner out in the
garage, useless for
> most things, EXCEPT, it has a full size transparency adapter and I
> could use it to scan 8x10 sheet film.
On Sun, 9 Dec 2012, Joost van de Griek
wrote:
I'd consider scanning sheet film at 300 dpi a
waste of effort. You'll
surely get much better results scanning them wet on a modern, high dpi
flatbed.
Using high resolution (8x10) to produce very low resolution
proof-sheets, snapshots, or web images?
4:13 p.m.
New subject: Scanning sheet film (was: SCSI <-> USB)
At 12:25 PM -0800 12/9/12, Fred Cisin wrote:
Exactly, proof sheets and web images. Also 300dpi would be enough to
create masks for contact printing.
I need a modern Epson V750-M scanner, BUT, I've been waiting for
Epson to upgrade it, the V700/V750-M are the only scanners in the
line that haven't been upgraded to an LED lightsource.
I've been limping by with an Epson 2450, but it can only handle up to
4x5 film, and I've started shooting 8x10.
For anything other than proofs and web usage, I'll likely pay the
$$$'s to get the film scanned professionally in a drum scanner. In
fact once I get a good wide angle lens for my 8x10 Deardorff, I'll
definitely do this, as digital camera's can't handle a couple
photographs I need to take for a project. The worst part is I'll
have to take them on colour film, and then convert them to B&W on the
computer to achieve consistency with the rest of the project.
Zane
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> I have
an ancient 300dpi UMAX scanner out in the garage, useless for
> most things, EXCEPT, it has a full size transparency adapter and I
> could use it to scan 8x10 sheet film.
On Sun, 9 Dec 2012, Joost van de Griek
wrote:
I'd consider scanning sheet film at 300 dpi
a waste of effort. You'll
surely get much better results scanning them wet on a modern, high dpi
flatbed.
Using high resolution (8x10) to produce very low resolution
proof-sheets, snapshots, or web images?
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