Yep, and like everyone else here probably: I worked hard to find them all. And then I worked hard to get some free time to play with it all, and I did, and have been so there isn't much actually lost beyond the kinesthetics and glow. But I still have (many) more computers that will get maybe now more of my attention and I sure can use the money. Thanks for the sympathy, but dont let your posessions become your master. Thanks - Mike: dogas(a)leading.net