Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:35:44 -0400 From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> Subject: Re: GET LAMP is here On 8/11/10 3:12 PM, MikeS wrote: Oh, never once have I asserted that. Again the fanboys choose to twist my words in an effort to marginalize any statement disparaging Windows. This isn't about ME, it's about Microsoft fanboys who pipe up and deny the existence of the troubles that damn near everyone has with that product line. This doesn't make ME any better, either in reality or in my own mind. So, envision yourself as someone who has personally cared very much for cars and car technology all your life, has seen such fads come and go, and has a fiscal and professional responsibility to use and sell what works. Now, if you knew of a group of near-religious devotees to a particular brand of car that was widely known to regularly catch fire while driving down the street in nearly all situations, so blind in their devotion that they loudly assert that these failures don't exist when the whole world sees them, how would you react? I poke fun at the Microsoft-can-do-no-wrong crowd (which I was doing at the start of this thread, because Will Donzelli amusingly suggested that UNIX guys don't get laid) because they're very entertaining when they keep pointing at the blue sky screaming that it's red, over and over and over again, ad infinitum, ad nausem. So, no, this is not about me, and I'm sorry, I'm not going to allow you to label it as such. I'm trying to explain myself here, not justify my position...I have no need to do the latter, while doing the former seems necessary when people try to dismiss an argument by restating it incorrectly. In the interest of on-topicness (topicicity?) I will drop this thread if you guys will. I like and respect most everyone here, and I don't really enjoy pooping in my own yard. I regret that this has gone this far, but I could not let certain statements stand. -Dave ------------ <snip> <snip> You really are tooooo funny... You talk about "fanboys" (presumably a derogatory term that includes Richard and me) twisting your words? I think Richard (and I) just said that we're getting a little tired of your endless "Windows is crap" remarks; I didn't hear anyone say that Microsoft can do no wrong, that there aren't any problems with the product line (as there are with pretty well any software), or even that the sky is blue (or red). To use your analogy, if for whatever reason I owned one of those cars you mentioned and had perhaps even made the necessary modifications to prevent it from catching fire, I'd also get pretty tired of your telling me what a PoS it is every time you saw me driving it. What I do read over and over again, ad infinitum, ad nauseam, are your puerile criticisms of MS and dismissive insults of anyone who suggests that their products are perhaps not the complete and total PoS that you keep insisting, not to mention your recurring mention of those 'converts' whom you've shown the true and only way to the light... ;-) Now that *does* sound like a fanboy... Yeah, actually it is, at least it's about these tiresome posts and insults of yours. But it's all in fun, right? mike