28 Nov
2006
28 Nov
'06
11:44 a.m.
While attempting to restore some files from a 4mm tape, using an HP
SureStore Tape 2000 drive, something happened to me for the first
time: the drive made a strange moaning sound then stopped reading the
tape. Not only did the drive stop reading the tape, but it had begun
eating the tape as well, nearly chewing all the way through it on one
spot.
I'm guessing that this is a problem which, if not affecting others
yet, will soon start affecting others who are relying upon such drives
for backing up and restoring critical data. Fortunately, I'd recently
switched to using DLT IV drives for backups, but a few files that I
wanted to restore were still on other tapes.
Does anyone know where rubber parts for these drives, like rollers,
can can be purchased, so that others with these drives can replace
them and avoid what I experienced? I should have realized that
something was about to go wrong with internal parts as well when one
of the drive's rubber feet began to stick to the metal chassis it was
resting upon.
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28 Nov
28 Nov
12:49 p.m.
From: "R. D. Davis"
While attempting to restore some files from a 4mm
tape, using an HP
SureStore Tape 2000 drive, something happened to me for the first
time: the drive made a strange moaning sound then stopped reading the
tape. Not only did the drive stop reading the tape, but it had begun
eating the tape as well, nearly chewing all the way through it on one
spot.
Some years ago, I had to read a DDS-2 tape on (IIRC) a C1533 drive. New.
The first read went ok, but when I had to read it again, the tape was
wrapped around one of the motors. This customer was not very pleased, as it
was part of a criminal investigation.
Nico
1:48 p.m.
At 11:44 AM -0500 11/28/06, R. D. Davis wrote:
While attempting to restore some files from a 4mm tape,
using an HP
SureStore Tape 2000 drive, something happened to me for the first
time: the drive made a strange moaning sound then stopped reading the
tape. Not only did the drive stop reading the tape, but it had begun
eating the tape as well, nearly chewing all the way through it on one
spot.
I'm guessing that this is a problem which, if not affecting others
yet, will soon start affecting others who are relying upon such drives
for backing up and restoring critical data. Fortunately, I'd recently
switched to using DLT IV drives for backups, but a few files that I
wanted to restore were still on other tapes.
Does anyone know where rubber parts for these drives, like rollers,
can can be purchased, so that others with these drives can replace
them and avoid what I experienced? I should have realized that
something was about to go wrong with internal parts as well when one
of the drive's rubber feet began to stick to the metal chassis it was
resting upon.
--
R. D. Davis 410-744-4900 Beware & halt the National Animal ID System (NAIS)!
www.rddavis.org http://nonais.org http://www.libertyark.org
www.danglingspiders.com http://www.rddavis.org/equitation/freedom-vs-id.html
Dangling Spiders Electronic Music Studio http://www.stopanimalid.org
I think you will be able to make replacement rollers from either
typewriters, fax machine, or photocopier spare parts. These all use
similar rubber drives. It will be 'fun' figuring out what you need,
but at least the parts will be new and good for ten to twenty years.
Keep spares in tightly sealed plastic bags - in our "Time Travel
Warehouse" parts department (a huge parts supply from an arcade
distributor that was closed and stored from 1982) we found that drive
rollers, etc that were sealed in small plastic bags are STILL
flexible after being tucked away for 25+ years!
John :-#)#
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5:06 p.m.
John Robertson wrote:
Keep spares in tightly sealed plastic bags - in our
"Time Travel
Warehouse" parts department (a huge parts supply from an arcade
distributor that was closed and stored from 1982) we found that drive
rollers, etc that were sealed in small plastic bags are STILL flexible
after being tucked away for 25+ years!
Better check for lost children too...Their quarters may have run out by now! :)
Did that include pinball games too?
John :-#)#
5:52 p.m.
At 3:06 PM -0700 11/28/06, woodelf wrote:
John Robertson wrote:
Yes there were NOS pinball games still packed in their factory boxes.
I post on the newsgroup rec.games.pinball about them...
John :-#)#
flippers.com
Keep spares in tightly sealed plastic bags - in
our "Time Travel
Warehouse" parts department (a huge parts supply from an arcade
distributor that was closed and stored from 1982) we found that
drive rollers, etc that were sealed in small plastic bags are STILL
flexible after being tucked away for 25+ years!
Better check for lost children too...Their quarters may have run out
by now! :)
Did that include pinball games too? 
29 Nov
29 Nov
2:32 a.m.
John Robertson wrote:
I bought a set of mil spec
test leads that were sealed in 1984, fluke
with all the extras. I was most impressed by the fact that the rubber
bands were still pliable and not decomposed after 22 years.
The material was a metalized looking paper that required scissors to
open. I guess you don't have to unseal test leads while you are under
fire w/o tools, but some things that may be packed in the same material
be inconvenient w/o a way to open it. I guess you can always figure a
soldier will have a knife handy though.
I own a Documation 200 with goo for rollers if this discussion leads to
a source of rollers to fix it. I have an M-1000 that I have not fired
up till I can figure out whether the rollers are good. Since it was in
service and not stored up to 12 months ago, I have higher hopes for it
however.
Jim
Keep spares in
tightly sealed plastic bags - in our "Time Travel
Warehouse" parts department (a huge parts supply from an arcade
distributor that was closed and stored from 1982) we found that drive
rollers, etc that were sealed in small plastic bags are STILL
flexible after being tucked away for 25+ years!
3:08 a.m.
jim stephens wrote:
I own a Documation 200 with goo for rollers if this
discussion leads to
a source of rollers to fix it. I have an M-1000 that I have not fired
up till I can figure out whether the rollers are good. Since it was in
service and not stored up to 12 months ago, I have higher hopes for it
however.
It does seem to be that not running the machines causes more problems
than anything else. I wonder why this should be?
As an aside, a brand new set of tyres on a car that's not run over the
winter will be all cracked and useless by spring, but an identical set
of tyres on a similar car that's used as a "winter hack" will be perfect
(if a little worn). Go on, ask me how I know...
Gordon.
28 Nov
28 Nov
1:56 p.m.
On 28/11/06 16:44, "R. D. Davis" <rdd at rddavis.org> wrote:
Does anyone know where rubber parts for these drives,
like rollers,
can can be purchased, so that others with these drives can replace
them and avoid what I experienced? I should have realized that
something was about to go wrong with internal parts as well when one
of the drive's rubber feet began to stick to the metal chassis it was
resting upon.
We're beginning to see failures in a lot of DEC TLZ06/07 units; fortunately
they can be replaced with TLZ09/10 drives. If a customer needs something
repaired we can only resort to ebay and/or our collection of 2nd user
brokers because trying to track down individual parts is too expensive,
timewise.
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