I didn't mean to imply that I thought it was.. I was laughing about what Fred said the tombstone would say for someone killed by their 11/70.. My apologies if you thought I was laughing about that... I agree with you fully about the danger of hanta virus... Any time you are around rodent excrement, especially in large quantities, you can't be too careful... That's why I have thrown out a few items I've gotten over the years; I figured the potential health hazard to myself was not worth it... A good example would be the Sinclair ZX-81 I got which was filled with cockroaches! YUCK! What sort of protection do you think would be adequate for John when he cleans the VAX? I'd almost want to recommend some kind of serious respirator-type mask, like the ones used when you do things like paint a car, or work with fiberglass, etc. But I definetly agree you should, bare minimum, wear a face mask, and gloves as well... Will J _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp