Sorry, that was a poorly worded direct comparison to the PC WinTel world. Having done Mac and PC hardware repair for the last don't know how long, I can tell you that PCs break down 10x more often than a Mac. Hardware wise that is. Software wise, well, that isn't fair... Windows just isn't up to the task of being compared to anything. Alas, I forgot what list I was on, and many (if not most) of the computers applicable to this list would blow Apple stuff out of the water in terms of reliability in hardware AND software. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>