3 May
2013
3 May
'13
11:54 a.m.
This looks like an easy way to get started.
<http://papilio.cc/index.php?n=Papilio.LogicStartMegaWing>
<http://papilio.cc/uploads/Papilio/IntroToSpartanFPGABook.pdf>
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1:06 p.m.
Am 03.05.2013 20:54, schrieb Richard:
This looks like an easy way to get started.
<http://papilio.cc/index.php?n=Papilio.LogicStartMegaWing>
<http://papilio.cc/uploads/Papilio/IntroToSpartanFPGABook.pdf>
Nice board.
But I don't know if the FT2232 JTAG solution works under Linux. And the JTAG
connector on the board is blocked... With that in his "pure Windows mind" one
could have much fun with the board :-)
Digilent has nice FPGA boards as well: http://www.digilentinc.com
My favorite board is still the old S3-Board. I have two of them.
I also have two S3E boards and a (non Digilent) Virtex-4P board. But I still
like the S3 Board most for everyday playing.
Kind regards
Philipp
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1:54 p.m.
On May 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Philipp Hachtmann <hachti at hachti.de> wrote:
Am 03.05.2013 20:54, schrieb Richard:
It absolutely SHOULD (which doesn't mean that it does) work using
OpenOCD. That probably doesn't mesh nicely with vendor-supplied
JTAG tools, though I know at least Xilinx's iMPACT tool is somewhat
extensible because Digilent has an extension for it. If it works
through OpenOCD, though, you should at least be able to make the
Xilinx tools spit out something that you can program in there that
way. I've never programmed FPGAs using OpenOCD, but I certainly
see a non-zero amount of related traffic on their development
mailing list about it.
- Dave
This looks like an easy way to get started.
<http://papilio.cc/index.php?n=Papilio.LogicStartMegaWing>
<http://papilio.cc/uploads/Papilio/IntroToSpartanFPGABook.pdf>
Nice board.
But I don't know if the FT2232 JTAG solution works under Linux. And the JTAG
connector on the board is blocked... With that in his "pure Windows mind" one
could have much fun with the board :-) 
3:24 p.m.
On Fri, 3 May 2013, David Riley wrote:
OpenOCD. That probably doesn't mesh nicely with
vendor-supplied
Shouldn't that be OpenCDO?
g.
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4:18 p.m.
On May 3, 2013, at 18:24, geneb <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:
On Fri, 3 May 2013, David Riley wrote:
I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but in case not, no. OCD in
this case stands for On Chip Debugger. It originated as an ARM-
only project, but now supports quite a few architectures as well
as generic JTAG manipulation.
- Dave
OpenOCD. That probably doesn't mesh nicely
with vendor-supplied
Shouldn't that be OpenCDO? 
4:25 p.m.
New subject: [cctalk] Re: Speaking of FPGAs...
On 05/03/2013 07:18 PM, David Riley wrote:
I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but in case not, no. OCD in
this case stands for On Chip Debugger. It originated as an ARM-
only project, but now supports quite a few architectures as well
as generic JTAG manipulation.
I use it for my ARM work with an FTDI-based Olimex JTAG dongle. It works
great under OS X and Linux.
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OpenOCD. That probably doesn't mesh nicely with
vendor-supplied
Shouldn't that be OpenCDO?
4 May
4 May
6:37 a.m.
On Fri, 3 May 2013, David Riley wrote:
On May 3, 2013, at 18:24, geneb <geneb at
deltasoft.com> wrote:
Yes, it was a joke. -->
http://paizo.com/image/product/catalog/OWD/OWD15005_500.jpeg
(Well _I_ thought it was funny....)
:)
g.
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On Fri, 3 May 2013, David Riley wrote:
I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but in case not, no. OCD in
this case stands for On Chip Debugger. It originated as an ARM-
only project, but now supports quite a few architectures as well
as generic JTAG manipulation.
OpenOCD. That probably doesn't mesh nicely
with vendor-supplied
Shouldn't that be OpenCDO? 
11:54 a.m.
Yes, it was a joke. -->
http://paizo.com/image/product/catalog/OWD/OWD15005_500.jpeg
(Well _I_ thought it was funny....)
:)
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(Gene chooses)
Ha ha ha.
:P
12:43 p.m.
On 5/4/2013 9:37 AM, geneb wrote:
Yes, it was a joke. -->
http://paizo.com/image/product/catalog/OWD/OWD15005_500.jpeg
(Well _I_ thought it was funny....)
:)
Hahaha.
Keith
3 May
3 May
8:20 p.m.
In article <518418D0.8030705 at hachti.de>,
Philipp Hachtmann <hachti at hachti.de> writes:
Am 03.05.2013 20:54, schrieb Richard:
What I liked about this one is that they've got a modified Arduino IDE
to program to it (I think that's only for the softcore processor on
the FPGA, though) and they have a collection of daughter boards they
call "wings" for quickly adding certain kinds of functionality.
The Logic Start MegaWing is kind of like those old Heathkit ET
trainers and there is a couple of megawings dedicated to making your
own arcade game. There are a number of mini wings too.
SparkFun sells the 500K gate version:
<https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11158>
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This looks like an easy way to get started.
<http://papilio.cc/index.php?n=Papilio.LogicStartMegaWing>
<http://papilio.cc/uploads/Papilio/IntroToSpartanFPGABook.pdf>
Nice board.
8:24 p.m.
On 5/3/2013 4:06 PM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote:
Digilent has nice FPGA boards as well:
http://www.digilentinc.com
My favorite board is still the old S3-Board. I have two of them.
I also have two S3E boards and a (non Digilent) Virtex-4P board. But I
still like the S3 Board most for everyday playing.
Second the Digilent recommendation. I also have an S3E board.
I ALMOST recommended Anthony Burch "BurchED" education videos from
Australia, except when I googled I couldn't find it, and it appears to
since have gone offline.
It's a shame because they were good for beginners.
Keith
9:24 p.m.
On 5/3/2013 8:24 PM, Keith Monahan wrote:
Anthony Burch "BurchED"
http://web.archive.org/web/20070704151655/http://www.burched.com/
last strong samples were in 2007.
For support, email Tony Burch at tony at burched.com.au
<mailto:tony at burched.com.au>
Maybe he might still take email, the domain is just not serving up
anything and had a response 302 (whatever that is) in 2011 to a crawl
request.
Jim
9:30 p.m.
On 4 May 2013, at 00:24, "Jim Stephens" <jws at jwsss.com> wrote:
On 5/3/2013 8:24 PM, Keith Monahan wrote:
Isn't 302 moved permanently? It's either moved temporarily or permanently. I
forget which.
Anthony Burch "BurchED"
http://web.archive.org/web/20070704151655/http://www.burched.com/
last strong samples were in 2007.
For support, email Tony Burch at tony at burched.com.au <mailto:tony at
burched.com.au>
Maybe he might still take email, the domain is just not serving up anything and had a
response 302 (whatever that is) in 2011 to a crawl request.
Jim
9:43 p.m.
On 5/4/2013 12:24 AM, Jim Stephens wrote:
On 5/3/2013 8:24 PM, Keith Monahan wrote:
Thanks,
I did that almost simultaneously when posting
here....anthony at burched.com bounced, which was also a previously used
proper address.
Keith
Anthony Burch "BurchED"
http://web.archive.org/web/20070704151655/http://www.burched.com/
last strong samples were in 2007.
For support, email Tony Burch at tony at burched.com.au
<mailto:tony at burched.com.au>
Maybe he might still take email, the domain is just not serving up
anything and had a response 302 (whatever that is) in 2011 to a crawl
request.
Jim 
4 May
4 May
5:06 a.m.
On Fri, 3 May 2013, Keith Monahan wrote:
On 5/3/2013 4:06 PM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote:
You bet. I had subscribed to his web courses, but they disappeared before
I had a chance to work my way through. That's what I get for
procrastination. If he could no longer afford the site, the gentlemanly
thing to do would have been to release them for archival purposes.
Another strong point in favor of the opensource philosophy.
Steve
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Digilent has nice FPGA boards as well:
http://www.digilentinc.com
My favorite board is still the old S3-Board. I have two of them.
I also have two S3E boards and a (non Digilent) Virtex-4P board. But I
still like the S3 Board most for everyday playing.
Second the Digilent recommendation. I also have an S3E board.
I ALMOST recommended Anthony Burch "BurchED" education videos from Australia,
except when I googled I couldn't find it, and it appears to since have gone
offline.
It's a shame because they were good for beginners. 
12:39 a.m.
On Fri, 03 May 2013 22:06:40 +0200
Philipp Hachtmann <hachti at hachti.de> wrote:
But I don't know if the FT2232 JTAG solution works
under Linux.
Usually FT2232 JTAG adapters work quite well on Linux.
If you jump some links you get to the download page of the
"FPGA - Papilio Loader"
http://gadgetforge.gadgetfactory.net/gf/project/butterflyloader/
which redirects to you to GIThub where you can find:
https://github.com/GadgetFactory/Papilio-Loader/blob/master/xc3sprog/trunk/…
that states:
-----
To build for the Papilio board on linux:
git clone https://github.com/GadgetFactory/Papilio-Loader.git
apt-get install cmake
mkdir build; cd build; cmake ..; make
To load a bit file to FPGA on the Papilio board
./xc3sprog -c papilio ../../../Helper_App/Quickstart-Papilio_One_500K-v1.5.bit -v
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Looks like everything is there to play it on Linux.
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3 May
4:38 p.m.
On 5/3/2013 11:54 AM, Richard wrote:
This looks like an easy way to get started.
<http://papilio.cc/index.php?n=Papilio.LogicStartMegaWing>
<http://papilio.cc/uploads/Papilio/IntroToSpartanFPGABook.pdf>
That board has
front panel written all over it. I would think one could
use it for the blinking lights and switches and use another board w/o
all the flash for the system. And you'd have an extra console port,
etc., to boot.
thanks
Jim
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