18 Dec
2014
18 Dec
'14
1:04 p.m.
From: Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com>
If your browser doesn't support FTP, use regular
FTP as follows:
ftp bickleywest.com
Err:
ana-3>ftp bickleywest.com
ftp: bickleywest.com: Temporary failure in name resolution
ftp> exit
ana-3>host bickleywest.com
;; connection timed out; trying next origin
Host bickleywest.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
ana-3>
Tried from another host, a long way away, using a different DNS resolver,
got the same result - could not resolve name.
(Sorry about the broadcast reply, all - but notice his email address... :-)
Noel
18 Dec
18 Dec
5:09 p.m.
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 16:04:49 -0500 (EST)
jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) wrote:
The problem was with my ISP. They had a denial of service attack on
their DNS which they were ultimately able to mitigate (took them about
1.5 hrs.). Should be OK now...
Cheers,
Lyle
--
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
From: Lyle
Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com>
If your browser doesn't support FTP, use
regular FTP as follows:
ftp bickleywest.com
Err:
ana-3>ftp bickleywest.com
ftp: bickleywest.com: Temporary failure in name resolution
ftp> exit
ana-3>host bickleywest.com
;; connection timed out; trying next origin
Host bickleywest.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
ana-3>
Tried from another host, a long way away, using a different DNS
resolver, got the same result - could not resolve name.
(Sorry about the broadcast reply, all - but notice his email
address... :-) 
5:32 p.m.
ftp bickleywest.com
[various people get DNS
failures] 
6:40 p.m.
On 12/18/2014 5:32 PM, Mouse wrote:
The problem was with my
ISP. They had a denial of service attack on
their DNS [...] Ew. Glad they did manage to pallate it.
But now....
[Sparkle] 194> ftp bickleywest.com:/pdp1134/KK11-A.pdf
Connected to bickleywest.com.
220 bickleywest.com FTP server (Version wu-2.6.2(1) Thu Jun 23 13:09:59
IDT 2005) ready.
331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
200 Type set to I.
550 Permission denied on server. You are restricted to your account.
221-You have transferred 0 bytes in 0 files.
221-Total traffic for this session was 462 bytes in 0 transfers.
221-Thank you for using the FTP service on bickleywest.com.
221 Goodbye.
[Sparkle] 195>
I'm able to click it on a windows xp / thunderbird, and it comes up in a
file browser windows. I just copy it from that window to a file, and done.
I didn't go thru a command line client, but there are always a multitude
of proxy / port (firewall) / passive issues with FTP that can occur.
Many of the tools seem to try all the options and find one that works.
BTW when I have to, I use filezilla to get to most sites. I almost
never mess with command line FTP if I can avoid it.
Jim
ftp
bickleywest.com
[various people get DNS failures] 
20 Dec
20 Dec
8:13 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim s" <jwsmail at jwsss.com>
To: <General at classiccmp.org>; "Discussion at classiccmp.org:On-Topic and
Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: PDP-11/34A cache
I didn't go thru a command line client, but there
are always a multitude
of proxy / port (firewall) / passive issues with FTP that can occur.
Many of the tools seem to try all the options and find one that works.
BTW when I have to, I use filezilla to get to most sites. I almost
never mess with command line FTP if I can avoid it.
Jim
I actually enjoy command line FTP, but some sites (certainly the one hosting
my website) require secure FTP now (FTPS), so I was forced to download
software to transfer files on to my own site (the sites normal tools have an
upload limit of 5MB!).
So when transferring large files (or for quick FTP/FTPS use) I now use
FTPrush. It's quick and easy to use (once everything is configured
correctly) and works on Windows 2000 :)
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
18 Dec
18 Dec
9:19 p.m.
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:32:07 -0500 (EST)
Mouse <mouse at Rodents-Montreal.ORG> wrote:
The problem was with my
ISP. They had a denial of service attack on
their DNS [...]
Ew. Glad they did manage to pallate it.
But now....
[Sparkle] 194> ftp bickleywest.com:/pdp1134/KK11-A.pdf
Connected to bickleywest.com.
220 bickleywest.com FTP server (Version wu-2.6.2(1) Thu Jun 23
13:09:59 IDT 2005) ready.
331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
200 Type set to I.
550 Permission denied on server. You are restricted to your account.
221-You have transferred 0 bytes in 0 files.
221-Total traffic for this session was 462 bytes in 0 transfers.
221-Thank you for using the FTP service on bickleywest.com.
221 Goodbye.
Please try it as I suggested (I tried it on multiple computers and it
worked OK every time using multiple browsers and standard FTP):
Use a browser: Chrome, Firefox and Opera are known to work.
Microsoft IE may not as some versions do NOT support FTP:
ftp://bickleywest.com/PDP1134
Click on file to download, save link as...
If for some reason your browser doesn't work,
USE FTP EXACTLY AS FOLLOWS:
ftp bickleywest.com
Name: anonymous
Password: your email address
cd pdp1134
get KK11-A.pdf
bye
Regards,
Lyle
--
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
ftp
bickleywest.com
[various people get DNS failures] 
11:53 p.m.
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Lyle Bickley <lbickley at bickleywest.com> wrote:
Please try it as I suggested (I tried it on multiple
computers and it
worked OK every time using multiple browsers and standard FTP):
Use a browser: Chrome, Firefox and Opera are known to work.
Microsoft IE may not as some versions do NOT support FTP:
ftp://bickleywest.com/PDP1134
Click on file to download, save link as...
Needs to be lower case. From your original email:
ftp://bickleywest.com/pdp1134
19 Dec
19 Dec
12:03 a.m.
If anyone still has problems, get it here:
http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/slask/KK11-A.pdf
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 12:53:22AM -0700, Eric Smith wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Lyle Bickley
<lbickley at bickleywest.com> wrote:
Please try it as I suggested (I tried it on
multiple computers and it
worked OK every time using multiple browsers and standard FTP):
Use a browser: Chrome, Firefox and Opera are known to work.
Microsoft IE may not as some versions do NOT support FTP:
ftp://bickleywest.com/PDP1134
Click on file to download, save link as...
Needs to be lower case. From your original email:
ftp://bickleywest.com/pdp1134
6:58 a.m.
> [Sparkle] 194> ftp
bickleywest.com:/pdp1134/KK11-A.pdf
[...]
> 550 Permission denied on server. You are
restricted to your account.
Please try it as I suggested (I tried it on multiple
computers and it
worked OK every time using multiple browsers and standard FTP):
Use a browser:
If your FTP server doesn't work except when the client is embedded in a
Web browser, something is seriously broken and it is not supporting
standard FTP.
If for some reason your browser doesn't work,
When I want to use the Web (which is relatively rare), I use a Web
browser. When I want to FTP, I use an FTP client. I do not confuse
the two.
I tried it anyway. I get that it is "Unable to access document".
Snooping the traffic reveals that it actually has much the same problem
I unwittingly had - and, on checking, I find it is not 1738-compliant,
so I am right to distrust FTP clients glued onto the side of Web
browsers.
cd pdp1134
This works. Your FTP server is, while not actually non-compliant,
unusual in that / for anonymous users is not the root of the anonymous
directory. The FTP fetch I tried was sending "CWD /pdp1134"; lynx was
sending "RETR /pdp1134". "ftp bickleywest.com:pdp1134/KK11-A.pdf"
works.
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